{"id":9846,"date":"2025-07-23T19:08:44","date_gmt":"2025-07-23T23:08:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/?p=9846"},"modified":"2025-07-23T19:08:44","modified_gmt":"2025-07-23T23:08:44","slug":"part-23-identifying-the-gossip-ministries-trial-by-talking-heads","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tclleader.com\/?p=9846","title":{"rendered":"PART 23 IDENTIFYING THE GOSSIP MINISTRIES : TRIAL BY TALKING HEADS?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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TRIAL BY TALKING HEADS:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

When Christian Media Replaces Apostolic Correction<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

And ….is it (based on recurring ‘fruit”) more akin to <\/span>“Ministry Mob Justice in the Digital Age<\/strong>” \u2014 <\/span>And upon close Bible, First Church repeated examination\u00a0 violate both Scripture and the spirit of Christ”
\nGod’s love covers a multitude of sins”<\/strong> as compared with
\n“\u201cAnd have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.\u201d Ephesians 5:11<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

(C) 2025\u00a0 Taveau D\u2019Arcy all copyrights reserved under international copyright laws, inconjunction with Ai<\/p>\n

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ASKING:”Do they have a CROSS TO BEAR or an AXE TO GRIND.. OR RENT TO PAY”<\/strong> (the spirit dropped the first part of this in my heat, in Jan 2025 Identifying the Gossip Ministries www.ministryaiandi.com 22 part series Jan 20-22, 2025<\/p>\n

The Point:<\/span> <\/strong><\/p>\n

We need truth \u2014 but not tabloid truth. We need justice \u2014 but not media justice.<\/strong><\/p>\n


\nTD Wonders: IS THIS “CHRISTIAN BASHING” FOR CLICK BAIT, MANY VIEWS (as it resembles TMZ basic styles of ‘glamorized scandal reporting)\u00a0 ACTUALLY ” SELFISH?”<\/strong><\/p>\n

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POINT: Jesus confronted sin, but He never publicly exposed someone\u2019s downfall for the crowd\u2019s entertainment.<\/strong><\/p>\n


POINT: He restored Peter quietly after denial. He stooped low to defend the woman caught in adultery<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

\u00a0Introduction<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

In today\u2019s Christian culture, it\u2019s no longer the local church or seasoned elders correcting<\/strong> fallen ministers.
\nIt\u2019s YouTube prophets.
\nIt\u2019s popular Christian newsletters.
\nIt\u2019s “discernment” blogs.<\/p>\n

Families, former staff, and anonymous s<\/strong>ources often post online, not in private or before a board.<\/p>\n

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SOCIAL MEDIA POINT<\/span><\/h2>\n

Trial by Talking Heads vs First Church Accountability<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

Let\u2019s compare true Bible protocol<\/strong> with what\u2019s happening today:<\/p>\n

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\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Issue<\/th>\nFirst Church<\/strong> (Jesus, Paul, Apostles)<\/th>\nModern Christian Expos\u00e9 Culture<\/strong><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
Process<\/strong><\/td>\nPrivate \u2192 2-3 witnesses \u2192 Church (Matt. 18:15\u201317)<\/td>\nImmediate public exposure online<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Motivation<\/strong><\/td>\nCorrection & Restoration (Gal. 6:1)<\/td>\nViews, outrage, platform growth<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Judgment<\/strong><\/td>\nBased on witnesses and facts (1 Tim. 5:19)<\/td>\nBased on rumor, assumption, editing<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Audience<\/strong><\/td>\nThe Body of Christ (local or apostolic)<\/td>\nAnyone with internet access<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Spirit<\/strong><\/td>\nMeekness, grief, edification (2 Cor. 2:6\u20138)<\/td>\nAccusation, spectacle, often glee<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Authority<\/strong><\/td>\nChurch elders or spiritual leaders<\/td>\nSelf-appointed watchdogs, \u201cdiscerners\u201d<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Restoration<\/strong><\/td>\nDesired<\/td>\nRarely mentioned, if ever<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

This public spectacle<\/strong> \u2014 often monetized \u2014 raises urgent questions:<\/p>\n

Is this biblical exposure (Ephesians 5:11)?<\/p>\n

Or is it gossip dressed as justice?<\/p>\n

What did Jesus and Paul actually model?<\/p>\n

How did the First Church train leaders to handle this?<\/p>\n

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When Even Families Start \u201cReporting Online\u201d<\/span><\/h2>\n

Yes \u2014 this is new territory<\/em>, but it echoes 2 Timothy 3:1\u20135<\/strong>:<\/p>\n

\u201c…disobedient to parents, unthankful…without natural affection…false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good…\u201d<\/p>\n

