{"id":1801,"date":"2021-09-24T10:23:52","date_gmt":"2021-09-24T14:23:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/?p=1801"},"modified":"2021-09-24T18:53:59","modified_gmt":"2021-09-24T22:53:59","slug":"needed-definitions-discernment-for-christian-ministry-doctrine-trainers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/?p=1801","title":{"rendered":"WAS HE ALWAYS &#8220;SWEET INFANT&#8221; JESUS?&#8221; +DISCERNMENT FOR CHRISTIAN MINISTRY DOCTRINE  TRAINERS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1802\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-24-at-9.54.43-AM-300x145.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"445\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>THIS\u00a0 OFFICE MAVEN OF APOSTOLIC THEOLOGY<\/strong>, finds that for the last 25 TV MEDIA Christian Ministry OFFICE producing mega, multicultural YEARS that the basic &#8220;got wonderfully saved, and then listens to ONLY ONE &#8220;TV FAMOUS ONGOING MINISTRY &#8221; TRAINING SPIRITUAL KIND&#8221;..needs a bit of TRAINING in the fine tuning..<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><strong>HERE&#8217;S WHY<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><strong>CHOSEN TO BE AN EMBED NOT ELEVATED ,<\/strong> ELITE, FAMOUS, NOR\u00a0 SURROUNDED BY HANDLERS&#8230;BIG STAFF, VAST WANNABE CROWDS.. (and SURELY Godly contented, goodly satisfied&#8230;meaning\u00a0 all this long,\u00a0 loving&#8230;Deep Grass Roots embedded..Real LIFE)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>PS STEM from a long line of<\/strong> unsung deep grass roots HEALTHY, CARING and NON WOULD BE FAMOUS\u00a0 &#8216;mini office ministers.&#8221; (I came from a line of ministry first responders, EORR one and all..not a racist bigoted one among any of them (by GOD&#8217;S AMAZING GRACE)&#8230;plus&#8230;Taveau Church, SC historical landmark)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong> God CALLED this me to immerse in GRASS ROOTS<\/strong>, attending many congregations, during the increase of TV MEDIA MINISTRY ..age 24 until right this now. I have also had my OWN regional, multicultural diverse office sr ministry. But mainly, during the last 20 media influenced &#8220;man pleasing&#8221; and &#8220;nouveau riche&#8221; experience MEGA and many MICRO USA wide God Sent YEARS I now find MANY alarming missing TRAINING POINTS (REASON FOR MENTIONING: 1) the unwisely poorly reflect on JESUS FOLLOWING, wholesome FELLOWSHIPS and on the the GOOD PURE HEARTED as well as MANY MATURE HEALTHY NON ELITE CHRISTIAN BORN AGAIN LEADER who &#8216;resemble&#8217; them.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ADD to this ..(and FYI USA NATION..this well prior to Covid)..the statistics s<\/strong>howing CHRISTIAN CHURCH DECLINE and RISE in atheists..MANY REPORTS ON mega thousands of MILLENNIALS, departing completely FROM FOLLOWING CHRIST (and the Children surely departing with each of them).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>SO in light of all this..I wax more boldly.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1787\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-300x144.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"444\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>THUS THE MAVEN OF THEOLOGY SUBMITS:<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1802\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-24-at-9.54.43-AM-300x145.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"445\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1>&#8220;JESUS CHRIST LIVES, LOVES, REPROVES,<\/h1>\n<h1>REPRIEVES**&#8221;<\/h1>\n<h3><strong>**Akin to Apostle Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16-17<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3811\" src=\"https:\/\/www.purepropheticprinciples.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-24-at-6.48.20-PM-300x71.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"471\" \/><br \/>\n(C)2021 Taveau D&#8217;Arcy All copyrights reserved under international copyright laws<\/p>\n<p><strong>A SUBMITTED FINE POINTS EQUIPPING SELAH<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>WONDERING: DID JESUS CHRIST ALWAYS (ONLY, ALWAYS..) ACT LIKE &#8220;THE SWEET BABY JESUS?