2014 APOSTOLIC VINTAGE “LUST PRIDE VANITY” LPV AND A LEADER WORD

NOTE: I have great work on www.ministryaiandi.com I want to address ministry, family, control, false authority and this. Keeping checking it, the article which follows, is a big Integral Part..but  just a glimpse

 

Sign Above: The Title of a Word from the Lord to the Body of Christ, Mostly Charismatic Showbiz..meaning ALL races

Of God’s Coming Acts 2 FLUSH of His Mighty, Purifying, Cleansing Wind, Which Would Be Ongoing and Purify What Ought to Be Recognized as “God’s Ministry Houses” (Not Ours)

This leader was written and posted as an article out September 2019, prior to COVID. I also posted a second leader word December of 2020 of “The Demas-ization of America,” and if you recall, ministries were all closed March 2020.

Trust me: The Firmly Set In Continuing Enormous Subculture of “Religious” Beliefs is more interested in the gift, their talent, their turf, their ownership of the many… plus their entertainment and their mega, micro many blessings, income, than the First Church-abiding Holy Fear of the Lord, also love of the everyday walk of life—normal, diverse humans: aliens, strangers, female, male expats, and walking-it-out angels…mostly? “atypical humans.”

And when that happened, I was in DFW and saw God’s reasons for what I called “God rebooting (also HIS) Churches.” However, that was before this last period, and I sense that merchandising, showbiz, ambition, and false authority, use of controlling (high style) witchcraft and adulterous psychic/occult influences—rather than the pure accepting including Holy Spirit—are still allowed to exist for creature comforts in most, if not all, of these same, similar ill-report houses.

Note:
This year, in late January 2025 to early this  March2025, I was given the  (recurring) impression that God is about to move AGAIN and that HE WILL AGAIN FLUSH OUT HIS CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES and that it WOULD ALSO BE ONGOING (plus it will take ALL of us, to handle This Move)…Thus: we all need to lower ourselves, repent, and adjust to what His Spirit wants us to do , to behave and to “easily entreated’ to ALL Human Relate.

.Sincerely, Dr T

 

YOUR AND MY L.P.V.
Human Carnal Heart Condition: LUST, PRIDE, VANITY

“For all have fallen short of God’s Glory.”

But may we leaders begin again.

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NOTE: this word LPV (below) was first posted www.randomsaltandselahs.wordpress January 2014. It is for the Body of Christ.Ones who chose HIM but ones who must choose to live FOR Him, each and every single day..This writer being included in that.

ONGOING PURPOSE:
To de-frag Puritan Mindsets -(“shame based and scolding”) which usually are easily horrified, emotionally unhealthy, diatribing and berating, prone to gossip, incessant targeting, vilifying, rumor mongering, also On Social Media. and very locally …also, . knee jerk reaction Bible stomping! (Meaning? really weak, naive, emotionally immature also     un-
Christlike also “untrustworthy” (See Pauline 2 Timothy 3:1-6 Galatians 6:1)

Seek the Lord about “His Methodology” and “Tone”

What is Cross Body Unity, Sr Pastor Taveau D’Arcy’s  Ministry Equipping Vocabulary:

LPV

Officially I, we define LPV as the basic human carnal condition after the Fall in Genesis 3—

Lust, Pride, and Vanity.

This condition is common across all races, genders, and global people groups. I submit, as a ministry Selah to the Christian body, that each and every one of us is “prone” to carry these tendencies, to play with them, and at times, allow them to try to master us in one way or another. They manifest in varying degrees, whether outwardly or inwardly, and can lead to addictions and behaviors that are easily discerned or more hidden.

I teach this concept to unify, to  defrag unjust accusation  from from persons, ministry land legalism, also “fear,” sin consciousness and the many squeamy “Puritan like” (fear based, naive, religious, weak holier than thou) unjust accusations…plus  the traditional religious spirit that often leads to Bible-thumping, witch-hunting, and more.

Each and every one of us is prone to LPV. However, by turning to Christ, accepting His help to self-govern, and watching over these tendencies, the born-again Christian—whether in leadership or as a layperson—will not bury these tendencies in secret shame, flaunt them in public, or display self-righteous pride in a Pharisaical manner.

For pride is perceived, not just from up close, but also from a distance, as Psalm 123 illustrates.

Note that this person is always turning to the Lord for ongoing help, seeking Christ’s guidance to oversee and manage their own mortal tendencies toward Lust, Pride, and Vanity.

PRIDE
People Might Perceiver “See” Our Superior Pride

In Psalm 123:3-4 (KJV), the psalmist expresses a deep awareness of the pride and oppression from others, particularly those in positions of authority. Here are the verses:

Psalm 123:3-4 (KJV)
“Have mercy upon us, O Lord, have mercy upon us:

for we are exceedingly filled with contempt.

Our soul is exceedingly filled with the scorning of those that are at ease,

and with the contempt of the proud.”

Inward Discernment of Superior Pride:
Our Arrogant Pride

In these verses, the psalmist describes how their (his, your, my, all of their) soul is “exceedingly filled with contempt” due to the pride and scorning of those who are “at ease” and “proud.” The psalmist’s inward discernment reveals how they feel oppressed by those who hold positions of superiority and take advantage of their position to look down upon others. These individuals are described as living in ease, showing no concern for the suffering of others, and displaying a sense of superiority that causes contempt toward those beneath them.

This can be understood as a recognition of superior pride—the kind of pride that arises from a position of power or privilege, where the prideful individual perceives themselves as above others, perhaps even beyond reproach. The psalmist, in contrast, acknowledges the painful effects of this pride on their soul, feeling the weight of the scorn and disdain from those who live without empathy or humility.

Key points of discernment:

  • The psalmist is deeply aware of the internal effects of prideful, superior individuals who oppress others, which is evident in the language of “exceedingly filled with contempt.”

  • This pride is inwardly felt not only by the psalmist but affects their spirit, showing how pride from others can manifest as emotional and spiritual distress.

  • The contrast is drawn between those who are at ease (comfortable in their pride and power) and the psalmist, who is calling for God’s mercy to overcome this scorn and oppression.

In this passage, the psalmist’s discernment of pride isn’t just intellectual but deeply emotional and spiritual. The psalmist is not only recognizing the pride from others but is also experiencing the effects of that pride, calling for God’s mercy and relief from the scorn they endure.

“The mouth speaks what the heart is full of…” Luke 6:45

Gossip, accusation, and backbiting all stem from what fills the heart. As Luke 6:45 (KJV) states:

“A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.”

When someone is consumed by LPV—Lust, Pride, and Vanity, their heart becomes a breeding ground for false witness, gossip, and accusations:

  • Lust fuels envy and covetousness, leading to slander against those who have what one desires.

  • Pride fosters a superiority complex, driving someone to tear others down to elevate themselves.

  • Vanity causes obsession with appearances, leading to judgment, gossip, and false accusations to protect one’s own image.

A Pharisaical, accusatory spirit is often a cover for deep insecurity—tearing others down to feel built up. But Jesus warns that our words expose the condition of our hearts, and idle, reckless speech brings accountability before God (Matthew 12:36-37).

Thus, a mouth filled with gossip and accusation reflects a heart not governed by Christ but by self-importance, fear, and unchecked LPV.

A spirit of false witness and pride fosters a willingness to gossip and accuse, often reflecting a Pharisaical mindset. This behavior is frequently rooted in low self-esteem, which in turn stems from LPVLust, Pride, and Vanity.

  • Lust – A craving for status, possessions, or control over others (including FOMO—fear of missing out).

  • Pride – A sense of superiority or inferiority, leading to self-righteous judgment.

  • Vanity – A senseless preoccupation with one’s image or perceived importance.

This toxic combination fuels gossip, false accusations, and divisive leadership, all of which stand in contrast to Christ’s teachings of humility, truth, and love.

 

LPV Original Bible Study

LUST PRIDE VANITY  UNHEALTHY ROOTS

What follows is a reflection by this author.

Category: God, Love, and Making Real (Needed) Money
Theme: Who Can I Truly Trust?

The Extreme Warfare of LPV (Lust, Pride, Vanity)

Is Vanity One of the First Steps Toward Inhumanity?

Overview & Preface

The Apostle Paul writes to the Philippians:

“To write this to you for me is not grievous, but for you, it is safe. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.”
Philippians 3:1-3

Paul then recounts his testimony, describing his former achievements and how he ultimately considered them worthless compared to knowing Christ:

“I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ… I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ.”
Philippians 3:8

Later, he warns with deep sorrow:

“For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.”
Philippians 3:18-19

Surely, these conditions remain the same for many in pioneering, home-based, ministry, and business leadership today.

LPV Pitfalls

Lust, Pride, and Vanity
Our Roots of Ambitious FOMO??

Lust, pride, and vanity often take root when there is an intense focus on self, while simultaneously accusing others of not measuring up.

The book of Proverbs warns against such comparisons:

“He who compares himself with another is not wise.”

The Root of Competitive Pride

Competitive pride is deeply rooted in self-focus, ego, and hidden, self-promoting vanity. It thrives on comparison and accusation, driving individuals to elevate themselves at the expense of others.

Accuser: Brother Against Brother

After being cast out of the Garden of Eden, fallen human nature bore its first tragic fruit: envy and accusation.

Cain, driven by pride and fear of displacement, became envious of his own brother, Abel. Instead of maintaining spiritual discernment, self-control, and Godly leadership temperance, he lost control of his impulses.

In a moment of unchecked rage and competition, Cain murdered the very brother he had grown up with—all because of a need to dominate and be “over” others.

The Interconnection of Accusation, Mammon, Superior Pride, and Vanity

According to the Holy Bible, the accuser, mammon, superior pride, and vanity are deeply interrelated. These forces impact and disrupt every God-ordained relationship:

  • Between God and each person

  • Between a person and their own self-worth

  • Between spouses in marriage

  • Between parents and their children

  • Between extended family members

  • Between individuals and their communities, churches, workplaces, and civil society

Mid-Article Conclusion: The Link Between Making a Living and Relationships

It becomes evident that earning a living is closely tied to all biblical, personal, leadership, marriage, community, national, and even supernatural interactions. Every aspect of human life revolves around relationships.

However, Lust, Pride, and Vanity (LPV) compete against the call to serve and relate to others in the holy fear of the Lord.

The Fear of the Lord: A Key to Preserving Relationships

Proverbs 2:1-5 provides God’s instruction for prioritizing life—which, if followed, would help safeguard all of the aforementioned relationships:

“My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;
So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; (a key secret!)
Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.
For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.” (Proverbs 2:1-5, KJV)

This passage reveals that seeking godly wisdom above material gain leads to true understanding, preserving all relationships through the fear of the Lord.

A Hero Role Model: Christ, the Non-Accusative Messiah

While enduring great undue pressure—whether from town gossip, intense spiritual warfare, complex family and personal relationships, or the deep need for inward knowledge of who He truly and eternally was—Jesus Christ remained steadfast. He fully understood the hearts and minds of every human, including those who accused Him. Yet, He never lost personal self-governance or wavered in His apostolic mission. He consistently secured His daily bread and fulfilled His ministry without ever failing or giving up.

(More on this at another time…)

Material wealth, prestige, and honor often come into play in both Godly relationships and in role modeling the Isaiah 11:3 non-accuser Messiah, Jesus Christ:

“He delighted in the fear of the Lord and did not judge by the sight of His eyes, nor make decisions based on what He heard.” (Isaiah 11:3)

Jesus: Without One Accuser’s Fault

A deep Bible study of Christ’s character and life reveals that He never lost control—whether in personal relationships, leadership, or public ministry. He wielded perfect authority, yet not once did He speak a demeaning, accusative, or bigoted word.

The King of Tyrus Analogy

A striking description of the rebellious, fallen dark angel, Satan (Lucifer) is found in Ezekiel 27 and 28. While we touch on both chapters here, a deeper exploration must wait for another time.
Note: while I  include both here..many apologies, for we don’t have room to go too deeply)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+27-28&version=KJV

However, we do call your attention to this:

EZEKIEL 28: 2-5 In the Bible King of Tyrus is an analogy to the false religious spirit of superior accusative human VANITY and relentless PRIDE which in fact, also paint clear pictures of a pictures of the Accuser, Lucifer, well known as satan, the very FIRST worship leader up in heaven.

“Because your heart is lifted up,And you say, ‘I am a god,I sit in the seat of gods,In the midst of the seas,’

Yet you are a man, and not a god,

Though you set your heart as the heart of a god(Behold, you are wiser than Daniel!

There is no secret that can be hidden from you!

With your wisdom and your understandingYou have gained riches for yourself,

And gathered gold and silver into your treasuries;

By your great wisdom in trade you have increased your riches,

And your heart is lifted up because of your riches,” NKJV

Meeting of The Church, All of Us…and the World System

The King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is often interpreted symbolically as representing Lucifer before his fall as well as a human ruler (likely Ithobaal II, King of Tyre). The passage starts with a prophetic judgment against the human ruler but then shifts into descriptions that seem beyond any mere mortal—referencing Eden, divine beauty, and an anointed cherub. This is why many theologians believe it serves as a dual prophecy:

  1. A literal prophecy against the historical King of Tyre – Condemning his pride, corruption, and economic exploitation.

  2. A symbolic depiction of Satan’s fall – Reflecting Lucifer’s original exalted state, his rebellion, and his ultimate downfall.

1. King of Tyre as a Symbol of Levitical Patriarchalism (LPV)

You asked if the King of Tyre represents LPV (Levitical Patriarchism View). The answer depends on how you define LPV. If you see it as a prideful, controlling, authoritarian system that distorts spiritual authority, then yes, the King of Tyre is a symbol of LPV.

  • Ezekiel 28:2“Because your heart is lifted up, and you have said, ‘I am a god, I sit in the seat of gods…’ yet you are a man, and not God.”

    • This mirrors prideful, authoritarian spiritual leadership, where leaders assume god-like authority over others rather than serving in humility.

  • Ezekiel 28:16-17 – Speaks of Tyre’s corruption, trafficking, and fall due to pride.

    • This reflects systems where power becomes about wealth, control, and dominion rather than true servanthood.

  • Lucifer before the fall (Ezekiel 28:12-15) was adorned with precious stones, perfect in beauty, and held a high position, yet pride led to his downfall. This is comparable to legalistic and authoritarian religious systems that start with divine intent but become oppressive.

A Less than Positive Connection to Genesis 3

In Genesis 3, Lucifer (the serpent) tempts Eve by distorting God’s word and appealing to pride and desire for control (“You will be like God” – Genesis 3:5). The King of Tyre, like Lucifer, fell because of pride and the desire to elevate himself above his rightful position. This is the same tactic used by the serpent in Eden—tempting humans with illegitimate authority, deception, and rebellion against God’s order.

Connection to Revelation 12:7-12

Revelation 12 describes a war in heaven where Michael and his angels defeat the dragon (Satan), who is cast down to earth. This aligns with the fall of Lucifer (Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14) and marks the beginning of Satan’s reign over earthly systems, which includes the Babylonian system at play in the world today.

2. King of Tyre as a Symbol of the Babylonian System Today

The Babylonian system in Scripture represents a global, economic, political, and religious system driven by pride, corruption, materialism, and rebellion against God.

  • Revelation 17-18 describes Mystery Babylon as a corrupt, wealthy, and oppressive system that deceives nations and rules over kings.

  • Tyre was a major trade center known for wealth, luxury, and corruption, just like Babylon in Revelation.

Similarities Between Tyre, Babylon, and Today’s Global Systems:

  • Economic Corruption & Greed:

    • Tyre controlled commerce, Babylon controlled trade, and today’s global elites manipulate wealth and power for control.

  • Spiritual Deception & False Authority:

    • Tyre’s king claimed to be a god, Babylon promoted idolatry, and today we see false religious and political control.

  • Oppression & Persecution of the Righteous:

    • Tyre and Babylon crushed the weak, and in Revelation, Babylon is guilty of the blood of the saints (Rev 18:24).

Final Takeaways

  • The King of Tyre is a prototype of Lucifer before his fall, embodying pride, rebellion, and false authority.

  • He reflects the Babylonian system—a corrupt, deceptive world system of wealth, power, and false worship that still operates today.

  • He parallels Levitical Patriarchalism (if seen as an authoritarian, legalistic system) because of its **pride

  • LPV and authoritarian religious control that mirrors the prideful, rigid, hierarchical rule of the King of Tyre and Babylon.
  • Ultimately, Jesus Christ—the Non-Accuser Messiah—models the opposite of these systems, walking in humility, truth, and servant leadership rather than power-seeking or control.