When:<\/p>\n

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    Children go public with personal family wounds,<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    Relatives publish \u201cinside scoops\u201d as gossip,<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    Ex-staff leak documents or screenshots to Christian bloggers,<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

    \u2026it’s not healthy rebuke. It\u2019s often wounded retaliation + bitterness<\/strong>, masquerading as \u201cjustice.\u201d<\/p>\n

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    Real Dangers of This \u201cExpose Everything Online\u201d Culture<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      It creates ‘accuser fallout’ toward all Christians<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      It creates big suspicion of the name ever true Christian, as. well as the false<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      It creates, bias, negative declarations “word curses” <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      It trains the entire video watching society <\/strong>, around the blog, plus the unbelievers and many young, as the many dysfunctional,\u00a0 \u00a0 to walk in suspicion, fear of being duped, also making ALL forms Christian<\/p>\n

      Pastor TD\u00a0 Note: ‘even if they do that ,that is their CHOICE but this ministry is about GETTING PEOPLE SAVED BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE..and this stuff HURTS men, women and young
      \n
      \nSELAH POINT: IS A CHRISTIAN BASHING A FELLOW CHRISTIAN, A MINISTER\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

      \u00a0FOR VIEWS\u00a0 ACTUALLY “DYSFUNCTIONAL? “MISGUIDED\u00a0 ” AN EGO?\u00a0 \u00a0“SELFISH?”<\/strong><\/p>\n

      ASIDE THINKING POINT: <\/strong><\/p>\n

      also might that individual, all of those hard working very many Bible Perspective:\u00a0 be\u00a0 “guilty of failing to discern the body of Christ correctly” Corinthians, “uncovering Noah’s sin” “committing the sin of rebuking an elder without 2-3 first hand witnesses? “doing all of this for the money (A Demas) more<\/strong><\/p>\n

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        It violates due process<\/strong> (1 Tim. 5:19\u201320)<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        It weaponizes people\u2019s personal failures<\/strong> \u2014 even repented ones<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        It confuses the Body<\/strong> (Was this proven? Was this handled properly?)<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        It creates fear-based leadership<\/strong> (Who\u2019s next?)<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

        What Did Paul Do?<\/span><\/h2>\n

        Even when Paul named names<\/strong> (e.g., Hymenaeus and Alexander, 1 Tim. 1:20), it was:<\/p>\n

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          Brief,<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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          Specific to false doctrine,<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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          With a goal: \u201cthat they learn not to blaspheme\u201d<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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          AND it was done within church context<\/strong>, not for public humiliation.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

          He didn’t write open newsletters to the world. He didn\u2019t record a \u201cTop 10 False Apostles\u201d reel.<\/p>\n

          Is Ephesians 5:11 Being Twisted?<\/span><\/h2>\n

          Yes \u2014 it\u2019s being used as a license to gossip<\/strong> and shame publicly.<\/p>\n

          Ephesians 5:11 tells us to reprove works of darkness.
          But Jesus’ method<\/strong> and Paul’s teaching shows us:<\/p>\n

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            Reproof is not the same as public destruction<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

          • \n

            It must be Spirit-led, redemptive, sober<\/strong>, and submitted to godly authority<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            It is not a DIY smear campaign<\/strong>, no matter how righteous it\u2019s made to sound<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

            \u00a0First Church vs Modern Christian \u201cTrials\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Compare Biblical Correction (First Church) with Modern Trial by Talking Heads<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Matthew 18:15\u201317<\/strong> \u2014 Private \u2192 witnesses \u2192 church Instant global exposure via video or post<\/p>\n

            Galatians 6:1<\/strong> \u2014 Restore with meekness Cancel, shame, and monetize it<\/p>\n

            1 Tim. 5:19<\/strong> \u2014 Only accept accusations with 2\u20133 witnesses Accept anonymous emails, blogs, social buzz<\/p>\n

            2 Cor. 2:6\u20138 \u2014<\/strong> Discipline, but forgive and comfort No restoration plan, just damage<\/p>\n

            Done by mature leaders or eldership Done by influencers<\/strong>, \u201cwatchdogs,\u201d and angry relatives
            \nReproof means bring to light for healing Reproof becomes expos\u00e9 for followers and clicks<\/p>\n

            \u00a0When Even the Family Goes Public<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

            We now see:<\/p>\n

            Children exposing ministers\u2019 sins (recall Noah’s son uncovering this senior leader father’s nakedness, while his 2 siblings silently covered him) That is why Ham brought down the curse upon himself.<\/p>\n