&#8221;<\/h3>\n<h3>This is my own opinion:<\/h3>\n<p><strong>\u00a0SURELY,, even\u00a0 up into His adulthood..most assuredly&#8230; Jesus Christ\u00a0 probably WANTED\u00a0 to ONLY &#8220;turn the other cheek, walk the extra mile&#8221;<\/strong> ..however, He eventually grew up and witnessed, experienced REAL AREA LIFE..<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>THEREFORE.\u00a0while I feel sure that HE always modeled &#8220;<\/strong>UNCONDITIONAL FORGIVENESS&#8221;..still He was mentioned as (at least ) 3 THREE TIMES openly &#8220;reprimanding&#8221; even OPENLY confronting ..as in publicly\u00a0 &#8220;rebuking &#8220;the Sr Office, Overseer Pharisee\u00a0 Top Ministers!)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1302\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screen-Shot-2021-05-11-at-1.00.04-PM-300x298.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"598\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>MATTHEW 7:21 &#8220;Many will say Lord Lord&#8230;&#8221;<\/h3>\n<h3>MATTHEW 21 &#8220;Jesus tosses over the temple mammon chasers select tables&#8221;<\/h3>\n<h3>ALL OF MATTHEW 23 the WHOLE CHAPTER in red letters. Minister Jesus Christ UP FRONT PUBLICLY addresses&#8230;(not hiding, rumoring, minister back biting) BUT OUT &#8220;unashamedly&#8221; in a RIGHTEOUS PROPHETIC MATURE method&#8230;PUBLICLY before the multitudes and his disciples.***<\/h3>\n<p><em><strong>*** WAIT, HOLD ON&#8230;as some .. Reactionary Juvenile Religious\u00a0 Wacko&#8230; could feel &#8220;God Called&#8221; to do this TO NON CHRISTIANS, UNBELIEVERS..MEANING EVEN TO.MANY OTHER\u00a0 FAITHS&#8230;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>BUT&#8230;LETS&#8217;S STOP ALL OF THAT RIGHT HERE AND ASSESS&#8230; For as we deeply research JESUS CHRIST &#8230;we take note that JESUS NEVER OPENLY, PUBLICLY CONFRONTED, OPENLY REBUKED&#8230; ANY ONE\u00a0 (!!) ANYONE&#8230;BUT THE ENRICHED IMPURE PHARISEES OF HIS OWN FATHER&#8217;S SR MINISTRY\u00a0 HOUSE.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1787\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-300x144.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"444\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>APOSTLE T OFFICE\u00a0 MENTORS: WE SHOULD PRACTICE A MODICUM OF DIGNITY ALSO MINISTRY LEADER &#8220;REAL RESPECT&#8221;&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>PERSONALLY (one MAJOR pet peeve)&#8230;I\u00a0 will also call attention to the fact ..although JESUS CHRIST was a office prophet SEER, HE did not secretly run to all of His disciples and fellow minister ACCUSE. FORTHRIGHT UP FRONT MATURE MANLY REAL LIFE JESUS was not a moral chief wuss. Furthermore God&#8217;s ETERNAL SAVIOR would not bend so low as to ministry fault find. He was assured in His God Graced Noble Office.and thus had no need to undermine them, tale bear, see demons on them..but\u00a0 LEADER\u00a0 OUT IN THE OPEN UP FRONT &#8220;BUSY BODY CONFRONTED.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>ALSO JC practiced senior ministry\u00a0 office dignity.. Personal Self Government, (self control) &#8230;so Messiah Christ did not curse, swear, name holy office persons by their Names..nor use weapons&#8230;violence, bullying, word curses&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>WE NEED TO\u00a0 NOTICE: that when Jesus tossed over the temple money makers tables, He did not orchestrate His are disciples to stand outside the temple and harass, abusively name call..to\u00a0 cat call the TEMPLE OFFICES as they walked in to go to overseer work.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1476\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Screen-Shot-2021-07-03-at-2.08.31-PM-300x208.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"208\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Screen-Shot-2021-07-03-at-2.08.31-PM-300x208.png 300w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Screen-Shot-2021-07-03-at-2.08.31-PM-768x534.png 768w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/07\/Screen-Shot-2021-07-03-at-2.08.31-PM.png 944w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3>THEREBY WE REALIZED\u00a0 THAT JESUS GREW UP, HUMANNED UP..and when His Father instructed Him to do so, HE STOOD UP.