The Job 41 Leviathan
I owe knowing the existence of the Job 41 due to having a divine appointment , before Texas, with Sister BJ, humble servant minister of the true Glory of God at the state of VA Calvary Campground(late 90’s)

The Hiding Darting, Sneaky Snake of Superior Hiding And Accusing Pride

JOB 41: The analogy of the serpentine LEVIATHAN: which is the example of satan , who was cast down from heaven because of his accusative vain EGO.

Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?

Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?

Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?

Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?

Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.

Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle? Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.

His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.

Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.

His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.

The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.

When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves. The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.

He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.

The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire. He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.

He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.

He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.” KJV

Money Mad and Mean Cruel Indifference

The Indifferent Sins of Sodom

Ezekiel 16:49 highlights the sins of Sodom, which are often not widely known: “Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness was in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.”

The Rich Man and the Poor Man Lazarus

Luke 16:19-31 describes the story of the rich man and the poor man Lazarus. The rich man, well-dressed and living in luxury, ignored the poor beggar, Lazarus, who lay suffering outside his door with running sores. Wild dogs came and licked his sores, yet the rich man did nothing to help.

The Rich Man was “Used to it”

The rich man in the story of Lazarus was likely “used to it” in the sense that he had grown accustomed to his life of privilege and luxury. His wealth had elevated him, creating a comfortable separation from the realities of suffering around him. Over time, this insulation from the struggles of others led to a kind of compassion fatigue. He had become so consumed with his own comforts that the suffering of others, like Lazarus, no longer stirred any genuine response or action in him.

His position made him “insulated” from the pain and poverty outside his gates. He likely became benign in the sense that he didn’t act out of malice but rather out of a passive indifference, perhaps not even fully aware of his own negligence. Over time, his wealth and position hardened his heart, making him unable or unwilling to engage with the suffering around him. This deep, passive disregard for others’ needs reflects a kind of spiritual blindness or apathy, where the privileged become disconnected from the reality of those who are marginalized or in pain.

Thus, the rich man’s privilege didn’t just provide comfort; it also distanced him from compassion, rendering him numb to the cries of the poor. This is a powerful illustration of how privilege can, over time, isolate a person from the burdens of others, leading to a heart that is both unfeeling and unresponsive.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+16%3A19-31&version=NKJV

 

The Author Mentions Psalm 118

The complete and exact opposite of the anathema to the survival of all Bible relationships is LPV (Lust, Pride, and Vanity).

Yet the anathema to all levels of LPV in each of us is to fully know (to discern, perceive, and allow ourselves to fully know, experience, and heed) the mercy of the Lord.

The Mercy of the Wonderful Lord

As we draw to a close, let us point out something more precious than money, security, or hard work—it is the mercy of the Heavenly Father, who is there 100 percent of the time.

I refer to the entirety of Psalm 118 as apostolic life coaching in miniature, as it accurately describes the ups and downs of those who live for God amidst the “fiery trials” and “amazing blessings” of real life. This includes the pressures of ministry, personal life, family, and the often steep and difficult situations that many face.

Taveau D’Arcy Creative Leadership Equipping, her ministry life coaching, and the DFW Leader Fellowship (IFFM) use Psalm 118 to maintain “good cheer” and to “keep heart balance,” offering a realistic, healthy, 5-fold office senior ministry perspective.

In the future, the leader will expound further in the Crossbody Unity Christian Leadership Movement… UNIVERSITY (a non-accredited apostolic leader seminary: “Psalm 118 Doctrines for a New Day”).

Psalm 118

(Key Ministry Verses Highlighted)

“O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever. Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever. Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever. Let them now that fear the Lord say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

I called upon the Lord in distress: the Lord answered me, and set me in a large place. The Lord is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?”(Proverbs 29:25: “Fear of man brings a snare.”)

The Lord taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.
It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.

All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the Lord will I destroy them.
They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.
They compassed me about like bees: they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the Lord I will destroy them.
Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the Lord helped me.

The Lord is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly.


The right hand of the Lord is exalted: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly.
I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the Lord.
The Lord hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the Lord. This gate of the Lord, into which the righteous shall enter.
I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

This is the Lord’s doing; it is marvelous in our eyes.
This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Save now, I beseech thee, O Lord: O Lord, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.
Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord.
God is the Lord, which hath shewed us light: bind the sacrifice with cords, even unto the horns of the altar.
Thou art my God, and I will praise thee: thou art my God, I will exalt thee.
O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.” (KJV)

In closing, please remember: God is Love.

Postscript
When researching Psalm 118, I came across a commentary that contrasted it with Exodus 15:2. It is akin to a baby Psalm 118, a pocket-sized end result overview. Both are heart-pure and free from the accuser’s enabling, avoiding the non-productive LPV:

“The Lord is my strength and song,
And He has become my salvation;
He is my God, and I will praise Him;
My father’s God, and I will exalt Him.”

— Exodus 15:2

In Him, many are granted ongoing blessings.

Taveau D’Arcy

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I AM FOR PEACE…THEY ARE FOR WAR

I Am for Peace, But They Are for War: Understanding Control and Relational Struggles

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This is  part of www.ministryaiandi.com. “Part 1 Avoid Controllers ” March 31, 2025

Psalm 120:7 says, “I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.” This verse captures the emotional pain and confusion that often arises when a person seeks peace, reconciliation, and genuine understanding, but is met with resistance, hostility, or manipulation.

For those who live with integrity, desiring respectful dialogue and sincere relationships, encountering individuals who respond with control or aggression can be deeply disheartening.

Isaiah 1:18 — A Call for Reasoning

Isaiah 1:18 states, “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” This is a divine invitation to open dialogue, genuine reflection, and reconciliation. It is God’s way of modeling how relationships can be restored when both parties approach with humility and a willingness to listen. However, not everyone responds in this spirit.

Ephesians 4:32 — The Call to Kindness and Forgiveness

Ephesians 4:32 says, “And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.” This verse exemplifies the spirit of grace and compassion that believers are called to embody. True kindness involves understanding, empathy, and the willingness to forgive rather than harbor resentment. It stands in stark contrast to the manipulative behaviors often seen in power-driven relationships.

When someone is committed to controlling others, kindness and tenderheartedness are often viewed as weaknesses to exploit. Rather than seeking mutual understanding, they may manipulate circumstances to maintain dominance. Genuine forgiveness, however, is not a submission to manipulation. It is a conscious choice to release bitterness while maintaining healthy boundaries.

The Nature of Controlling Relationships

When a person seeks peace, kindness, and reconciliation, they may find themselves entangled with individuals who operate through control, manipulation, or emotional dominance. This dynamic often stems from unresolved insecurities or a deep need for power. Control manifests in numerous ways:

  • Silent Treatment and Withholding: Refusing to engage or express affection as a form of punishment.
  • Power Plays: Creating a dynamic where the other person is forced to yield in order to restore peace.
  • Emotional Manipulation: Using guilt, shame, or blame to manipulate behaviors.
  • Cutting Off and Distancing: Abandoning the relationship without reasonable dialogue.

The Avoidance of Biblical Conflict Resolution

These individuals often avoid following biblical principles of reconciliation. Galatians 6:1 states, “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.” Similarly, Matthew 18:15 instructs believers to “go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone.” However, manipulative individuals frequently bypass these principles.

Instead of seeking resolution, they prefer indirect control through avoidance, gossip, or attempts to damage reputations. Their unwillingness to engage in one-on-one conversation reveals a deeper desire to maintain power rather than pursue peace.

The Spirit of Control and Self-Pity

Often, manipulative behavior is rooted in unresolved self-pity and fear. Rather than acknowledging their own shortcomings, these individuals project blame onto others. They thrive on keeping others emotionally tethered through confusion and guilt. The constant need to win at any cost stems from a fear of vulnerability and a refusal to engage in honest reflection.

Their avoidance of confrontation ensures they are never held accountable. Unlike those who operate in humility and truth, they manipulate others through calculated silence, passive-aggressive behavior, and the withholding of affection. Whether in family, business, or personal relationships, this behavior is destructive and deeply unkind.

Recognizing the Spirit of Control

It is crucial to discern when a person is operating from a spirit of control rather than seeking authentic resolution. Jesus modeled a life of truth, grace, and peacemaking, but He did not yield to manipulative demands. Instead, He maintained boundaries and chose the path of obedience to God.

Galatians 5:1 reminds us, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” True freedom in Christ means living without the oppressive weight of someone else’s manipulative control.

Responding with Wisdom and Boundaries

  1. Stay Rooted in Peace: Romans 12:18 says, “If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.” Continue to model peace, but accept that some may reject it.

 

  1. Establish Boundaries: Proverbs 4:23 urges, “Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.” Boundaries protect your heart and mind from emotional manipulation.

 

  1. Refuse to Engage in Power Struggles: Like Jesus before Pilate (John 19:9-11), sometimes the most powerful response is remaining silent and not giving control over your emotions.

 

  1. Seek Support and Wise Counsel: Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 emphasizes the importance of supportive relationships. Find godly counsel and accountability to maintain strength.

Pray for Healing: Pray for those who operate through control. Matthew 5:44 reminds us to “love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.”

Conclusion

While you may encounter people who are “for war” despite your peaceful intentions, remember that your worth and identity are not defined by their actions. Continue to pursue peace, uphold boundaries, and trust God to bring healing and justice in His timing. The call to reason together remains, but not all will accept it. In those moments, rest in the knowledge that God sees your heart and honors your pursuit of reconciliation.

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JESUS NARROW WAY VS RELIGIOUS, NARROW MINDED AND LEGALISTIC

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Jesus’ Narrow Way vs Being Religious,

Narrow-Minded and Legalistic

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Jesus taught about the Narrow Way in Matthew 7:13-14:

Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”

This passage has often been misinterpreted to justify narrow-mindedness, harsh judgment, and legalistic behavior. However, Jesus’ teaching is not about adopting a hyper-religious, puritanical mindset. Instead, it’s a call to live a life of humility, love, and sincere devotion to God, rejecting the broad path of selfishness, sin, and pride.

Let’s explore the clear differences between walking in Jesus’ Narrow Way and falling into the traps of narrow-minded, legalistic, or religiously rigid thinking.

1. Jesus’ Narrow Way: A Path of Heart Transformation

Focuses on Relationship with God:

The Narrow Way is about cultivating a personal, ongoing relationship with Jesus Christ.

It emphasizes surrendering to God’s will, relying on His grace, and bearing spiritual fruit (Galatians 5:22-23).

Leads to Inner Transformation:

Walking in the Narrow Way is about allowing God to transform our hearts, minds, and actions.

This results in a life marked by love, humility, and forgiveness (Romans 12:2).

Promotes Spiritual Maturity:

The Narrow Way teaches discernment, wisdom, and the ability to grow from correction without condemnation.

It values seeking God’s truth above personal opinions or traditions.

Is Centered on Grace:

Jesus’ Way is not about perfection or proving righteousness but accepting His grace.

It acknowledges human frailty while pointing to God’s mercy and restoration.

2. Being Narrow-Minded: Fearful and Unyielding

Closed to New Wisdom:

Narrow-mindedness refuses to listen, learn, or grow.

It often rejects correction or opposing perspectives, even when they are rooted in biblical truth.

Motivated by Fear:

Rather than walking in faith, a narrow-minded person may operate from fear of change, fear of others, or fear of losing control.

Lacks Discernment:

Narrow-minded individuals may struggle to distinguish between cultural preferences and true biblical principles.

They resist anything unfamiliar, even if it aligns with God’s Word.

3. Legalism: Rules Over Relationship

External Focus:

Legalism emphasizes outward appearances, behaviors, and rule-keeping over the condition of the heart.

Critical and Judgmental:

Legalistic people tend to harshly judge others, often elevating minor issues to the level of essential doctrine.

They may neglect compassion, mercy, and the spirit of the law (Matthew 23:23).

Lacks Joy and Freedom:

Legalism results in burdensome religious practices devoid of joy and authentic connection with God.

Rejects Grace:

Instead of relying on the finished work of Christ, legalists often strive to earn righteousness through good works.

4. Religious Spirit: Performing Without Purpose

Focuses on Image Management:

A religious spirit prioritizes looking spiritually impressive to others while ignoring personal inner struggles.

Lacks Genuine Love:

Actions are often motivated by pride, duty, or fear rather than a sincere desire to serve God and others.

Resists the Holy Spirit:

Those with a religious spirit may reject the leading of the Holy Spirit in favor of rigid traditions.

Promotes Hypocrisy:

Jesus rebuked religious leaders who appeared righteous on the outside but were corrupt within (Matthew 23:27).

5. The Balanced Walk: Pursuing the Narrow Way with Grace and Humility

Teachable Spirit:

Jesus’ followers remain open to correction, learning, and growth.

They test everything against Scripture and rely on the Holy Spirit for wisdom (James 3:17).

Walking in Love:

Genuine love for God and others is the hallmark of those walking the Narrow Way.

Love covers offenses, pursues(relationship) reconciliation, and values people over opinions.

Living by Grace and Truth:

Jesus was full of both grace and truth (John 1:14). His followers are called to uphold truth while extending grace to others.

Seeking God’s Kingdom First:

The primary goal is to glorify God and reflect His character, rather than seeking to prove one’s own righteousness.

Conclusion

Walking the Narrow Way is not about legalism, judgment, or being afraid of new insights. It is about humbly pursuing God with sincerity, allowing Him to shape our hearts. Unlike the burdens of legalism and narrow-mindedness, the Narrow Way is a path of freedom, joy, and growing intimacy with Christ.

“Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” (Matthew 11:29-30)

Choosing the Narrow Way means surrendering to God’s will, extending grace to others, and walking in the power of His Spirit. It’s a journey that leads to true life, both now and for eternity.

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2003 SERIES PART 3 ARE YOU SUBMITTED? CHURCH HOPPING + “WE ARE RIGHT” LOCAL RELIGIOUS RULES

MINISTRY AI AND I
 2023 SERIES

  ARE YOU SUBMITTED?

PART 3 CHURCH HOPPING

+ “WE ARE RIGHT” LOCAL RELIGIOUS RULES

“RELATIONSHIP DISRESPECT??”

CHURCH HISTORY: From “house to house” to “church to church” to”preacher’s turf”   to  rival “preacher’s turf” now  more like …well off established “Firm” to “Firm”..and even 

Mega Cult Famous Name Witch Watching System‘ to  ‘FNWW System”

and  if we don’t go First ….JESUS REALLY COMES ……


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Around the Governing USA Local Regions, THESE STYLE of “HOPEFUL CHRISTIAN MINISTERS” …and each one of their devout, trusted members…are  suspecting , watching and clucking their tongues ASKING:

“ARE YOU, I + ALL THEM SUBMITTED?”

However, not a Pauline stance, for he resolutely voiced

“I determined not to know anything about anybody, but only Christ, and Him Crucified”

Context from Part 2: Taveau Addresses Local Authority and the Early Church

As previously noted in Part 2: Are You Submitted? JESUS AND SUBMISSION, historical records and biblical study indicate that the concept of authoritarian leadership within the First Church only fully emerged after Christ’s death and resurrection. Over time, Roman and Hellenistic influences infiltrated what was originally an Ephesians 5:21 modela mutual submission in the holy fear of the Lord. This shift led to hierarchical structures and the eventual rise of the fivefold offices as positions of governance rather than simply gifts of service.


Sister Taveau states
Church attending, Hebrews 10:25 “fellowship with the saints” be they great or small is about “

A Christian saved bunch of relationships” And it’s the ‘ability to trust’ and to “feel respect” that draws us back, year after year.

Main Point: It’s ‘how” we act, together and apart that makes it work, that  makes a community, a cult, and/or a life enhancing ‘ gift from the Most high God’

Therefore it is the Christ Following many kinds of “human” kind RELATIONSHIPS we need to respect, enhance, edify, comfort strengthen, before the eyes of God and Man

Ephesians 4 Apostle Paul, in fact all of the Book of Ephesians, and every epistle and chapter and Book in the Old Testament and New, is ‘some form of  Abiding RELATIONSHIPS (God and man, people with with other people, family, marriage, neighbors, church and far more.