            Ex-spouses, angry bitter family writing tell-alls<\/p>\n

            Distant relatives giving \u201cinsider scoops\u201d<\/p>\n

            Former staff leaking personal texts or sermons<\/p>\n

            Sometimes it’s true pain. Sometimes it\u2019s bitterness, grief, or revenge.
            \nEither way, going public without process is not First Church protocol.<\/p>\n

            Proverbs 18:17 (KJV)<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

            \u201cHe that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

            It sounds eerily like 2 Timothy 3:3\u20135:<\/p>\n

            “False accusers, fierce…traitors…lovers of themselves…”<\/p>\n

            Ephesians 5:11 \u2014 Misused?<\/strong><\/p>\n

            \u201cAnd have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

            Key Words (with Greek meanings):<\/span><\/h3>\n
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              Fellowship<\/strong> (\u03c3\u03c5\u03b3\u03ba\u03bf\u03b9\u03bd\u03c9\u03bd\u03ad\u03c9, synkoin\u014dne\u014d<\/em>): to partner with, share in, take part in<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

            • \n

              Unfruitful<\/strong> (\u1f04\u03ba\u03b1\u03c1\u03c0\u03bf\u03c2, akarpos<\/em>): producing no good fruit, spiritually barren<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              Works<\/strong> (\u1f14\u03c1\u03b3\u03bf\u03bd, ergon<\/em>): deeds, actions, behaviors<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              Darkness<\/strong> (\u03c3\u03ba\u03cc\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2, skotos<\/em>): spiritual ignorance, moral blindness, evil<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              Reprove<\/strong> (\u1f10\u03bb\u03ad\u03b3\u03c7\u03c9, elench\u014d<\/em>): to expose, convict, bring to light \u2014 not just accuse, but to correct with truth<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

              This is often used as a license to gossip.<\/strong><\/p>\n

              But in Greek, \u201creprove\u201d (elench\u014d) means:<\/strong><\/p>\n

              To bring into light for correction<\/p>\n

              With moral clarity and order<\/p>\n

              Not for spectacle or shame<\/p>\n

              Paul never used it to justify global character assassination.<\/p>\n

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              \nBiblical Exposure vs Gossip Culture<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

              Leviticus 19:16<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

              \u201cThou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people<\/em><\/p>\n

                \n
              • Test Biblical Exposure Gossip \/ Clickbait<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                 <\/p>\n

                  \n
                • Goal Correction and repentance Public shaming and view counts<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                   <\/p>\n

                    \n
                  • Tone Grieving, humble Loud, mocking, dramatic<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                     <\/p>\n

                      \n
                    • Audience Elders or the Body The global internet<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                       <\/p>\n

                        \n
                      • Evidence? 2\u20133 witnesses or firsthand Often secondhand or implied<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                         <\/p>\n

                          \n
                        • Restoration? Yes, always Rarely mentioned<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                          \u00a0Final Thought: What Would Jesus Do?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

                          Jesus exposed systems, not people\u2019s private failures.<\/strong>
                          \nHe rebuked Pharisees w<\/strong>ho loved public honor.<\/p>\n

                          But when Peter denied Him? He restored him.<\/p>\n

                          When the woman was caught in adultery? He defended her from a public stoning \u2014 then gently corrected.<\/p>\n

                          \u00a0Conclusion<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          We don\u2019t need \u201cChristian tabloid culture.\u201d<\/strong>
                          \nWe need mature, Spirit-led discipline.
                          \nWe need the apostolic model, not the algorithmic model.<\/p>\n

                          If a minister is truly fallen:<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          Let it be handled through godly channels<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          Let it be judged with truth and evidence,Let it go to the police, the courts<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          Let it be spoken with the aim of restoration (mature, humble Galatians 6:1,Matthew 18:15-16(<\/p>\n

                          Not for clicks. Not for revenge. Not for drama<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

                          \u201cLet all things be done decently and in order.\u201d \u2014 1 Corinthians 14:40<\/p>\n

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                          LAST:WE WANT TO ENVISION<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          IF JESUS OR PAUL EACH HAS A MODERN MEDIA PODCAST<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          Let\u2019s imagine how Jesus<\/strong> or Paul<\/strong> \u2014 if they hosted a modern podcast or broadcast<\/strong> \u2014 might respond to fallen TV preachers, prosperity teachers, and the gossip-obsessed Christian and secular world.<\/p>\n

                          But remember: they wouldn\u2019t sound like most of what we hear online today.<\/strong><\/p>\n

                          \u00a0IF JESUS OR PAUL HAD A PODCAST TODAY\u2026<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          They wouldn’t<\/strong>:<\/p>\n