<\/h3>\n<h3>Thus, SAVIOR JESUS\u00a0 did not fully remain the SWEET DOCILE BABY IN THE MANGER.\u00a0 &#8220;Jesus increased in wisdom, stature and in favor with God and man&#8221; But at age 12 He confounded the area top elders with His perceptive real knowledge and deep wise understanding.&#8221;<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>However, as CHRIST matured, He lost his earthly father Joseph.<\/strong> And He surely witnessed area suffering, systemic slavery, Roman Rule, and deep abuse, poverty, He even eventually understood many of the machinations of the local Hebrew Temple..<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>SOON the young office prophet messiah minister Christ inner noted<\/strong>\u00a0 \u00a0the deep Pharisee self important, ever mammon centric elite monetary unyielding leader SYSTEM&#8230;..and noted it&#8217;s repeated big injustices. And the compassionate Savior repeatedly took note ..seer watching how\u00a0 how often it used, accused, withstood and biased against as well as produced needless guilt and unjust harm on\u00a0 MANY innocent hurting true persons.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Mature\u00a0 JESUS CHRIST surely recalled God&#8217;s commanded<\/strong> Sabbath Blessing (see below ISAIAH 56:7) ASSESSED as &#8220;Organic Ministry Fellowship&#8221;\u00a0 pure standards&#8230; and\u00a0 \u00a0HOW this present ongoing controlling, intent up revenue producing SYSTEM continually missed the mark.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>NOTE we need to compare The CHIEF MINISTRY\u00a0 SYSTEM FRUIT<\/strong> &#8230;&#8221;for pet preferred\u00a0 types only&#8221; superior, demands to be Big I&#8217;s, Little (usable) &#8220;them&#8221;.. accusing &#8230;legalistic, prioritized DEMANDS&#8230;(hu)man pleasing&#8221; Self Pleasing Established Temple chief system &#8220;acquiring fruits.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1802\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-24-at-9.54.43-AM-300x145.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"445\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>THE ELITE BIG CONTRAST&#8230;<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong> HEBREWS 56: 7 and THE TEMPLE TABLE TOSSING ENTRENCHED OVERSEER CHIEF SYSTEM<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>THE CHIEF HEBREW SYSTEM: AN OVERSEER PROUD\u00a0 SYSTEM OF ELITE POWER, ARISTOCRATIC CONTROLLING POSITION AND\u00a0 LP BASTIEN OF\u00a0 SENIOR SR MINISTRY\u00a0 PERKS\u00a0 \u00a0rather than &#8220;the house of prayer for ALL peoples&#8221; (it was not modeling His dear Creator\u00a0 Father&#8217;s True Safe House.)<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1767\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-13-at-7.41.06-AM-300x226.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"226\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-13-at-7.41.06-AM-300x226.png 300w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-13-at-7.41.06-AM-1024x770.png 1024w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-13-at-7.41.06-AM-768x578.png 768w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-13-at-7.41.06-AM.png 1316w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>MISSING PERCEPTIONS IN\u00a0 MINISTRY DISCERNMENT<\/h2>\n<h2>TRAINING WORDS<\/h2>\n<p><strong>WHILE I DO NOT DEFINE THE FOLLOWING, I WILL SUBMIT EACH TO YOU TO INTENTIONALLY STIR UP DISCERNING REALISTIC, PERCEPTIVE, DOCTRINAL THOUGHT<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Later I will try to define..maybe in the course of days, weeks.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;PLEASE SHARE WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT EACH OF THE FOLLOWING:<\/p>\n<h3>ASSESS, EVALUATE<\/h3>\n<h3>ADMONISH, REPROVE<\/h3>\n<h3>CORRECT, CONFRONT (Leader assessed via Matthew 18;15-16, meek Galatians 6:1)<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>JESUS AUTHORITY:\u00a0 PERSUASIVE, RATIONAL,\u00a0 NON PC, NON LICENTIOUS.. YET NOT HARDENED, TOTALITARIAN, AUTHORITARIAN, FORCED TO CONFORM<\/h3>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>UP FRONT ONE TO ONE CONFER, INTERACT, EVEN RESPECTFULLY CONFRONT&#8230;VS MANIPULATIVE, AVOIDANT, DEEP INTRIGUE..PLAY SELF SERVING MIND GAMES<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>RELATIONSHIP, ONE