The Power of Relationships: Building Community or Cultivating Control

FAITH IN GOD, IN PRIVATE, IN PUBLIC “REAL LIFE”, IN WINNING MONEY, IN FATIGUING HUMAN PERSONS, IN LIFE SAVE COMMUNITY OR DEATH FILLED DYSFUNCTION

And it is how “we” each respect  and act (and also how we react), however  only Christ was perfect in this but we can began again..to improve

—both together and apart—that determines the outcome. Our choices shape whether we build a thriving community, a controlling cult, or a life-giving fellowship blessed by the Most High God.

Starting with Genesis 1-2 “prior to the Fall” it was designed, called ONLY and ALL  to be about humble, thriving, family feel sort of RELATIONSHIPS

At the heart of it all now, even with the human fallen nature,with Christ’s help there  are “intentional divine ” area relationships—the foundation upon which God’s kingdom operates. These connections must be:

  • Respected with honor and integrity.
  • Enhanced through love and wisdom.
  • Edified by encouragement and truth.
  • Strengthened in humility and mutual submission.
  • Comforting in times of need, reflecting Christ’s heart.

Before both God and man, it is our relationships—not mere religious systems—that testify to the authenticity of our faith.

The Bible: A Blueprint for Abiding Relationships

From Genesis to Revelation, Scripture is a continuous revelation of relationships:

  • God and mankind—from Adam to Christ’s redemptive work.
  • People with people—friendships, families, and nations.
  • Marriage—as a divine covenant reflecting Christ and the Church.
  • Neighbors—as those we are called to love as ourselves.
  • The Church—a body meant for unity, not division.

Apostle Paul, especially in Ephesians 4, emphasizes the call to unity and maturity in Christ, urging believers to walk in love, humility, and the bond of peace. Every epistle, every Old and New Testament passage, ultimately points to God’s design for relationship—built on love, truth, and abiding in Him.

The question we must ask ourselves is this: Are our relationships reflecting the heart of God, or are they shaped by control, division, and self-interest? Let us build with wisdom, always keeping Christ at the center.

Setting the Stage: Styles of Christian Ministry

Each God-formed individual is unique. Some believers choose to fully commit to a local church, while others remain independent in their walk with Christ. Both approaches have valid reasoning. Some seek structure, accountability, and deep community, while others have experienced spiritual control, manipulation, or even abuse and, as a result, are cautious about formal membership. Still, there are those who may be immature in their faith, flighty in their commitments, or in need of wise counsel and stability.

However, let it be said clearly:

Not everyone is “identical” (take the Myers Briggs Personality Test) Therefore not EVERY HUMAN BEING is called to be a “club member” or “fan” of a specific ministry culture. Church leaders must train their staff, elders, and leadership teams to respect all believers equally—not just those who conform to their preferred structures.

Dr. T also acknowledges that there happes to be ONE MORE new wave of free thinkers, organic innovators, and non-traditional believers is emerging within the Body of Christ. These individuals may not fit within conventional church models, yet they deeply love God and seek authentic community. For those who desire to build bridges across different ministry styles, let’s move forward in unity. For those who do not, that is also acceptable.

The Ministry “Member of The Firm” vs. A Spirit-Led Pilgrim

For some believers, church membership feels like being part of a stable, well-ordered “firm”—a place of predictable rhythms and structured belonging, much like an aged cask of fine wine. Others, however, experience spiritual claustrophobia in highly structured ministries. When leadership becomes excessively rigid, hierarchical, and bound by perfectionism, some may feel a divine leading to step away—not in rebellion, but in obedience to the Holy Spirit’s direction.

These individuals, whom I sometimes call “Pilgrims of the Spirit,” are not to be dismissed as backsliders or rebels. Many are simply responding to God’s unique call on their lives. This is why spiritual freedom must be respected. If God grants someone the liberty to move on, who are we to override His leading?

Apostle Taveau Makes a Great Point
Plus, St Paul warns of dangerous
spiritual climates in 2 Timothy 3:1-6 and 1 Timothy 6:5,(now) cautioning believers to discern and sometimes flee toxic ministries. Likewise, some of us, through prayer and sensitivity to the Spirit, may be instructed to separate ourselves from certain movements or organizations.

Why is the list in each Bible verse a real “warning?” Because hurt, scar, use, abuse and defile many “RELATIONSHIPS” (real persons, not statistics, or bodies warming the pews)

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Taveau asks Chat GPT

Purposes: just to cause controversy YES. BUT ALSO to relieve, to put a stop to word cursing,  the general Ole Boy accusing, Big Boss, undying local area, metrox, rural, suburban and urban BIG BOSS “CONDEMNATION

Let asks Chat GPT AI if ” Bible Thumping the Church Hopper” is Bible Scripture supported

Pastor Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

“Is it true that the Bible suggests going to a local church? If it does,  is there any scripture, any First Church apostolic teaching ‘commanding” taht ‘you must join’?

And did they watch for church hoppers, accuse them in the First Church?”

Chat GPT says:

The Bible does emphasize the importance of belonging to a local church community, actively participating, and submitting to the leadership and teachings of that community (Hebrews 10:24-25, 1 Peter 5:5). Being committed and connected to a specific local church provides accountability, spiritual growth, and deeper relationships within the community of believers. And does the Bible prohibit, command against, “going to more than one church?

(Implied : It is not a legalism to fellowship in more than one church) Chat AI: there can be valid reasons for attending multiple churches, such as seeking spiritual nourishment, addressing specific needs, or participating in different ministries. As long as there is a genuine desire to grow in faith and remain rooted in a Christian community, attending multiple churches may be acceptable. It becomes problematic only if it reflects a lack of commitment, spiritual restlessness, or a refusal to engage in genuine fellowship and discipleship.

In conclusion, the practice of meeting house to house in the early church reflected a close-knit community and shared commitment. Today, attending multiple churches can have different motivations and implications. While being connected to a local church is encouraged, attending multiple churches is not inherently sinful as long as it is done with the right motives and does not undermine the importance of commitment, submission, and genuine fellowship within a Christian community

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MAKING A MAJOR POINT

 LOCAL ACCUSATION OF NORMAL EVERYDAY PEOPLE (“relationships under friendly fire”) for attending MORE THAN ONE Church

A prevailing false teaching has infiltrated both large and smaller local  ministries, and many small-town congregations, subtly embedding itself into Christian culture. This doctrine enables accusations against individuals without direct conversation or biblical due process. It affects everyday believers—those simply seeking to follow Christ—by branding them as disloyal, rebellious, or “church hoppers.”

This issue is not merely theoretical; it is an ongoing reality. It stems from a historical yet presently accepted Christian tradition that distorts biblical principles. While this writing does not delve into every demonic aberration that an inexperienced believer might face, it seeks to defrag the local accusation culture—making the church a safer space for genuine Christ-followers who are simply trying to live out their faith.

House to House vs. Multiple Churches: A Biblical Perspective

PASTOR TAVEAU ASKS CHAT AI:

“In the First Church, believers met ‘house to house.’ How does that compare to attending more than one church today? Was it considered a sin back then? A sign of being unsubmitted? Not in spiritual order?

Chat GPT  RESPONDS:

In the early Christian church, believers often met in homes for worship and fellowship. Acts 2:46 describes how they “broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts.” Similarly, Acts 20:20 mentions that Paul taught “from house to house.” These gatherings were marked by close-knit community, spiritual unity, and mutual edification.

Attending multiple gatherings then vs. now:

  • In the First Church, “house to house” was not about visiting multiple denominations but rather the common way believers assembled. The early church did not have centralized buildings or hierarchical control over where individuals worshiped.
  • Today, attending multiple churches can serve various purposes: seeking diverse teaching, finding a safe spiritual environment, or simply exploring different expressions of faith. However, modern ministry culture—especially in certain charismatic, authoritarian, or patriarchal circles—often misinterprets this freedom as a lack of commitment, rebellion, or being “out of order.”

Why This Matters Now

Many modern ministry leaders—particularly those influenced by decades of Christian TV, media-driven celebrity  and contentious local area competive (mostly their private turf, fiercely guarding) local pastors,elder also lay and stern controlling “you must obey”  hierarchical control structures—have adopted a combined,  adversarial mindset toward believers who “move between churches”(TD says Minding their Business Church Hopping)

. This has led to ministry elite authoritarian (Not relationship respectful) condemning, hard line, fear-based legalistic “business minding ” (which I have seen in action and lived among that for a while

It is elite, it Bible stomps, name calls, starts many Jezebel rumors and more. It bears false witness as it will NOT RESPECT (I John 1:7″won’t walk in the light” is not submitted God’s whole counsel,  Galatians 6:1 and GET TO KNOW the “human persons” for it it elite, autocratic and poor me false witness, accusing, suspecting monitoring Pharieeism Big Shot-ism. It is not respectful, humble Good Neighbor Ephesians 4  as it is “the all knowing Boss” (Big I, Little you)

Season of Change

Pastor Taveau has witnessed this firsthand among grassroots, everyday believers—especially since celebrity ministry culture has taken root, emphasizing large followings, power structures, and control over God’s people rather than servant leadership.

Also, this is precisely why CROSS BODY UNITY (www.crossbodyunity.com) exists: to “Relationship Respect” the common persons…also to challenge these false narratives, empower believers to follow the Holy Spirit freely, and confront doctrines that distort biblical submission into authoritarian control.

JUST TO DIG OUT ANY”RELATIONISHIP ACCUSING” BIG  LEGALISM

Taveau asks ChatGPT

Is there a First Church New Testament, Christian Apostles submission law that is legalistic about the following

  • Going to church?
  • Joining a church?
  • Attending every meeting?
  • Attending more than one church?
  • Tithing?
  • Tithing to only one ministry?
  • Any other similar requirement?

And, do any local persons, ministers, pastors, apostles, ministerial groups, brands, or denominations have authority over an individual who does not want to attend or feels led by the Holy Spirit not to go? Does their authority extend to someone who is not an official member of their ministry, brand, style, branch, or denomination?

Chat GPT  Replies

Let’s break this down using biblical principles that relate to the questions you raised:

The New Testament offers clear guidelines on Christian fellowship and submission, but it does not lay out a legalistic framework or mandate for specific practices like attending church meetings, tithing, or membership to any one ministry, denomination, or group. Instead, the overarching principles are about following the leading of the Holy Spirit, personal conviction, and voluntary commitment to the body of Christ, without coercion.

Let’s break this down using biblical principles that relate to the questions you raised:

1. Is There a Submission Law Regarding Church Attendance or Joining a Church?

While the Bible commands believers to assemble together for worship and fellowship (Hebrews 10:25), it does not specify a legalistic requirement for attending every service or joining any particular denomination or church. Submission in the Bible is rooted in voluntary, loving service to God and others, not coerced attendance or participation in ministry groups.

  • Hebrews 10:25 (KJV):
    “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
    This scripture encourages believers to meet together for mutual encouragement, especially as we approach the end times. However, it is not a command to attend every meeting or church activity if the person feels led by the Spirit to engage elsewhere.

  • Ephesians 4:11-12 (KJV):
    “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.”
    The gifts of leadership in the church are meant to edify and equip believers, but nowhere does this passage require obedience to human authority in such a way that prevents the Holy Spirit’s direction.

2. Is There a Requirement to Attend More Than One Church?

There is no biblical requirement to attend multiple churches. However, some Christians choose to engage with different churches to experience a broader fellowship, understand different perspectives, or meet their spiritual needs. It becomes problematic when this leads to lack of commitment or fragmented spiritual growth.

  • 1 Corinthians 1:10 (KJV):
    “Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.”
    Division within the body of Christ, such as attending too many churches without commitment to one, may hinder unity and growth in the local body. However, this is not a legalistic rule but a call for spiritual maturity and unity in purpose.

ASIDE : THERE IMUCH RELATIONSHIP ACCUSATION ALSO REGARDING TITHES
3.
Is Tithing a Legalistic Requirement?

The Bible mentions tithing as a principle of giving to God, but it does not impose it as a legalistic requirement in the New Testament age. In the Old Testament, tithing was part of the Mosaic Law, but in the New Testament, believers are encouraged to give generously and cheerfully based on their heart’s motivation, not out of obligation or fear.

  • 2 Corinthians 9:7 (KJV):
    “Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.”
    This principle emphasizes that giving is about personal conviction and freedom, not legalistic mandates.

  • Malachi 3:10 (KJV):
    “Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.”
    While this Old Testament passage encourages tithing, it is not a New Testament commandment. The principle of generosity and faithfulness to God is important, but the practice of tithing is not a binding law for Christians today.

4. Is Tithing to Only One Ministry Required?

There is no biblical requirement to tithe exclusively to one ministry or church. Believers are encouraged to give where they are spiritually fed, but how and where they give is ultimately between them and God.

  • Galatians 6:6 (KJV):
    “Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.”
    This verse suggests that those who are spiritually fed should share in supporting the ministry and those who teach them. However, the Bible does not restrict giving to a single ministry or mandate that believers must tithe only to the place they are officially “members” of.

DR T’S DOCTRINAL, ALSO MINISTRY AND A PERSONAL POINT:

Mostly Occult witch watching Pharisee, LP, Apostles in the Gates of the City, Cult spirit, WELP, CI, many similar other)

Does a Certain Individual Minister or Sr Pastor, or Apostle, Prophet Have “governing authority” Over YOU without YOUR being told that? MEANS and IF if You Are Not an (signed up) Official Member of Their Ministry? 

Chat GPT AI replies
In the New Testament, authority is described as servant leadership, not authoritarian rule. The apostles, pastors, and leaders are entrusted with guiding, teaching, and equipping believers, but they do not hold absolute authority over believers if the believer is not led by God to be part of their congregation or ministry.

  • 1 Peter 5:2-3 (KJV):
    “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being examples to the flock.”
    Leaders are to serve and lead by example, not with a heavy hand of control. No pastor, minister, or apostle has the right to dictate where an individual should attend church or serve if they are being led by the Holy Spirit elsewhere.

  • Romans 14:4 (KJV):
    “Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.”
    This passage reminds us that believers belong to God, not to any human leader. Judging or controlling others‘ choices regarding church attendance or ministry involvement is not the role of any earthly authority.

6. The Holy Spirit’s Leading vs. Man’s Authority

The Holy Spirit leads believers into the right places and decisions, and individuals must discern God’s will. If someone feels led by the Holy Spirit not to attend a specific ministry or to leave a congregation, they are not under human authority in the sense of being forced or controlled.

  • Acts 13:2-3 (KJV):
    “As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.”
    The Holy Spirit led the early church to send out Barnabas and Saul (Paul) for a specific mission. Believers today are still led by the Holy Spirit, and their involvement in ministry should be based on God’s leading rather than coercive authority from human leaders.

Conclusion:

The Bible does not impose legalistic rules about church attendance, membership, or tithing in a specific ministry. While there is an emphasis on commitment to the body of Christ and the importance of giving, each believer is ultimately responsible for discerning God’s leading in their lives.

Leaders are called to serve and guide but not to impose unbiblical authority over individuals who are not members of their ministry. A believer’s responsibility is to follow the Holy Spirit’s guidance, making decisions prayerfully and with a heart aligned with God’s will.

TD Calls it out as Area Presumptive Controlling Authoritarianism (PS USE OF FALSE AUTHORITY, CONTROL AND MEGA, MICRO ABUSE) (mostly DIVINING, DEEP SCANNING WITCHCRAFT OCCULT)


She asks Chat GPT to address:

Chat GPT AI answers

To clarify, there is no specific “law” in the Bible that mandates believers must attend a particular church or be “covered” by a local pastor in the strict sense of a legal requirement. The early church was more focused on communal fellowship, the sharing of the gospel, and spiritual growth, rather than adhering to structured, institutional rules about church membership.

That said, the Bible does strongly encourage believers to be part of a local Christian community for mutual encouragement, accountability, and growth in faith (Hebrews 10:24-25). However, this is not a “law” (TD Says, means it’s NOT GOSSIP FODDER OR ACCUSABLE)or commandment in the same way that certain Old Testament laws were binding. Rather, it’s a biblical principle for healthy spiritual life and community.

In the early church (First Church), the focus was on discipleship, fellowship, and spiritual commitment. They often met “house to house” (Acts 2:46), and the idea of being “covered” by a local pastor or leader wasn’t as formalized as it may be in many modern church structures. The New Testament emphasizes following the leadership of spiritual elders and submitting to those who teach and guide in the faith (1 Peter 5:5), but this submission was more about mutual respect and guidance in the Lord rather than a legalistic covering or requirement.

So, there’s no conflict in saying that while being part of a community and under spiritual leadership is encouraged, there was no strict, binding law requiring the exact structure we see in many churches today. The essence is about spiritual connection, growth, and mutual support, rather than rigid institutional rules.