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                            Tear down individuals for entertainment<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            Play video clips for shock value<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            Mock or exaggerate<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            Use titles like \u201cExposed! FALSE Prophet SHAMED Before Millions!\u201d<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            Feed the outrage machine<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                            They would<\/strong>:<\/p>\n

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                              Teach sound doctrine with clarity<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Address the spirit behind the error<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Call for repentance and fear of the Lord<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Weep over the Body\u2019s brokenness<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Offer hope for restoration<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Warn without targeting egos<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                              \u00a0ENVISION: <\/span><\/h3>\n


                              \n30 YEAR OLD JESUS: The Podcast Host Who Spoke in Red Letters<\/span><\/h3>\n

                              His style:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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                                Stories (parables), not clickbait<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                Questions that search hearts<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                Correction, yes \u2014 but always aiming to redeem<\/em>, not destroy<\/em><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                Example Episode Title:<\/h4>\n

                                \u00a0\u201cWoe to the Hypocrites\u2026 But Mercy Is Still Offered\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

                                He might say:<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                \u201cThere are many who preach in My name, but I never sent them. Some sell the temple\u2019s glory for silver and spotlight.<\/strong> But I say to you: Repent, for the Kingdom is near.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                \u201cTo My sheep: Judge not by appearance or gossip, but by fruit. And let him that is without sin cast the first stone.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

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                                WHAT ABOUT PAUL HAVING HIS MEDIA BROADCAST<\/h3>\n

                                ENVISION PAUL: The Apostle Podcast Host With Fire and Structure<\/span><\/h3>\n

                                His style:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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                                  Bold correction when needed<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                  Clear about doctrine, false gospels<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                  Protective over the flock<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                  Aimed at order, never confusion<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                  Example Episode Title:<\/span><\/h4>\n

                                  \u201cProsperity Without the Cross? Another Gospel\u201d<\/em>
                                  \u201cMinistry or Merchandise: Weighing Teachers in Light of the Word\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

                                  He might say:<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                  \u201cIf any man preach another gospel \u2014 let him be accursed<\/strong>. But brethren, even now, some preach Christ out of envy and strife<\/strong>. I pray they turn.\u201d<\/p>\n

                                  \u201cMark those who cause division through flattering speech and smooth words<\/strong>. But speak the truth in love \u2014 and restore the fallen with meekness.\u201d<\/p>\n

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                                  ENVISION:<\/span> JESUS AND PAUL: Surgical in Truth, Gentle Toward the Broken<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                                  They would:<\/p>\n

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                                    Address systems<\/strong> (greed, fame, manipulation)<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                    Warn about false gospels<\/strong> (without a personal smear campaign)<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                    Mourn the lost witness<\/em> to the world<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                    Expose darkness with compassion and backbone<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                    Stay in line with Galatians 6:1<\/strong> and Matthew 18:15\u201317<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                    They would never make failure into entertainment<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

                                    \"\"<\/p>\n

                                    And to the Gossiping, Divided Church?<\/span><\/h2>\n

                                    They might preach:<\/p>\n

                                    \u201cWhy do you eat the bread of gossip and drink the wine of suspicion?<\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n

                                    \u201cWhile you consume scandal, who weeps for the broken?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                    \u201cIf your brother is overtaken in a fault, restore him in the spirit of meekness \u2014 not mockery.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                    \"\"<\/p>\n

                                    \u00a0And to the Watching World?<\/span><\/h2>\n

                                    Jesus and Paul would:<\/p>\n

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                                      Call the world to repentance<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                      Speak truth with conviction<\/strong>, not hypocrisy<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                      Admit the church\u2019s failings<\/strong> with sorrow, not defense<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                      Lift up the cross<\/strong>, not the failure of men<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                      \u00a0Final Thought<\/span><\/h2>\n

                                      Jesus would cleanse the temple<\/strong> again \u2014 but also kneel down and write in the dust before judging.
                                      Paul would rebuke sharply<\/strong> \u2014 but plead that they be made sound in the faith.<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                      So if they had podcasts?<\/p>\n

                                      They\u2019d expose error without exalting themselves<\/strong>, restore without rage<\/strong>, and teach without tearing down the broken<\/strong> for clout.<\/p>\n

                                        \n
                                      • All of this is submitted Food for Thought “SELAH”<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                        Leviticus 19:16<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                                        \u201cThou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people…\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

                                        In Hebrew: rakil<\/em> \u2014 someone who spreads private or scandalous news
                                        This law was given to prevent communal breakdown through hearsay.<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                        TO SUPPORT: Pray<\/strong><\/p>\n

                                        TO SPIRIT LED GIVE ?