TO ONE UPFRONT INTERACT. NOT RULER OVER SEER PHARISEE HARD AUTHORITARIAN RELIGIOUS LEGALISTIC\u00a0 REQUIREMENTS<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>CHRISTIAN MINISTRY, A MINISTRY FELLOWSHIP, A CHURCH &#8230;VS A&#8230;BIG, OR SMALL &#8220;SYSTEM&#8221; ..CLIQUE, CLAN, TV FAMOUS MEGA CULT&#8230;&#8221;as in actually in the FIRST CHURCH &#8230;BIBLE.. Hebrews 10:25 \/Isaiah 56:7 \/all Ephesians 4&#8230;&#8221;purely organic&#8221; (also due to DFW.. possibly a &#8220;faith based&#8221; ALGORITHM)<\/h3>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1725\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Screen-Shot-2021-08-29-at-10.40.17-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"206\" height=\"224\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>CONVICTION, RESPECTFUL SUBMITTED SELAH&#8230;.. NOT AUTOCRATIC, NOT\u00a0 HARDCORE DOGMA<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>IMPASSIONED, GREAT ENTHUSIASM ,ZEAL, BUT NOT COERCE, OVERWHELM, SUPPRESS, OPPRESS, DOMINATE, DEMEAN ACCUSE BULLY<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>CONTEND FOR THE FAITH ..HOWEVER&#8230;NEVER DIVISIVE CONTENTION.<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>FAR OFF ASSESS, PONDER, EVALUATE..VS FAR AWAY SUSPECT, ACCUSE, TALE BEAR,\u00a0 FALSE WITNESS<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2><strong>PS BEING CHRISTIAN REGARDED AS A &#8220;FAMOUS\u00a0<\/strong><\/h2>\n<h2><strong> CELEBRITY&#8221;\u00a0 VS A MINISTRY WHO IS\u00a0 &#8220;(a Bible word)<\/strong><\/h2>\n<h2><strong> RENOWN&#8221;..<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><strong>EVEN MANY MORE..but surely this list is enough for today!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1787 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-300x144.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"144\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-300x144.png 300w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-1024x491.png 1024w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-768x369.png 768w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-1536x737.png 1536w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-2048x983.png 2048w, https:\/\/tclleader.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/Screen-Shot-2021-09-22-at-9.16.34-AM-2000x960.png 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">SHOW YOUR SUPPORT:<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/donate?hosted_button_id=XT8EC8RT2VRH8\">https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/donate?hosted_button_id=XT8EC8RT2VRH8<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h2>CONTACT: taveaumentoring@gmail.com<\/h2>\n<p>(C)2021 DFW Leader Ministry Fellowship All copyrights reserved<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; THIS\u00a0 OFFICE MAVEN OF APOSTOLIC THEOLOGY, finds that for the last 25 TV MEDIA Christian Ministry OFFICE producing mega, multicultural YEARS that the basic &#8220;got wonderfully saved, and then listens to ONLY ONE &#8220;TV FAMOUS ONGOING MINISTRY &#8221; TRAINING SPIRITUAL KIND&#8221;..needs a bit of TRAINING in the fine tuning.. &nbsp; HERE&#8217;S WHY CHOSEN TO&hellip; <\/p>\n<div class=\"readmore-wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/?p=1801\" class=\"more-link\">Read <\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1767,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_stc_notifier_status":"sent","_stc_notifier_sent_time":"2021-10-03 06:48:44","_stc_notifier_request":false,"_stc_notifier_prevent":false,"_stc_subscriber_keywords":"","_stc_subscriber_search_areas":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1801","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sober-wake-up"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.2 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"THIS OFFICE MAVEN OF APOSTOLIC THEOLOGY, finds that for the last 25 TV MEDIA Christian Ministry OFFICE producing mega, multicultural YEARS that the basic &quot;got wonderfully saved, and then listens to ONLY ONE &quot;TV FAMOUS ONGOING MINISTRY &quot; TRAINING SPIRITUAL KIND&quot;..needs a bit of TRAINING in the fine tuning.. 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