Apostolic Taveau Discusses and asks CHAT GPT about the following
Discuss differences in ‘fellowship” as in an” alone individual person fellowshipping privately with the Lord”…. VERSUS “ 2-3 .a small group fellowship”  VERSUS  a larger corporate meeting, even a MEGA MINISTRY

Taveau says: There is a distinct difference between personal fellowship with the Lord and the corporate anointing that comes through gathering in a fellowship group. Both have their place and purpose in a believer’s life.Please expound:]

Chat GPT states:

Personal Fellowship: Encountering God Alone

Scripture shows that Jesus often withdrew to solitary places to pray (Luke 5:16). Isaiah 56:7 speaks of the Lord bringing His people to His holy mountain, a place of personal communion, peace, and divine revelation. This illustrates how personal time with God allows for clarity, peace, and revelation downloads that shape an individual’s walk with Christ.

Corporate Worship: The Power of Gathering Together

On the other hand, corporate gatherings carry a unique anointing. Hebrews 10:25 exhorts believers not to forsake assembling together because fellowship strengthens, edifies, and invites God’s commanded blessing (Psalm 133:1-3).

Matthew 18:20 assures that where two or three gather in His name, He is there among them. This collective anointing brings unity, encouragement, and the outpouring of spiritual gifts that one may not experience alone.

Pastor Taveau makes a point:
“If Matthew 18:20 teaches that where 2-3 are gathered in His Name, that He is “there” and may many people prefer that as opposed to a  large more formal fellowship. Due to the big Christian ministry dysfunction the USA primary “turf guarding, accusing religious systems” plus “from such turn away Perilous Times NOW: 2 Timothy 3:1-8, 1 Timothy 6:5

Then (to aide the pure hearted among these pastors in their training of their Ismael Mixture: Dr T inquires in irony”

So if 2-3 are gathered in His Name, and HE is THERE….

…THEN Where Do these Dysfunctional, Flee From Fierce Fellowship and their False Religion, Manipulation, and Control Come from?

Before Chat GPT responds; I say ….”the answer is SIMPLE in on every one of us, even the leaders” and Bible teaching and repentance will cure it”

But now ChatGPT continues

CHAT GPT states
If Christ is present
where two or three are gathered in His name, then why do we see false religion, witch-watching, mind-reading, pressure for funds, backbiting, and control infiltrating some church groups? The answer lies in the human heart and the influence of man-made traditions and spiritual corruption.

  • False religion arises when rituals and rules replace genuine relationship with Christ (Mark 7:6-7).
  • Witch-watching and mind-reading occur when leaders or congregants assume supernatural insight into others’ lives without true discernment from the Holy Spirit, often leading to fear and control.
  • Pressure for funds emerges when monetary gain outweighs true ministry, contradicting the principle of cheerful giving (2 Corinthians 9:7).
  • Backbiting and control stem from spiritual pride, insecurity, or a desire for dominance, leading to Pharisaical judgment rather than Christ-like love (Galatians 5:15).

LAST CALL: THE PURE CALL TO BIBLE TEACH WHAT IS RIGHT

1. The Call to Discernment

True, Spirit-led gatherings should reflect Christ’s character—marked by humility, love, and mutual edification (Ephesians 4:2-3). When human agendas, fear tactics, or manipulative leadership take precedence, the gathering shifts away from God’s intended purpose.

Thus, believers must remain discerning and rooted in the Word, ensuring that whether they meet alone with God or in a corporate setting, their focus remains on Christ, His truth, and His love—not on external pressures, traditions, or manipulative influences.

2. Preach  Paul’s Freedom in Christ vs. Legalistic Practices

In Philippians 2:12, Paul encourages believers to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” This highlights the personal relationship each believer has with God—meaning each person has the freedom to hear from God individually, guided by the Holy Spirit, and make decisions about their faith journey. This aligns with the idea of personal freedom and responsibility in one’s relationship with God.

However, in a community of believers, there is also a biblical expectation of mutual submission, humility, and accountability (Ephesians 5:21). But this submission is not about coercion or control, but rather about voluntary, Christ-like service to one another. So, the balance between personal freedom and the need for community is important.

3. The Issue with Legalistic Shepherding and “Apostles”

Dr Taveau, you seem to be describing a type of “shepherding movement” or “Levitical Patriarchism” (LP), where there is an emphasis on hierarchical structures, authoritative control, and judgment over individual choices. In these systems, people are often told they must be “submitted” to a local pastor or apostle, and if they’re not, they are labeled as rebellious, undisciplined, or spiritually “out of order.” There are rumors, accusations, and harsh judgments passed on people who don’t fit into the established mold, all in the name of maintaining authority and purity within the church.

These movements, often found within the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), can sometimes create environments of spiritual control and fear. This is where the “Pharisaical” mindset you mentioned becomes problematic. It’s a form of controlling religion that prioritizes man-made rules, titles, and authority over the gospel’s call to love, freedom, and personal relationship with God.

Taveau asks Chat GPT
What Might Be a Future Church (Generation Now)Teaching of ” What Is Right?

Chat GPT replies:

  1. Personal Responsibility: Scripture emphasizes that believers should work out their own salvation and seek God’s will individually (Philippians 2:12). This doesn’t mean that we reject community or leadership, but that each person must remain rooted in Christ and be discerning in following any spiritual leadership, including pastors or apostles.

  2. Submission in Community: While there is mutual submission in the Christian community (Ephesians 5:21), it is never meant to be coercive or authoritarian. The biblical example is one of servant leadership, not control (Matthew 20:25-28). No leader, whether a pastor or apostle, has the right to demand blind submission or to manipulate or control others. Leaders should be models of humility and service, guiding with love, not domination.

  3. Guard Against Rumors and Gossip: The Bible is clear about the harm of gossip and judgment. 1 Timothy 5:19-20 speaks about handling accusations against elders with care, and Matthew 18:15-17 provides the process for addressing grievances in a biblical manner—starting with a private conversation and escalating only if necessary. The type of “name-calling” and public accusation you’re describing seems to violate these principles.

  4. Healthy Discipleship: A healthy church is one where people are encouraged to hear from God for themselves, to grow in their faith, and to serve others with humility and love. While it’s important to be connected to a local church, it’s even more critical that this connection is based on mutual respect, encouragement, and a shared vision of the gospel, rather than fear or manipulation.

  5. Conclusion OFFICE MATURE “REAL RELATIONSHIP” RESPECT

The “freedom” in Christ is about following the Holy Spirit, discerning God’s will for yourself, and being part of a community that encourages growth and accountability in love. The legalistic structures you’ve described, where people are accused, controlled, and manipulated into submission, are not reflective of the gospel. They are a distortion of biblical principles and often resemble the “Pharisaical” spirit that Jesus warned against—focusing on outward appearance and control rather than inner transformation and genuine relationship with God.

Teach the truth that God values freedom in Him, mutual submission in love, and personal responsibility in hearing His voice. Encourage a church community where leaders model Christ’s humility and where people are free to grow, serve, and be discipled, not coerced or manipulated into a false sense of submission.

TAVEAU ASKS AI:

Q. “Have you ever heard of the term ‘church hopping’?”

AI Response:
Yes, I am familiar with the term “church hopping.” It refers to the practice of frequently changing or attending different churches without establishing long-term commitment to any particular congregation. Church hopping can involve visiting various churches regularly, often driven by a desire to experience different worship styles, teachings, or community dynamics.

While church hopping can have some positive aspects—such as exploring spiritual diversity, meeting various communities, and addressing specific needs—it can also have negative consequences, including lack of commitment, superficial engagement, and a fragmented spiritual journey. It is important to consider the motives behind church hopping. If done with a genuine desire to grow spiritually and engage in community, it may be beneficial. However, if done out of restlessness or a consumeristic mindset, it can hinder deep discipleship and accountability.

Ultimately, the goal is to find a church where you can actively participate, grow in faith, and contribute to the community, fostering long-term relationships and shared responsibility.

BONUS

TAVEAU’S BOTTOM LINE PERSPECTIVE  on 40 years of ongoing  Pharisee

“CHURCH HOPPING” – THE TCL, CROSS BODY UNITY PERSPECTIVE

  1. It’s nobody’s business unless individuals are being rude, disorderly, or engaging in mischief.
  2. I wouldn’t have gotten so stirred up about this topic if I hadn’t Luke Eye witnessed  it so much. (since 1980s) And also been personally aggressed it for now reason (no relationship, they just peered into my “mind”..POINT These accusations often came from those who did not know the full context of why people might be attending multiple churches.
  3. From my experience, this issue tends to be prevalent in show biz effected, bitter but trying hard mostly fundraising  charismatic communities where they are into “themselves, their gift, their turf, their business ministry success” but are not ‘servant leader” RELATIONSHIP ORIENTED (more on being blessed and ambitious, “winning” (I am not OF these but I am PRO the humans)

THE CROSS BODY UNITY (CBU) APPROACH:

Traditional Pastor Respect with Freedom and Balance

As believers, we are encouraged to fellowship in the church that God sends us to (Hebrews 10:25). However, if the church you are attending is a dysfunctional ministry—one that is operating in a way that is harmful or abusive—then leave. Paul gives clear guidance on this in 2 Timothy 3:1-5 and 1 Timothy 6:5. But this is not about leaving because of being critical, upset, or fault-finding. You should only leave after:

  • You’ve prayed, forgiven, and tried to stay committed.
  • You’ve attempted to confront the situation face to face (Matthew 18:15-17).
  • The negative fruit of the ministry is harming you or your family—whether that’s affecting your children, marriage, health, or overall well-being.
  • Then—and only then—flee to a more normal fellowship that aligns with your spiritual well-being.

When seeking a church, remember that it’s essential to:

  • Go where God leads you.
  • Commit, be faithful, serve, and support the body of Christ.
  • Remain there as long as God sends you.

In conclusion, “church hopping” isn’t inherently wrong, but it’s important to approach it with discernment and a heart for genuine spiritual growth and community. The goal is to find a place where you can commit and build deep, lasting relationships, and where you can grow in faith and service to others. If you’re in a situation that is spiritually unhealthy, God may lead you elsewhere, but this decision should come after prayer, healing, and honest confrontation.

! Below are the relevant KJV Bible Scriptures that support the points about church commitment, church hopping, and the idea of leaving a dysfunctional ministry, as well as the principle of obedience to God’s leading

1. Fellowship in a Church God Sends You To

  • Hebrews 10:25:
    “Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”
    This verse stresses the importance of gathering together with other believers in a local church for mutual encouragement. It reminds us that church fellowship is vital for our spiritual growth and strength.

2. Commitment and Service in the Local Church

  • Romans 12:4-5:
    “For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.”
    This passage emphasizes the idea of being part of a unified body (the church) where each person has a specific role to play. Commitment and service within a local church are essential to the health and growth of the church body as a whole.

  • 1 Corinthians 12:12-14:
    “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many.”
    The metaphor of the body of Christ teaches us that each believer is a part of the whole body, and commitment to this community is necessary to fully contribute to the work of God.

3. If the Ministry is Dysfunctional, Leave After Prayer, Confrontation, and Exhausting Efforts

  • 2 Timothy 3:1-5:
    “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
    Paul’s warning here is about dysfunctional ministries that operate under a false godliness. When you recognize this kind of behavior, Paul commands to turn away from them. You should leave a ministry that is abusive, toxic, or manipulative.

  • 1 Timothy 6:5:
    “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”
    This verse reinforces the idea that if a ministry becomes perverse, corrupt, and focused on gain rather than truth and the gospel, it is appropriate to withdraw from that ministry.

4. Confronting and Seeking Reconciliation Before Leaving

  • Matthew 18:15-17:
    “Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.”
    This passage encourages confrontation and reconciliation before making any decisions to leave or break fellowship. Private efforts to resolve issues should always come first. If the conflict remains unresolved, bring others in for accountability, and only then take further action.

5. Only Leave When You Are Directed by God

  • Acts 16:6-10:
    “Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not. And they passing by Mysia came down to Troas. And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them.”
    This passage shows Paul’s obedience to the leading of the Holy Spirit in determining where to minister. If God is leading you to a particular church or fellowship, follow His direction with faith, trusting that He will guide your steps.

  • Romans 8:14:
    “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.”
    Following the Holy Spirit’s guidance is key in all decisions, including where to fellowship and when to leave. It is essential that God directs you to the place where you can thrive spiritually, and He will make it clear when it’s time to move.

6. When God Leads, Commit, Serve, and Stay

  • Psalm 92:13:
    “Those that be planted in the house of the Lord shall flourish in the courts of our God.”
    This passage stresses the importance of being planted in a local church. When you are committed and rooted in the right place, you will grow spiritually and flourish.

  • Colossians 3:23-24:
    “And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.”
    Whether serving in the local church or in other areas of ministry, doing it with a heart for God is paramount. Commitment to the work of the church is part of serving God with your whole heart.

Summary

  1. Fellowship in a church is essential for spiritual growth (Hebrews 10:25, Romans 12:4-5).
  2. Commitment to a church body is important, and we are called to serve (1 Corinthians 12:12-14).
  3. Leave dysfunctional ministries only after prayer and confrontation, not out of bitterness or fault-finding (2 Timothy 3:1-5, 1 Timothy 6:5).
  4. Confrontation and reconciliation should precede leaving (Matthew 18:15-17).
  5. Follow God’s leading in finding a church and committing to it (Acts 16:6-10, Romans 8:14).
  6. Stay committed to where God has placed you, serving faithfully (Psalm 92:13, Colossians 3:23-24).

Pastor T submits it all as a Body of Chris Selah.
Pleae Pause, reflect, and seek the Lord for yourself (Not going to be any of MY Business)

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STIRRING UP THESE LEGALISTIC HORNETS please choice to say a PRAYER,  many thanks!

 

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2023 AI AND I SERIES: PART 2 ARE YOU SUBMITTED? JESUS AND SUBMISSION

Rated BR (Binge Reading) But surely worthy!
So let the Lord tell you when, if!

Taveau D’Arcy Creative Leadership, IFFM Mentoring, DFW Leader Ministry Fellowship,EORR Cross Body Unity New Ministry Viewpoint

The Ministry Apostolic Whole  Body of Christ Views Submitted as Selah in Philippians 2:12, not dogma

Note: This  series was first posted on June 13, 2023 NOTE the AI Policies have just been updated at the top.

Note: My TCL (“Use of AI” statement at the top of most TCL ministry websites) is to avoid any accusations regarding AI use in the future.

And for anyone’s record: As I have a significant lifelong history of ongoing Bible study, I purposely read over every AI answer to ensure it aligns with what I perceive to be Bible-accurate and TRUE! I am not just posting it casually for everyone to view.

BEFORE WE START: MY FIRST 2 MAIN POINTS “REAL LIFE Qs”

“MAMA, DO WE “HAVE” TO GO TO  CHURCH TODAY?

 OR…. “MAMA, DO WE “GET” TO GO TO CHURCH TODAY?

Frankly, it’s really USA Fed Up This:  if THE MAMA or DADDY or AUNT, Grandma (raising her children’s kids!) and/or SINGLE MAMA/SINGLE DAD, Divorced Parent ,gets repeatedly disrespected,biased toward,  plus don’t like to go anyway..

then the CHILDREN stay home, tuned in to their media, while Mom and Dad binge watch on Netflix…
SELAH.


That… all of THIS… is the POINT.

TD Tips: For Pastors, Elders, Leaders

FOR MORE  JOYFUL GATHERED SAINTS

Psalm 132:9
“Let thy priests be clothed with righteousness; and let thy saints shout for joy.”

Psalm 132:16
“I will also clothe her priests with salvation:and her saints shall shout aloud for joy.”

FOR FOLLOWERS, MEMBERS, SEEKERS, NEWBIE VISITORS, EXPATS,  LONE PERSONS

BE AWARE OF THE SCOWL OF FALSE (ACCUSING) DOCTRINE

The accusing, mirthless, subliminal, and overt controlling letter of the law—Phariseeism, autocratic and dominating personalities—are entrenched in wrong, false, and untrue critical teachings. These individuals continue to spy on ministries, creating division among Christians under the guise of “our kind of ministry authority.”

There is never any authentic Christlike joy (as described in Hebrews 1:9). These individuals are often undeveloped in their leadership, lacking love and a sense of humor. Together, these behaviors may serve as a “warning red flag” to new visitors, signaling potential future betrayal, backstabbing, and the spread of rumors. Dark and subtle forces, even elite white witchcraft without mercy, may be at play, all under the influence of major, top-down control.

MINISTRY AI AND I

 ARE YOU  SUBMITTED?

PART 2 JESUS AND SUBMISSION

Was the Entire First Church Ephesians 5:21 ?

 

Was Jesus a Ministry Big Boss Authoritarian? Did He Own People?  Big Boss the Little Women?

Which apostolic minister and group of specialized “office ministers” did Christ, then Paul leave OVER the rest of us (to ‘submit to?)

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TD APOSTOLIC CORE PURPOSE

TD ADDS 2025  PRIOR TO 2023 PART 2

AFTER MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF ENCOUNTERING THIS IN MAINLY charismatic ministry Levitical Patriarchism, L Matriarchism, which owns most of the Book of Acts move in gifts, worship..the many thousands upon attending thousands of national, local mega, micro and many  LP. (plus all races, many styles ministries who are into titles, hierarchy, Big Boss,however they don’t “target” “go after” hurt  people who are not in relationship with them or “UNDER THEM  (officially a member)but the WELP DO)..Hence we seek it’s(demonic,territorial and mean religious spirit)  deliverance from the Hebrews 10:25 Houses of God: (Most all of this religious accusation, defiling attacking witchcraft  legalism is “celebrity ministry connected” (not all, some like mature mega Elevation Church (note: It’s cool but NOT A WORSHIP CULT) are  NOT  LP or dark targeting sin conscious ministries (use one example, that people might confuse because of SIZE and “media celebrity APPEARING to resemble ,size) (its “doctrine, relationship respect and Christ on the Rugged Cross Top soul winning priority, also diverse BUT “gifts and talents and size matter MORE (that Sharing Jesus respectful love)

And the MAIN PURPOSE in this is to stop abuse, legalism, accusation and murder by the religious spirit which is demonic and character assassinating, reproduces much Evil Eye, Gossip and False Witness, Ruins Many a Reputation, uses witchcraft “(it resembles 2 Timothy 3:1-5 “dysfunction” which Paul says “we must flee from”

TD ASKS CHAT GPT AI

FIRST THINGS FIRST: What Was Jesus’ Main Mission Thrust?

CHAT GPT AI RESPONDS:

Jesus Christ’s mission on earth can be summarized through two core themes: love and salvation. These principles were the bedrock of His teachings, the essence of His ministry, and the fulfillment of God’s divine plan.

  1. Love: At the heart of Jesus’ ministry was the command to love. He emphasized love as the greatest commandment—love for God with all one’s heart, soul, and mind, and love for one’s neighbor as oneself. This form of love was not just a sentiment but a call to action, encompassing forgiveness, grace, and compassion for others.

  2. Salvation: Another fundamental aspect of Jesus’ message was salvation. He proclaimed Himself as the way, the truth, and the life, offering humanity the opportunity for reconciliation with God through faith in Him. Jesus taught that through His sacrificial death, humanity could be forgiven for their sins and granted eternal life with God. This path to salvation was not achieved by works alone but by faith in Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

Alongside these core themes, Jesus also addressed key issues of His time:

  • Repentance: He called people to turn away from sin and embrace righteousness.
  • Faith: Jesus emphasized the need for faith in Him as the key to eternal life.
  • Justice and Mercy: He challenged the societal norms that upheld injustice, calling for a radical love and care for the marginalized.
  • The Kingdom of God: He preached the good news of God’s kingdom, urging people to seek the kingdom and its righteousness.

In essence, Jesus’ mission was to bring God’s love and salvation to all people, calling them into a relationship with God that was characterized by love, repentance, and faith in Him.

APOSTLE TAVEAU ASKS CHAT GPT AI

Jesus used authority with His disciples, and the first church apostles did too. Please describe it in depth

Also, did Jesus model Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord,” which refers to “chain of command,” with His first 12 apostles?

AI ANSWERS:

Jesus’ Authority with His Disciples and the Apostles:

Jesus, in His earthly ministry, demonstrated both authority and servant leadership, and this pattern was also carried over by the apostles in their leadership of the early Church. Here’s a deeper exploration of the authority exhibited by Jesus and His apostles:

JESUS’ AUTHORITY

  1. Teaching Authority: Jesus’ teaching was distinctive in its authority. Unlike the scribes and Pharisees, who often quoted other teachers or traditions, Jesus spoke with direct, divine authority. He taught with clarity, power, and wisdom, presenting Himself as the ultimate revelation of God’s will. His teachings were rooted in truth and challenged conventional wisdom, calling people to a deeper understanding of God’s commandments and the Kingdom of Heaven.

  2. Commanding Authority: Jesus gave direct, often radical commands to His disciples, such as “Follow Me,” “Leave your nets,” and “Go and make disciples of all nations.” His commands were always purposeful and aligned with His divine mission. They were not suggestions but directives that required full commitment and obedience from His followers. This authoritative leadership established His role as the guiding figure for the disciples’ lives and ministry.

  3. Miraculous Authority: Jesus’ miracles were an outward display of His divine authority. His power over nature, disease, and death underscored His identity as the Son of God. Whether calming storms, healing the sick, or raising the dead, His miracles served not only as signs of His compassion but also as affirmations of His divine authority.

THE APOSTLES’ AUTHORITY

  1. Authority Derived from Jesus: The apostles’ authority came directly from Jesus. As His chosen representatives, they were empowered to carry out His work. Jesus commissioned them to spread His message and to establish the early Church. Their authority was not self-appointed; it was given to them by Christ, and they exercised it with the understanding that they were stewards of His mission.

  2. Teaching and Proclaiming Authority: Much like Jesus, the apostles taught with authority. They shared the Gospel, explained Jesus’ teachings, and called people to repentance and faith. Their role in teaching and preaching was foundational for the establishment of Christian doctrine and the growth of the early Church. They were entrusted with the responsibility of preserving and passing on the teachings of Christ.

  3. Church Governance: The apostles also exercised authority in matters of Church governance. They made decisions regarding doctrine, resolved disputes, and appointed leaders within the growing Christian community. The apostles played a key role in establishing order and unity in the early Church, ensuring that the message of Jesus was faithfully communicated and lived out.

  4. Miraculous Ministry: Like Jesus, the apostles were granted power to perform miracles. These signs and wonders served as confirmations of their apostolic authority and helped to validate their message. Their miracles were a testament to the ongoing work of the Holy Spirit in the Church, just as Jesus had demonstrated the power of the Spirit during His ministry.

TD ASKS CHAT GPT:
How did the First Church and Christ regard Ephesians 5:21 (“mutual submission”)?

AI RESPONDS:
Ephesians 5:21, “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ,” emphasizes mutual submission within the Christian community. This concept calls for humility and respect toward others, urging believers to act in love and unity.

In Jesus’ ministry, we can see an example of submission, though it was not always expressed through a hierarchical “chain of command.” Jesus modeled servant leadership, showing His disciples that true greatness lies in serving others, not in lording over them (Matthew 20:28). He emphasized humility and the importance of placing others before oneself.

For instance, when Jesus washed His disciples’ feet, He demonstrated submission to them, showing that even the leader of the group is to serve. His leadership was not about enforcing authority but about nurturing, equipping, and serving.

The apostles followed this example in the early Church, exercising authority while also emphasizing mutual submission. While they did provide guidance and leadership, their authority was not about power but about serving and building up the Church.

Thus, Bible Ephesians 5:21 “whole Body of Christ” mutual submission in the fear of the Lord aligns with the Christian call to live in harmony, respecting one another in love and humility. The concept encourages a collaborative and humble relationship, where leadership is exercised through servanthood and selflessness.

Mutual Submission and the Chain of Command:

In regards to mutual submission as described in Ephesians 5:21, Jesus indeed modeled this principle, although in a unique and profound way. Jesus’ leadership was not about asserting dominance but about submitting Himself to the will of the Father, even unto death. Throughout His ministry, He demonstrated humility and servant leadership, laying down His life for His followers (John 15:13). He did not lord His authority over His disciples but instead served them, teaching them to do the same.

While Ephesians 5:21 speaks to the principle of mutual submission in the body of Christ, where individuals honor one another in reverence to Christ, Jesus’ leadership exemplified this through His sacrificial love, His willingness to serve, and His ultimate submission to God’s will. The apostles, following Jesus’ example, likewise modeled mutual submission within the early Church, leading by serving, not by dominating.

Thus, the “chain of command” within the body of Christ is not a rigid hierarchy but a structure based on servant leadership and mutual respect, with Christ at the head. In this sense, mutual submission in the fear of the Lord is about acknowledging Christ’s authority and following His example of sacrificial leadership.

TAVEAU ASKS:
Did Jesus discuss submission and use it in His governing authority with the 12 apostles? Did they model this in the First Church, and what about now?

AI RESPONDS:
Yes, Jesus did discuss and model submission in His ministry, though not in the sense of enforcing blind obedience or a rigid hierarchical structure. Instead, He taught submission as a heart attitude marked by humility and service, a principle He emphasized for His apostles and the broader community.

JESUS AND SUBMISSION:

While Jesus had authority over His disciples, He also emphasized submission through servanthood. For instance, He told His apostles that “whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant” (Matthew 20:26). He modeled this in the ultimate act of submission when He washed their feet (John 13:1-17), teaching them that leadership is about serving others, not exercising control.

THE EARLY CHURCH AND SUBMISSION:

The apostles continued to follow this model of servant leadership in the early Church. They exercised authority, but it was always in the context of love, mutual submission, and the purpose of building up the Body of Christ. They taught believers to submit to one another and to respect the roles of leadership within the Church, but their leadership was grounded in humility, not power.

Ephesians 5:21’s call for mutual submission was a cornerstone of the early Christian community, ensuring that relationships within the Church were marked by respect, love, and unity, with each person submitting to the needs of others in reverence for Christ.

SUBMISSION IN THE CHURCH TODAY:

In the modern Church, the concept of submission is still relevant. Leadership in the Church today should reflect the humility and servanthood modeled by Jesus. While various denominations and traditions may interpret leadership and submission differently, the core principle remains: leadership in the Church should not be authoritarian but should reflect the love, humility, and servant-hearted attitude of Christ.

Ultimately, submission in the Church today involves serving one another, submitting to God’s authority, and humbling ourselves to build up the Body of Christ in love and unity. The example of Jesus continues to serve as the model for how Christians should approach leadership and submission in the Church today.

The early Church emphasized ( this is servant leader Cross Body Unity’ ministry’s preaching style!) relational leadership, mutual submission, and collaboration rather than a rigid hierarchical structure. It was focused on the transformation of individuals and the establishment of a community marked by love, service, and the leading of the Holy Spirit.

TD ASKS Ai:
Q. How would you describe Jesus the Messiah’s form of government for the apostle and the church like the Hebrew Temple style order or what?

Ai RESPONDS:
Jesus did not establish a specific governmental or administrative structure for His apostles or the early Church that mimicked the Hebrew Temple style order. While the Hebrew Temple had a hierarchical structure with various roles and responsibilities, Jesus’ approach to governance within the Church differed in significant ways.

Jesus emphasized a relational and transformative model of leadership based on love, servanthood, and mutual submission. He taught His disciples to lead by example, to serve one another, and to prioritize humility and selflessness. This approach stood in contrast to the hierarchical structures and power dynamics often associated with institutionalized religious systems.

Rather than establishing a formal organizational structure, Jesus focused on cultivating a community of believers who would follow His teachings and the leading of the Holy Spirit. The early Church, under the guidance of the apostles, operated as a relational and decentralized community where members shared resources, supported one another, and sought the leading of the Spirit in decision-making.

The apostles played a crucial role in teaching, guiding, and establishing the early Christian communities. They were entrusted with the responsibility of transmitting Jesus’ teachings and providing spiritual oversight. However, their leadership was not characterized by a rigid hierarchy but rather by a sense of collaboration and shared responsibility.

In the early Church, decisions were often made collectively through consensus, prayer, and seeking the guidance of the Holy Spirit (Acts 15:28). The apostles and other leaders worked together in unity, utilizing their gifts and discernment to ensure the growth and welfare of the Church.

It is important to note that as the Church expanded and encountered different cultural contexts, it did adopt certain organizational structures and leadership roles to effectively carry out its mission. However, the core principles of servant leadership, love, and mutual submission remained foundational.

In summary, Jesus’ form of government for the apostles and the early Church emphasized relational leadership, mutual submission, and collaboration rather than a rigid hierarchical structure. It was focused on the transformation of individuals and the establishment of a community marked by love, service, and the leading of the Holy Spirit.

 

TD ASKS:Q. When did the use of hierarchy in ministry come into the First Church?
CHAT GPT REPLIES:
The use of hierarchy in ministry within the early Church developed over time, as the Church grew and faced various challenges and organizational needs. While the early Church initially operated in a more decentralized and communal manner, certain hierarchical structures and leadership roles gradually emerged.
In the New Testament, we see indications of developing hierarchical structures and roles within the early Church:
The Twelve Apostles: The apostles held a unique and foundational role in the early Church. They were specifically chosen by Jesus, and they played a significant part in establishing and guiding the early Christian communities. Their authority and leadership were widely recognized and respected.
Elders and Overseers: As the Church expanded, there was a need for local leadership and governance. The terms “elders” and “overseers” are used interchangeably in the New Testament to refer to those responsible for shepherding and overseeing the local congregations. These leaders provided spiritual guidance, taught, and exercised authority within their respective communities.
Deacons: The role of deacons emerged to address practical and administrative needs within the Church. The first mention of deacons is found in Acts 6, where individuals were chosen to serve in practical matters, such as distributing food to widows. The role of deacons involved serving the community, assisting with practical needs, and supporting the work of the elders.
Pauline Epistles: In the letters written by the apostle Paul, we see further development of hierarchical structures within the Church. Paul instructs Timothy and Titus, his trusted co-workers, to appoint overseers and deacons in various local churches. These instructions reflect a growing need for leadership structures to ensure the proper functioning and order within the expanding Church.
NOTE THIS ….It’s important to note that while hierarchy emerged in the early Church, the principles of servant leadership, mutual submission, and love were still emphasized. Leaders were expected to shepherd and serve the flock, rather than exerting authoritarian control.
The development of hierarchy in the early Church can be seen as a response to the growing needs of the community and the desire for effective governance and organization. However, it is essential to approach the study of Church history with an understanding that the specific structures and practices varied across different regions and communities during that time.

The World, the Flesh and the You Know Who!
TAVEAU ASKS  CHAT GPT
I am interested in any Messiah, First Church AUTHORITARIAN ROOTS...When did (and also now) where does authoritarian control come into the First Church?
CHAT GPT REPLIES:
Authoritarian control, similar to the concepts of hierarchy and power dynamics, can emerge in any organization or institution, including the Church.
While the early Church initially operated with a sense of equality and mutual submission, over time, as the Church grew and faced various challenges,elements of authoritarian control may have entered certain contexts within the Church. It is important to note that these instances were not universal across the entire early Church but occurred in specific regions or communities.
Historical Context: As the Church expanded beyond its Jewish roots and encountered different cultures and societal structures, it faced the influence of Roman and Hellenistic society, which often had authoritarian power structures. In some cases, these societal norms could have influenced the leadership and governance structures within certain Christian communities.
Emergence of Bishops and Clergy: As the Church grew and organized itself, the role of bishops and clergy emerged. This development brought with it the potential for centralized authority and hierarchical structures. Over time, this led to the development of a clerical class with increasing power and control within the Church.
Church-State Relationship:
In later centuries, particularly after Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Church became entwined with political power. This fusion of Church and state led to instances where the Church wielded significant authority and employed authoritarian control, particularly in matters of doctrine and discipline.
Modern Context:
In the present day, authoritarian control can still exist in certain parts of the Church, although it is important to recognize that this is not the case universally. Within various Christian denominations and organizations, issues of power, control, and authoritarian leadership can arise. These instances can manifest in oppressive leadership styles, lack of accountability, and misuse of authority.
It is important to distinguish between the presence of authoritarian control within certain contexts and the core teachings and principles of Christianity. The teachings of Jesus emphasize love, humility, servant leadership, and mutual submission. Christians are called to discern and challenge any forms of authoritarian control that contradict these teachings, and to strive for leadership that is characterized by the spirit of Christ’s example
TAVEAU AGAIN WANTS TO KNOW
 DID CHRIST, FIRST CHURCH USES EPHESIANS 5:21 RATHER OVERSEER COVERING AUTHORITARIAN “BIG BOSS” Ministry Sr Office Style?
CHAT GPT ANSWERS:
The interpretation and application of Ephesians 5:21, which states, “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ,” can vary among different Christian traditions and individuals. It is important to note that the interpretation of this verse should be done in the context of the broader teachings of the Bible.
In the context of the First Church, as described in the New Testament, the emphasis was on love, humility, and mutual submission among believers. Jesus taught His disciples to serve one another and to prioritize love and unity within the community of believers. The apostles, who were appointed by Jesus, also emphasized the importance of unity, humility, and mutual support among the members of the early Church.
While there were leadership roles within the early Church, such as apostles, elders, and pastors, the focus was not on establishing an authoritarian big boss or a hierarchical structure. Instead, leadership was intended to serve and shepherd the community, following the example of Jesus as the Good Shepherd (John 10:11).
It is important to remember that the Bible encourages believers to respect and submit to spiritual leadership that aligns with the teachings of Christ. However, this submission should be based on the principles of love, humility, and mutual respect rather than an authoritarian, top-down structure.
Different Christian denominations and local churches may interpret and apply Ephesians 5:21 and other related passages differently. Some emphasize a more hierarchical structure with an emphasis on submission to specific church leaders, while others emphasize the priesthood of all believers and mutual submission among all believers.
Ultimately, individuals and communities within the Church should strive to embody the teachings of Christ, seeking love, unity, and humility in their relationships and interactions with one another.
ABOUT LEADERSHIP STYLES AND DEFINITIONS
SISTER TAVEAU INQUIRES:
Q. What’s the difference between 1) authoritarian versus 2) persuasive leadership and 3) servant leadership in the Bible?
CHAT GPT AI ANSWERS BACK:

In the context of the Bible, there are several leadership styles and principles that can be observed. Let’s explore the differences between authoritarian leadership, persuasive leadership, and servant leadership:

Authoritarian Leadership in the Bible:

There are instances in the Bible where leaders exhibited authoritarian tendencies, exercising control and demanding obedience without considering the input or needs of others. An example can be seen in King Saul, who ruled over Israel in the Old Testament. Saul’s leadership was marked by his self-centeredness, disobedience to God, and a lack of concern for the well-being of his people. This style of leadership often leads to negative consequences and can be contrasted with more positive models of leadership in the Bible.

An authoritarian leader  exercises control and authority over others in a commanding and autocratic manner. They typically make decisions without seeking input or consensus from others and expect strict obedience from their subordinates. The focus is on maintaining power and control rather than fostering collaboration or empowerment. Authoritarian leaders often enforce their directives through a top-down approach and may use fear, coercion, or punishment to maintain discipline.

Persuasive Leadership in the Bible:

Persuasive leadership, also known as transformational leadership, is characterized by a leader’s ability to inspire and influence others through effective communication, vision, and motivation. This leadership style seeks to build consensus, encourage collaboration, and bring about positive change. An example of persuasive leadership in the Bible can be seen in the apostle Paul, who used his persuasive abilities to spread the message of Christianity and guide early Christian communities. Paul appealed to reason, emotions, and shared values to influence others towards a common purpose.

Servant Leadership in the Bible:

Servant leadership is a leadership style that emphasizes humility, service, and selflessness. It is rooted in the teachings and example of Jesus Christ, who washed the feet of his disciples and taught that true leadership comes from serving others. In the Bible, servant leaders are called to prioritize the needs of others, seek their well-being, and empower them to reach their full potential. Jesus is the ultimate example of a servant leader, as he sacrificed himself for the sake of humanity. This leadership style encourages collaboration, empathy, and a focus on the greater good.

A servant leader, is a leadership style characterized by a focus on serving and supporting others. Servant leaders prioritize the needs and well-being of their followers and work to empower and develop them. They lead with humility, empathy, and a desire to serve the greater good. Rather than wielding authority and control, servant leaders seek to inspire and influence through their example and by creating a supportive and inclusive environment. They encourage participation, collaboration, and personal growth among their team members

(TD Points)

SERVANT LEADER  VS TOP CONTROL:

While authoritarian leadership focuses on control, persuasive leadership emphasizes influence, and servant leadership centers on service and selflessness. The Bible provides examples of different leadership styles, illustrating the consequences and virtues associated with each approach.

A  LEADERS DEMEANOR, OFFICE, AUTHORITY “TONE”.

(pertains to Authoritarian Ministry)

TD ASKS:

Define the authority  demeanor (“coming across as”) of a person  who is “strident”

Ai RESPOND

Strident:

The term “strident” is an adjective that describes something or someone as loud, harsh, or forceful in expressing opinions, demands, or criticisms. It implies a strong and often aggressive or contentious tone or manner. A strident person or statement is characterized by being vehement, shrill, or uncompromising in their approach, often provoking strong reactions or disagreements. It suggests a lack of flexibility or willingness to consider alternative viewpoints.

TD WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT

Please address these or similar Ministry DOCTRINES WHICH ARE MINGLED IN THE CURRENT MINISTRIES:

TD ASKS ABOUT DOCTRINES OF THE NICOLAITANS

Please define and describe Doctrines of the Nicolaitans and why God hates them and how they entered the first church. And are they there right now?

CHAT GPT AI RESPONDS:
The Nicolaitans were mentioned in the book of Revelation in two separate instances, in Revelation 2:6 and 2:15. While there is limited information provided about them in the Bible, their doctrines and practices were criticized and condemned by Jesus.

Doctrines of the Nicolaitans: The exact nature of the Nicolaitan doctrines is not explicitly described in the Bible. The term “Nicolaitans” is derived from the Greek words “Nikolaos” (meaning “conqueror of the people”) and “laos” (meaning “people”). Some scholars speculate that the Nicolaitans may have advocated for a form of hierarchical leadership or a separation between the spiritual elite and the common people.

God’s Displeasure: In Revelation 2:6, Jesus commends the church in Ephesus for hating the deeds of the Nicolaitans, implying that these deeds were contrary to God’s will. In Revelation 2:15, Jesus rebukes the church in Pergamum for tolerating those who held the teachings of the Nicolaitans. The exact reasons for God’s displeasure with the Nicolaitans are not explicitly stated, but it is clear that their doctrines and practices were viewed negatively.

Entry into the First Church: The Bible does not provide specific details about how or when the Nicolaitan teachings entered the first Church. It is possible that these teachings emerged as a deviation or distortion of the early Christian message. Over time, as the Church expanded and encountered different cultural influences, various false teachings and practices crept in. The Nicolaitan doctrines may have been one such example.

Current Existence:
It is unclear whether the Nicolaitan doctrines and practices continue to exist in the Church today. The term “Nicolaitans” does not refer to any specific group or sect that is identified in modern times. However, some interpret the warnings against the Nicolaitans as a caution against hierarchical and oppressive leadership structures that may emerge in the Church.

TAVEAU INTERJECTS THIS FROM OTHER PRIOR BIBLE STUDIES (to value and to hear God)

TD NAMES  THE “DOCTRINES OF THE NICOLAITANSpossibly as   “Nico” meaning “NIKE”… to control..an LAOS ..means the  People:  THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS IS USE OF FALSE AUTHORITY TO GET ONE’S OWN WAY .meaning top dog ministry leader recurring pressure, manipulation, overuse of hierarchy, instill fear, shame, peer pressure, witchcraft to TOP CONTROL   REASON to serve the GRASS ROOTS which is mired in this in too many crayzmatics.

 

BACK TO THE CHAT GPT REPLY
It is important to remember that the teachings and practices of the early Church were guided by the apostles and their understanding of Jesus’ teachings. The condemnation of the Nicolaitan doctrines serves as a reminder to guard against teachings or practices that deviate from the core message of love, humility, and service found in Christ’s teachings. Christians are called to discern and reject any teachings or practices that contradict the principles of the Gospel.

THE PATRICIAN ELITE

TD ASKS CHAT GPT

Q. DEFINE but also Describe Roman patricianism in light of the Christ First Church and modern church

CHAT GPT ANSWERS:
Roman patricianism refers to the social and political system of ancient Rome, where the patricians were the wealthy and aristocratic elite class. They held significant power and influence within Roman society, often monopolizing political offices and controlling economic resources.

In the context of the Christ First Church and the modern church, Roman patricianism serves as a point of contrast rather than a direct influence. The early Christian movement, including the First Church, emerged in a different cultural and social milieu than the Roman patrician system. The teachings and values of Jesus and the early apostles emphasized humility, servanthood, and equality among believers.

Christ First Church: The First Church, established by the apostles and early disciples, sought to embody the teachings of Jesus and the principles of the kingdom of God. It was characterized by a sense of community, sharing resources, and mutual support. The early Christians did not adhere to the hierarchical and elitist structures of Roman patricianism but instead emphasized love, equality, and unity in Christ. They considered themselves as part of a new spiritual family, where all members were valued and important.

Modern Church: . Many churches today emphasize servant leadership, equality, and the priesthood of all believers. The focus is on fostering a sense of community, nurturing spiritual growth, and engaging in acts of service and social justice.

TAVEAU INTERJECTS ABOUT PATRICIANISM

TD submits that we can defines Roman Patricianism in modern day sr ministry as “stern Aristocratic” “bowing and scraping” to top leaders…it breeds accusing false witness…class systems, much ministry competition and Big I Little You of right now…Also it puts pressure on the immature with  ” need to be elite.” Also it’s tends toward merchandising,  Big Big Blessed..”respects only certain types of persons” may be ‘exclusive rather divere inclusive”…includes much display of wealth, owning many possessions and/ may idolize the top office, which births many would be copy cats  and the need to the next famous, renown, “Christian pop Celebrity” this Fruit of Demas even Eli I SAMUEL top priesthood is rampant in PARTS of TV Media effect certain types of ministry.

, This ministry uses performance, achievement and focuses much on it’s own self own turf and has the Boys, Girls Clubs, elegant and elite but “big respecter of persons ” GOOGLE  See the traits of Aristocratic often cruel enslaving impure Roman Patricianism in  WIKIPEDIA

BACK TO CHAT GPT

In summary, Roman Patricianism, with its emphasis on elitism and hierarchy, stands in contrast to the teachings and values of the Christ First Church and the modern church. The early Christians sought to embody the teachings of Jesus, promoting love, humility, and equality among believers. The modern church, while facing its own challenges, continues to strive towards these ideals, emphasizing servant leadership, community, and the equality of all believers in Christ.’

 

TAVEAU ASKS CHAT GPT
Q. In any part of the Old or New Testament did God appoint priests, prophets, apostles, pastors to” target” “call them non church goers” “to accuse them, and shame “people for “not attending church ( “for not fellowshipping with the saints’ for not being an official church member? For not being Under their spiritual governing authority? for being a church hopper (means going to more than one fellowship?)
CHAT GPT Replies:
In the Old Testament, God did establish a priesthood within the Israelite community. The tribe of Levi was set apart for priestly duties, and Aaron and his descendants were appointed as priests to carry out religious rituals and offerings in the tabernacle and later in the temple. Their role was primarily focused on offering sacrifices, maintaining the sanctity of the sanctuary, and teaching the Law of God to the people (Exodus 28-29; Leviticus 8-10; Numbers 3-4).
Prophets were also raised up by God throughout the Old Testament to deliver His messages, call the people to repentance, and speak on His behalf. Their role was not specifically tied to targeting people for not attending a particular gathering or being an official member of an organized religious institution. Instead, their primary function was to convey God’s word and bring spiritual guidance and correction to the people of Israel.
In the New Testament, Jesus appointed the twelve apostles to be His closest followers and witnesses to His ministry. They were entrusted with the task of spreading the Gospel, establishing and nurturing Christian communities, and teaching the teachings of Jesus. While their role involved leading and shepherding the early Church, there is no specific indication that they were instructed to target individuals for not attending a particular gathering or being a member of a specific church.
Regarding pastors or shepherds, the term is used in the New Testament to refer to those who provide spiritual leadership and care for the local church. Their role is primarily focused on teaching, guiding, and nurturing the believers within their congregation, encouraging them in their faith and equipping them for ministry (Ephesians 4:11-12; 1 Peter 5:1-4)
.KEY POINT.…Nowhere in the Bible is there a specific instruction or mandate to target individuals for not attending church, not being official members, or being church hoppers (attending multiple fellowships). The emphasis of the Bible is on the importance of believers gathering together for worship, teaching, fellowship, and mutual encouragement (Hebrews 10:24-25). However, the specific form and structure of the Church, including membership and attendance, have varied throughout history and across different cultural contexts.
It is important to note that while the Bible does not command targeting individuals in the ways described, the New Testament does encourage believers to actively engage in fellowship, to seek and support spiritual leadership, and to contribute to the well-being and growth of the local church community. However, the manner in which this is practiced can vary among different Christian traditions and cultural contexts.

THE OBJECTIVE CHAT
GPT AI  Again States:
In the Old and New Testaments, there is no specific indication or instruction from God to priests, prophets, apostles, or pastors to target, call out, accuse, shame, or engage in negative actions towards individuals for not attending church, not fellowshipping with the saints, not being official church members, or being church hoppers (attending multiple fellowships).
While the Bible encourages believers to gather together, engage in fellowship, and participate in the life of the Church, there is no directive to shame or condemn those who do not adhere to specific church attendance or membership practices. The emphasis in the Bible is on love, acceptance, and the nurturing of relationships within the Christian community.
The role of priests, prophets, apostles, and pastors in the Bible is primarily focused on teaching, guiding, shepherding, and equipping believers for the work of ministry, rather than targeting or shaming individuals for their church attendance or membership status. Their purpose is to encourage spiritual growth, provide guidance, and help believers deepen their relationship with God and others.
It is important to approach matters of church attendance, fellowship, and membership with grace, understanding that individual circumstances, personal convictions, and cultural factors can influence how believers engage with the Church. While regular participation in a local church community is encouraged, the focus should be on fostering a spirit of love, inclusion, and mutual support rather than shaming or accusing those who may have different patterns or preferences in their church involvement.
REGARDING YOUR CHRISTIAN LEADER WOMENTAVEAU ASKS CHAT GPT  TO SHARE THE IMPARTIAL VIEW OF JESUS TOWARDS ALL KINDS OF WOMEN:
SHE ASKS: How did Jesus regard women? How did he treat women? His mother?
CHAT GPT RESPONDS
Jesus displayed a unique and revolutionary attitude towards women during His ministry. He treated women with dignity, respect, and equality, challenging the societal norms and cultural expectations of His time. Here are some key aspects of how Jesus regarded and treated women:
Dignity and Worth: Jesus affirmed the inherent dignity and worth of women. He recognized them as valuable individuals created in the image of God, deserving of respect and honor. Jesus consistently acknowledged the significance of women’s lives and their spiritual worth.
Inclusion and Acceptance: Jesus included women as His followers and welcomed them into His inner circle. He engaged in meaningful conversations with women, despite cultural taboos. For example, He spoke with the Samaritan woman at the well (John 4:1-42) and engaged in deep theological discussions with Mary, the sister of Martha (Luke 10:38-42)
Teaching and Discipleship: Jesus taught women, allowing them to sit at His feet and receive instruction alongside male disciples. He offered women the opportunity to learn and grow spiritually, affirming their capacity for understanding and discipleship.
Healing and Restoration: Jesus demonstrated compassion and care for women, healing them from various physical and emotional ailments. He restored their well-being and brought them into a renewed sense of wholeness, emphasizing their value and worth.
Respect for Mothers: Jesus honored His mother, Mary, throughout His life. He entrusted her care to the apostle John while He was on the cross (John 19:26-27). This act of ensuring her well-being exemplified His commitment to family relationships and respect for His mother’s role.
Resurrection Witnesses: Jesus chose women as the first witnesses to His resurrection, entrusting them with the significant task of proclaiming this pivotal event to the male disciples. This act of trust and inclusion highlights His recognition of women’s vital role in proclaiming the good news.
Overall, Jesus’ treatment of women reflected His radical commitment to equality, justice, and inclusivity. He challenged the cultural and religious norms of His time, elevating women’s status and affirming their value in God’s kingdom. His actions and teachings continue to inspire and shape the understanding of gender equality and dignity within Christianity.’

TAVEAU ASKS CHAT GPT:
Q. Would you believe that Jesus the Messiah related to women, His mother,all women in Ephesians 5:21, not just men? Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the reverential fear of the Lord”
CHAT GPT ANSWERS BACK:Yes, it is reasonable to believe that Jesus the Messiah acted in alignment with the principles outlined in Ephesians 5:21 when it comes to His interactions with women, including His mother and all women. Ephesians 5:21 states, “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ,” and this verse emphasizes mutual submission, humility, and respect among believers.
Throughout His ministry, Jesus consistently demonstrated a spirit of love, humility, and mutual submission towards all individuals, regardless of gender. He treated women with honor, dignity, and respect, often challenging the prevailing cultural norms of His time. His interactions with women reflect His commitment to valuing and affirming their equality and worth.
Jesus’ relationship with His mother, Mary, provides a significant example of this. He demonstrated love and care for His mother, even as He fulfilled His mission. For instance, during the wedding at Cana (John 2:1-11), Jesus responded to Mary’s request by performing His first miracle, despite initially indicating that His time had not yet come. This interaction reflects His sensitivity and respect for His mother’s concerns and desires.
Furthermore, Jesus engaged in meaningful conversations with women, taught them, and welcomed their presence among His followers. He demonstrated compassion and healing towards women, addressing their physical and spiritual needs. He challenged societal expectations by affirming the value and importance of women’s voices and perspectives.
Overall, Jesus’ treatment of women aligns with the principles of mutual submission, respect, and love described in Ephesians 5:21. His actions and teachings serve as a model for how believers should relate to one another, valuing and honoring the inherent worth and equality of all individuals, regardless of gender.

TD ASKS:
Q. Concerning St Paul or the first Apostles who governed the Church..how they regard women, leader women, all women?
CHAT GPT AI RESPONDS:
The apostle Paul and the other early apostles played a significant role in governing and shaping the early Christian Church. Their teachings and actions regarding women varied to some extent, but it is important to understand their overall approach within the cultural context of their time. Here are some key points to consider:
Equality and Value: Paul and the early apostles recognized the equality and value of women in Christ. In Galatians 3:28, Paul declares, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” This verse emphasizes the equal standing of all believers in Christ, irrespective of gender.
Leadership and Ministry: While the New Testament predominantly highlights male leaders in the early Church, there are examples of women holding positions of leadership and influence. For instance, Phoebe is mentioned as a deaconess in Romans 16:1, and Priscilla is mentioned alongside her husband Aquila, instructing Apollos in Acts 18:26. Paul also commends various women for their work in ministry, such as Euodia and Syntyche in Philippians 4:2-3.
Instruction on Roles: Paul provides specific instructions regarding the roles of women in the Church. For instance, in 1 Timothy 2:11-12, he writes that women should learn in quietness and submission, not having authority over men. These instructions have been interpreted and applied differently across Christian traditions, with some emphasizing male leadership and others interpreting the passage as contextual to specific situations.
Cultural Context: It is crucial to recognize that Paul and the early apostles operated within a patriarchal society that held certain cultural norms and expectations regarding gender roles. While they addressed specific issues and challenges faced by early Christian communities, their teachings were influenced by the cultural milieu of their time.It is essential to approach these biblical passages with care, recognizing that the early Church was navigating the intersection of God’s revelation and the cultural context in which it existed.
While there are differing interpretations and applications of these teachings, the overarching message of the New Testament is one of love, equality, and mutual respect among believers, regardless of gender.
TD Says
These are some of my favorite apostolic ministry Bible verses about ongoing “relationship pure respect”
TAVEAU LIST “RESPECT AND  RELATE”
Pure Paul Ephesians 5:21 (KJV)
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”Half Brother of Jesus, Pastor Church of Jerusalem James 3:17 (KJV):
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Paul: Ephesians 4:1-3 (KJV): The Transformed Entire Walking it Out Community
I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Paul: Ephesians 2:14-15 (KJV):
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
Pure Paul: Ephesians 4:32 (KJV):
“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.”
“SPIRITUAL COVERING”  AN ENORMOUS  LP AUTHORITY TEACHING in certain parts of the Christian ministry, mostly spirit filled, . Please give First Church Verses about “covering”Taveau asks CHAT GPT about “ministry covering” Is it mentioned anywhere in the Bible, the New Testament? IF SO:  Please share those Bible passes
CHAT GPT AI REPLIES
Here are a few Bible verses that mention the term “covering” or “cover”:
  • 1 Peter 4:8 (NIV):
  • Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.”
  • Psalm 32:1 (NIV):
    “Blessed is the one whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered.”
  • Exodus 40:3 (NIV):
    “Place the ark of the covenant law in it and shield the ark with the curtain.”
  • 1 Corinthians 11:6 (NIV):
    “For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.”
  • Psalm 91:4 (NIV):
    “He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.”

 

TD ADDS

I have addressed the topic of having to have “spiritual covering” often before, and there is no such term in the New Testament, nor does Christ, Paul, or the First Church demand it anywhere. It is a concept from old-time ministry, rooted in the Mountain William School of Theology, up in the hollers, combined with the fear of women and major legalistic authoritarian Puritan control. The idea that “Eve was deceived” has led to the belief that all women are accusable, weak, lesser, sly, and easily fooled—essentially labeling them as slaves, vixens, and Queen Jezebels.

My Opinion:

However, let us end on a higher plane of thought: A pastor knows her “rigid ministry turf.”

There is a term which relates to health—watching each other’s backs in prayer through adequate prayer covering, as described in Deuteronomy 32:30:
How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight....
AMEN

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2023 ARCHIVES PART 1 “ARE YOU SUBMITTED” (FIRST OF 11 PART SERIES)

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(usually Levitical Patriachism Style) SUBMISSION”
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(MAINLY TO “OUR KIND” OF THEOLOGY)
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NOTE: Fellow Christian Leaders, this is submitted as a Selah for stirring up new thought .NOT as a hardcore accuser dogma, for there is too of that.
TAVEAU RESPECTFULLY ASKS THE “SUPPOSED TO BE OBJECTIVE” CHAT GPT Ai:
Q. In Modern Book of Acts First Church Christian Believing WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE OVER, UNDER WHOM? Is a Christian Ministry FORCED to be UNDER an Official Organization or Office?
Or is all that a big issue?
PS Q.  Also a Paul Apostle Submission in light of a Galatians 1:1-2 (which is also my SENT office)
TAVEAU ASKS OBJECTIVE CHAT GPT AI
Please define “submission” according to Old Testament and New Testament
ChatGPT  REPLIES:
(PS TD first points out  how a key word in what follows is “WILLINGLY” not a law, or accusable, forced ministry today requirement)
Ai, SAYS
SUBMISSION, as understood in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, involves WILLINGLY placing oneself under the authority, guidance, and direction of God or designated human authorities in various contexts.
TAVEAU ASKS:
Tell us about the Old Testament View of “Submission”
AI RESPONDS:
In the Old Testament, “submission” is often associated with obedience to God’s commands, laws, and instructions. The Hebrew word commonly used for submission is “shamah,” which means to hear, listen, and obey. This obedience is rooted in recognizing God’s authority and trusting in His wisdom and guidance. For example, in Deuteronomy 6:4-5, the Israelites are instructed to love the Lord their God with all their heart, soul, and strength, which implies complete devotion and submission to Him.
TAVEAU asks Chat GPT
PLEASE DISCUSS ” SUBMISSION” IN THE NEW TESTAMENT FIRST CHURCH:
Chat GPT AI REPLIES: IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
In the New Testament, submission continues to encompass obedience to God’s will and the teachings of Jesus Christ. It also extends to relationships within the Christian community and society. The Greek word often used for submission is “hypotassō,” which means to arrange oneself under, to subject oneself to, or to WILLINGLY yield. (
TD INTERJECTS:
ONCE AGAIN TD POINTS OUT HOW the word is “WILLINGLY does not mean shamed, or accused or forced into SUBMITTING)
TAVEAU ASKS
DESCRIBE SUBMISSION IN LIGHT OF  ONGOING  CHRISTIAN RELATIONSHIPS (First Church)
Ai STATES:
In the context of relationships, the New Testament teaches about various instances of submission. For example, wives are encouraged to submit to their husbands as to the Lord
TD Hastens to fill in the missing gaps:
(Ephesians 5:22 apart from 5:21 “mutual submission in the fea of the Lord” which is how it must be read, trained, and ministry evaluated
(Ephesians 5:22** Due to this verse being taught as a HELLISH HAMMER HEAD to hold leader woman DOWN,
TD also reminds that (after ensuring this was correct via Chat GBT Ai in other article a few months aga..Pauls’ EPH 5: 21 “Mutual Submission in the fear of the Lord for BOTH SPOUSES and the ENTIRE FELLOWSHIP, over all COMMUNITY come PRECEDING THAT
(left) TD “PEER” TRAINING
“Beware the scowls of very possible overseer, cult
Pharieseeism, Control Dark witch watching,etc” Sister T
TO CHILDREN
Also Colossians 3:18), children are instructed to submit to their parents (Ephesians 6:1), and believers are called to submit to governing authorities (Romans 13:1, 1 Peter 2:13-14). These teachings emphasize respectful and willing submission as part of God’s ordained order in various spheres of life.
TAVEAU specically asks Chat GPT AI: 
Q. Is “submission” to authority demanded, a legalistic accusable ministry requirement or what?
Chat GPT RESPONDS:
A. However, it’s important to note that submission is NOT ABOUT BLIND OBEDIENCE OR the endorsement of OPPRESSIVE authority.
Both the Old and New Testaments also emphasize the principles of justice, righteousness, and the responsibility of leaders to exercise their authority in accordance with God’s character and purposes.
Submission is not absolute but should be balanced with discernment, accountability, and the pursuit of God’s will.
TD’S IN  HOUSE PERSONAL EPHESIANS 5:21 CHAIN OF COMMAND BASIC TRAINING VIEW:

FIRST: This ministry, Cross Body Unity Servant Christian Community, based on the book of Ephesians 4, emphasizes the importance of submission. According to Apostle Paul in Ephesians 5:21, there is a call for “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord”

  • THUS: Taveau makes this key point that we each should recognize the need to observe any set boundaries put in place by the host and accept and follow them.
  • However, If those boundaries become toxic, it is wise to leave. (Note dysfunctional group fruit 2 Timothy 3;1-5, I Timothy 6:5)
  • However, after you return from the meeting..after you are , back on your own turf, then you  are not under  their boundaries,  be it back in your home,in your own ministry, not in visiting, attending their ministry fellowship, or business…out of respect you value and regard their boundaries, basic rules however, when , you are back on your own turf You do as God tells you.
  • That  is right.
  •  Apostle Paul mentors, “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” At that point, each person is responsible for their own actions. So, please obey God’s guidance.

GOOD SUBMISSION PRODUCES QUALITY HEALTHY  RELATIONSHIP SAFE FRUITS

WISE DISCERNMENT FOR NEW VISITORS, REPEAT ATTENDERS (not joined yet, not planning to, just continually visit)

I advise using JAMES 3:17 to “assess and evaluate” each person, ongoing and yourself also.AND TO ASSESS  THE TOP LEADERS, THE STAFF, ELDERS, CONGREGATIONAL LAY by how you resemble and role  model the fruit of “

the wisdom from above ” which is pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruit, without partiality and without hypocrisy”

. We also ought to ongoing repeatedly train the importance of equal opportunity and real respect in ministry, fellowship, family, marriage, and community.

SECOND: IF,WHEN, AS YOU OFFICIALLY JOIN (sign on the ministry dotted “membership” official line)

Secondly, it is important to understand that when God leads a person to officially join a ministry or organization, it signifies a new level of commitment. Once you make the decision to join, you are expected to submit to the rules and guidelines established by that particular work.

YOUR ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHAT, WHOM YOU WILL “SUBMIT” TO

If you are unmarried, single, a single parent, or divorced, you are the head of your household and should be respected as a valid and equal individual. This principle applies to both visitors and attendees, as well as those in leadership positions, including myself as a top founder leader. The goal is to follow Ephesians 5:21, but also to work out your own salvation according to the teachings of Apostle Paul. It is important to pray and seek guidance on where you should attend and whether it aligns with the respect for your authority as the head of your household.

If you have any further questions or need clarification, you can reach out to me at tclleadership@gmail.com.

Chat AI SAYS….BASIC BIBLE …
OVERALL CONCLUSION
Overall, submission in the Old and New Testaments involves willingly aligning oneself with God’s authority and obeying His commands,
DR TD  ADDS:
New Testament  COMMANDS  about “submission’ will never  ACCUSE or shame them, gossip about them, put them under pressure to FORCE them, GUILT TRIP THEM  … TO “MAKE THEM” OBEY “BE UNDER”  Theirs or any other ministry groups “authority” )(Most of these who are into that, use the Old Testament Accusing Law
Holy Bible Submission is an “pure heart” attitude more than an act.
SUBMITTING with humility and respect is an open display of  trust, humility, and recognizing that God is ultimately  deserving of our allegiance and obedience as we attempt to serve and abide in community, relationship with “another, ministry, church, life group).
ABOUT APOSTLE PAUL AND HIS CHURCH AUTHORITY
TD SAYS

THIS IS ABOUT APOSTLE PAUL SUBMISSION TO CHRISTIAN AUTHORITY AS A GALATIANS 1;1-2 SORT OF OFFICE ‘CROSS BODY” APOSTLE

Backstory: Apostle Paul had first be LP Saul who targeted and murdered the First Church Christians. So when he was gloriously saved and become on fire for Jesus, He went to the first church 12 apostle hand picked and mentored by Christ Himself (Meaning minus Judas, add Matthias)/

At first the original 12 did not want Paul to colabor with them. So he went up to Damascus at the leading of the Lord to dwell 13-14 years up with the Arab Gentiles. While he was there he relied upon the Lord and got the Holy Spirit download which transformed, later in the Apostle Paul who was a Galatians 1:1-2 chief apostle
TAVEAU CONTINUES:

SIR APOSTLE PAUL WRITES OF HIMSELF (Galatians 1:1-2 KJV)
“Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;“2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
TD ASKS
WHO WAS APOSTLE PAUL SUBMITTED TO IN LEVITICAL LAW MEANING?
Ai WRITES:
Apostle Paul, as a devoted follower of Jesus Christ, considered himself to be submitted to God above all else. He recognized God’s authority as supreme and sought to align his life, ministry, and teachings with God’s will.
In his writings, Paul frequently referred to himself as a servant or slave of Christ, indicating his complete devotion and submission to Jesus as his Lord and Master. He saw himself as an instrument in God’s hands, carrying out God’s purposes and spreading the gospel.
Paul also emphasized the importance of accountability and mutual submission within the Christian community. He taught that believers should submit to one another out of reverence for Christ (Ephesians 5:21), highlighting the principle of mutual respect and humility in relationships.
It is important to note that while Paul recognized and respected the authority of God, Jesus, and the apostles, his ultimate allegiance was to God, and he prioritized obedience to God’s will above all human authority. His submission to others was motivated by his desire to serve and honor God rather than simply complying with human demands.
TD ASKS Chat AI
Q. Did Apostle Paul need to get the permission of the twelve original apostles, who were hand-picked and mentored by Christ, considering that he got saved later and belonged to a new second generation of the movement in the making?
Q. And what about Apostle Paul being sent to Arabia? Did he go and ask for permission first, as if he needed to be submitted in such a fashion
AI REPLIES
In Galatians 1:15-17, Paul provides some insights into what happened next. He writes that after his conversion, he did NOT immediately consult with other apostles OR seek the approval of human beings. Instead, he went to Arabia:
“But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus” (Galatians 1:15-17, NKJV).
The exact details of Paul’s time in Arabia are not provided in the New Testament. Some scholars speculate that during this period, Paul may have received direct revelations from the Lord and deepened his understanding of the gospel through personal study and reflection.
After his time in Arabia, Paul returned to Damascus and then went to Jerusalem, where he met with the apostle Peter and stayed with him for fifteen days (Galatians 1:18-19). It was during this visit that Paul encountered opposition from the Hellenistic Jews, leading to his departure to other regions and eventually to his extensive missionary journeys.
While the New Testament does not explicitly mention the first church apostles rejecting Paul’s help, there were certainly moments of disagreement and differing perspectives among early Christian leaders. However, it is important to note that over time, Paul established significant relationships with other apostles, including Peter, James, and John, as they recognized the authenticity of his apostolic calling and ministry (Galatians 2:9).
THE ABOVE: First Church was all Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” (diverse community, offices, elders, leaders, lay, married couples) Chat AI confirms later in this series. Hence the sign ABOVE is teaching material to modern day LP Shepherding type of mainly apostle-prophet worship many moves

 

TD ASKS AI: WHO WAS PAUL SUBMITTED TO

Ai ANSWERS:

Apostle Paul, as a devoted follower of Jesus Christ, considered himself to be submitted to God above all else. He recognized God’s authority as supreme and sought to align his life, ministry, and teachings with God’s will.

In his writings, Paul frequently referred to himself as a servant or slave of Christ, indicating his complete devotion and submission to Jesus as his Lord and Master. He saw himself as an instrument in God’s hands, carrying out God’s purposes and spreading the gospel.

Furthermore, Paul acknowledged the authority and leadership of the apostles who were appointed by Jesus and had been with Him during His ministry. In his letter to the Galatians, Paul described how he met with the apostles in Jerusalem to ensure that his preaching was in line with the gospel they were proclaiming (Galatians 2:1-2).

Paul also emphasized the importance of accountability and mutual submission within the Christian community. He taught that believers should submit to one another out of reverence for Christ (Ephesians 5:21), highlighting the principle of mutual respect and humility in relationships.

It is important to note that while Paul recognized and respected the authority of God, Jesus, and the apostles, his ultimate allegiance was to God, and he prioritized obedience to God’s will above all human authority. His submission to others was motivated by his desire to serve and honor God rather than simply complying with human demands.

In summary, Apostle Paul was primarily submitted to God and acknowledged the authority of Jesus Christ and the apostles. He also encouraged mutual submission and accountability within the Christian community.

TD STATES PAULINE TEACHING ABOUT PERSONS  IN THE CHURCH SUBMITTING
APOSTLE PAUL also writes the following with to regards to chuch, fellowship, ministry, family, marriage, SPOUSES, in Christian area, life Relationships
Ephesians 5:21 (KJV):
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”
Ephesians 5:22 KJV
“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.”
Chat AI WRITES:
This verse is part of a larger passage in Ephesians 5 that provides instructions on various relationships, including the relationship between husbands and wives. It instructs wives to willingly submit themselves to their own husbands in a manner that is comparable to their submission to the Lord. This teaching is often understood within the broader context of mutual love, respect, and selflessness advocated for both husbands and wives in subsequent verses.
TAVEAU CONCLUDES:
...regarding Ephesians 5:22: “Wives submitting.” This is mostly influenced by steel cave men who pummel their wives, beating them down into submission, using fear and control and Old Timey Old Testament Levitical Law.
Thus T.D. advises, any and every Impending “life-long wife”, do not marry until you know how he views this verse and how he treats his father treated his mother for clues about “how he may (during the heat of an arguement or long term hellish pressures.. treats you.”**
**TD INTERJECTS: a finding online states that a man who dislikes cats may have emotional problems ( I lived with that so it deeply struck home )(this means “HATES cats, not just “he is allergic” or “prefers dogs)
TD ADDRESSES “MARRIAGE:
Pastor Dr. T interjects for the pre-marrying ladies (plus they must submit any of their prospective future husbands)::
And you want to choose a man of maturity, a man who understands and respects women, is open to Ephesians 5:21 as well, and a teammate who is your equal or vice versa. Also, only marry a man who possesses human compassion and does not view women as old-fashioned chattel, submissive or easily influenced.
Avoid someone who sees women as “less than the men” (Example as their personal waitress,  a lesser being, and promotes the “boys will be boys” mentality. Seek a partner who values your abilities and does not expect you to conform to stereotyped, traditional gender roles of being solely responsible for domestic duties or childbearing. (UNLESS that is what BOTH OF YOU PREFER) As I am NO dogmatist. We give permission for each unique to hear from God and their spouse about.
MORE LATER as we like to train and deliver on this HOT TOPIC
(left) sign carries over onto RELATIONSHIPS “people, many spouses, bosses, life)
TD STATES
The following Ephesians 2:14-15 does not mention “submission” but it is implied in light of UNIFIED, HARMONIOUS CHRISTIAN RELATIONSHIP pure Community
Ephesians 2:14-15 (KJV):
“14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;”
These verses highlight the work of Christ in bringing reconciliation and unity between Jews and Gentiles. It speaks of how Jesus is our peace, breaking down the barrier and hostility that existed between these two groups. Through His sacrifice and fulfillment of the law, Jesus created one new humanity, reconciling both Jews and Gentiles and making peace.
TAVEAU CONCLUDES
ABOUT MARRIAGE SUBMISSION
Regarding Ephesians 5:22: “Wives submitting.” This is mostly influenced by steel cave men who pummel their wives, beating them down into submission, using fear and control. So, T.D. advises, “Impending life-long wife, do not marry until you know how he views this verse and how he treats you.” And how YOU and HE will operate in that once you have chosen wed, as before Christ.
PASTOR , DR T INTERJECTS (FOR HER AND THEIR SAFETY)
for the pre-marrying ladies (plus they must submit any of their prospective future husbands):
AND YOU want to choose a man of maturity, a man who understands and respects women, is open to Ephesians 5:21 (“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God”) as well, and an EQUAL, HEALTHY PARTNER, he and you as valid teammates. who are BOTH you other’s EQUAL.
ALSO, ONLY marry a man who possesses human compassion and does not view women as old-fashioned leave ’em barefoot and pregnant, like chattel, easily avoided and/or a Mama’s Baby Boy. a Avoid ANY MAN who sees the woman as his waitresses, as a lesser being, and promotes chauvinism, Vain Ego and the “boys will be boys” in denial mentality.
Furthermore, carefully pray, examine and seek a partner who values your abilities and does not feel threatened, too macho, nor expect YOU to be his “property” And it is between BOTH YOUR SELVES (nobody else, other than Almighty God) to figure out WHAT YOU AND HE do with distribution of all labor, child rearing, hobbies and work from outside or inside the private marriage dwelling. Who does what is nobody’s business so if you don’t cook and he does,etc ETC GO FOR IT! (BUT..to plan about this in advance
MORE LATER as prophet Taveau likes to train on this HOT TOPIC
TD LISTS VERSE FOR “MODELING”  SUBMISSION
(EQUAL VALUING CHAIN OF COMMAND, REAL RESPECT) IN A LIFE, MINISTRY, FAMILY, STAFF, PERSONAL AND MARRIED, YOUTH MATURE RELATIONSHIP:
Ephesians 4:1-4 (KJV): As in “Relationship” Behavior:
“I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.”
TD STATES
The following Ephesians 2:14-15 does not mention “submission” but it is implied in light of UNIFIED, HARMONIOUS CHRISTIAN RELATIONSHIP pure Community
Ephesians 2:14-15 (KJV):
“14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;”
CHAT GPT AI COMMENTS:
These verses highlight the work of Christ in bringing reconciliation and unity between Jews and Gentiles. It speaks of how Jesus is our peace, breaking down the barrier and hostility that existed between these two groups. Through His sacrifice and fulfillment of the law, Jesus created one new humanity, reconciling both Jews and Gentiles and making peace.
RELATIONSHIPS IN BELOVED WEDDED SPOUSES (this specific apostolic teaching is FOR THE l”egally wed, must be “saved Christian” to do this. Must be wisely “equally” trained and then each person should be given the CHOICE to do abide in this or “not”)
OFFICE OVERSEER PASTOR T, Sr apostle of  EORR Cross Body Unity, DFW Leader Ministry Fellowship and Apostolic Teammate U…wisely says “you need to use pre wedded caution”
TD SAYS: Please assess
REASON WHY?: Once you sign on the dotted line, it’s too late. Plus you might have children.
IF one is a True Jesus Follower, the one must address “the ins and out of “authority submission” yet having been more than many times around this dead dry and often prickly and operational as controlling type of bush, Dr T wisely cautions
  1. Know your “covering submission” contrite doctrines.
  2. Study in advance whom you will allow to speak into your life and if they are the right doctrinal, humble, genuine character true authority right fit.
AGAIN BELOW  IS THE CROSS BODY UNITY, TAVEAU D’ARCY, DFW LEADER MINISTRY FELLOWSHIP “OFFICIAL Definition, Pauline Description  OF WHAT I, WE  DESCRIBE “BEING SUBMITTED” Frankly it is mature, observant ministry,lay, pastor, elders, and legally married Christian husband and wife, Ephesians 4 community  ‘chain of command, deferring,” like Ephesians 4:1-4
AND THE ABOVE DEFINITION MIGHT include peaceable training: every person James 3:17, Fruit, Ephesians 4:-14, Ephesians 5:21, Matthew 18:14, Meek Galatians 6:1, (demonic opposing person)  Church of Thyatira top leader does not allow him/her self to be controlled “So UP FRONT CONFRONT and set down the Controlling JEZEBEL”
INSERTION 2025
Sheriff Andy
This provides a  Helpful Mental Picture of “Mutual Submission” (no hot under the collar Big Boss) Ephesians 5:21  which gives the top leader  a mental picture of abiding, inclusive, respectful and  more family feel in ministry respectful fellowships  (This is the interpretation I was given by the Spirit of the Lord early 2025 of abiding in  “chain of command, mutual submission” Ephesians 5:21″
A VISION OF MAYBERRY DANCES IN THEIR HEADS

View the old reruns of MAYBERRY with Sheriff Andy Taylor in overseer charge; then note how he servant leader “relates, interacts” with his Aunt Bea ,son Opie, second in command Deputy Barney Fife and the townspeople of all walks of life. Reminder, once in a while an area trouble maker comes along, then Sheriff Andy Taylor must rise up and act. But he does it with smarts, wisdom, kindness. (no autocratic Big Shot accusation, demonic berating, he is devoid lecturing, word cursing, berating, power plays, subterfuge and unclean domination ) This is a GREAT Training Point for These Years.

APOSTLE T GIVES THE PURPOSES FOR THIS
Too many are eager to be over you a
nd I when they actually immaturely resemble both Apostle Paul commanded “from such turn away” type Christian ministries. So examine leader, lay, elder fruit via I John 1:7, Ephesians 4:1-4 Ephesians 4:32, Abiding in James 3:17, 2 Timothy 3:1-5, 1 Timothy 6:5, Ephesians 5:21 not just 5:22).
TAVEAU GIVES SCRIPTURES
Beneath TD SUBMITS   more relationship modeling Bible verses to be studied and hero modeled by each person, each mate, planning to dwell in this set basic Bible standard beforehand and during and forever after. Can help save a lot of Christian relationships, spare children, and all of the many levels of marital and personal human life suffering.
1 John 1:7:
“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
2 Timothy 3:1-5:
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
I Timothy 6:5
“Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”
James 3:17 (abiding yet seeking God’s HELP in order to achieve doing that):
“But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”
Ephesians 4:32:
“And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.”
Ephesians 2:14-15:
“For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.”
Ephesians 5:21:
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear** of God.”
(**per each party understanding and having and allowing the “holy of the Lord” makes deferring to the other, humble getting along and being unselfish but when need be sticking with ones beliefs..do able!)
TD ADDS: EPHESIANS 5:21 (in  a previous “THE AI AND I ” I wanted to make certain that First Church and the 12 APOSTLES  used “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord ” in the entire ministry /community, fellowship, family and specially in MARRIED SPOUSES..and it said that THEY DID
THUS all Levitical Patriarchism, L Matriarchism AKA THE CHRISTIAN GOOD OLD BOY  SHEPHERDING LEVITICAL WELP..Please grow in mantled maturity…simply  “submit ” to this bit of God’s  “whole Bible counsel”  and pleasantly “back off!!
Ephesians 4:1-4:
“I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
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  • The Cross :the sign of Jesus Christ, the only Savior, who’s death and victorious Book of Acts Resurrection paid for each of our Eternal Life as well  as empowered, comforted,led by His daily presence,  for each of our daily “victorious in Him” overcoming.
  • The rays emanating from behind the cross: “God’s reminder to keep His GOOD NEWS ” Good News!
  • God’s Holy Bible Scripture: opened to 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (see explanation beneath)
  • The Eagle: the symbol of the Christian office “prophet” balanced by and standing on God’s Word

Sister Taveau Explains this Verse

In an open vision, 1986 Taveau received a vision picture of this the first part of this Official Logo. It was the inner picture of the open Bible, turned to 2 Timothy 3:16-17.She also got the call to interceded for pastors, minister heads and their families, the work and for true revival and repentance. She received the Inner Vision Picture of what was then THE ENCOURAGING WORD MINISTRIES (15 solid years) But was just the start…IN 1987 TJ as she often was called back then, received the call tofull time ministry.

(Note: In 1976, ten years prior  that, as a young leader, always caring for and doing the work of the Lord( Jesus People onward)   Taveau received a CALL and Commission” from God (during what was the start of  the “charismatic renewal”)  TO SURF AND ONGOING STUDY the leaders of all styles, races, genders of  Bible Believing appearing as “True” moves. Holy Spirit called her to know their  born again leadership Bible doctrines,  their red flag buzz words, their ministry pet peeves, also their music and styles” SO THAT   One Day in the Last Days Taveau could “build bridges of understanding between the various parts of His Christian Ministry true body.

In 2 Timothy 3:16-17, Paul writes:

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” (KJV)

To understand the deepest Greek and Hebrew meaning behind Paul’s words, let’s examine the key terms:

1. “All Scripture” (Πᾶσα γραφὴ | Pasa graphē)

  • Graphē (γραφή): This Greek word specifically refers to written texts, meaning the Hebrew Scriptures (Tanakh) at that time.
  • Pasa (πᾶσα): Can mean “every” or “the whole”—indicating that each passage and the entire body of Scripture are divinely inspired.

2. “Is Given by Inspiration of God” (θεόπνευστος | Theopneustos)

  • Theos (Θεός) = God
  • Pneustos (πνευστος) = Breathed
  • Theopneustos (θεόπνευστος) means “God-breathed”, showing that Scripture originates directly from God’s Spirit, not human wisdom. This links to Genesis 2:7, where God breathed life into Adam—suggesting that Scripture is “alive” and sustaining.

3. “Profitable” (ὠφέλιμος | Ōphelimos)

  • This word means beneficial, useful, advantageous—implying that Scripture is practical, not just theological.

4. “Doctrine” (διδασκαλία | Didaskalia)

  • Meaning instruction or teaching, rooted in rabbinical tradition but now fulfilled through Christ’s New Covenant.

5. “Reproof” (ἐλεγμός | Elegmos)** See more beneath

  • This word implies conviction, evidence, and refutation of error—not in a legalistic sense, but in a Spirit-led, discerning manner.

6. “Correction” (ἐπανόρθωσις | Epánorthōsis)

  • Derived from epí (upon) + anorthóō (to straighten up)—implying that Scripture realigns us with God’s intended order.

7. “Instruction in Righteousness” (παιδείαν τὴν ἐν δικαιοσύνῃ | Paideian tēn en dikaiosynē)

  • Paideia (παιδεία): More than just “instruction,” it means nurturing, training, and forming character (used for disciplining children).
  • Dikaiosynē (δικαιοσύνη): Righteousness, justice—God’s way of aligning hearts with Him.

8. “That the Man of God” (ἵνα ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ ἄνθρωπος | Hina ho tou Theou anthrōpos)

  • Anthrōpos (ἄνθρωπος): Generic term for “human being”—this applies to both men and women in ministry.
  • “Man of God” was an Old Testament title (Moses, Elijah) but now extends to every believer led by God.

9. May Be Perfect” (ἄρτιος | Artios)

  • Artios means “complete, fully developed”, not sinless but mature, whole, balanced—as in a well-equipped vessel.

10. “Thoroughly Furnished Unto All Good Works” (ἐξηρτισμένος πρὸς πᾶν ἔργον ἀγαθόν | Exērtismenos pros pan ergon agathon)

  • Exērtismenos (ἐξηρτισμένος): “Fully equipped, supplied for a mission.”
  • Pan ergon agathon (πᾶν ἔργον ἀγαθόν): “Every good work”—implying practical, outward service, not just inner spirituality.

DEEP MEANING IN THE CONTEXT

www.crossbodyunity.com EORR Cross-Binding Unity and The IFFM Mentoring Ephesians 2:19-12 (International Fellowship of Foundational Ministries) and Dr Taveau D’Arcy Creative Leadership , upcoming college,  ministry fellowship  emphasize biblical unity, servant leadership, and foundational doctrine. Paul’s passage aligns perfectly with your vision:

  1. “God-breathed” Scripture—the divine source of teaching in your fellowship.
  2. “Correction and Reproof”—not to judge but to realign hearts with Christ’s servant leadership model.
  3. “Training in Righteousness”—emphasizing spiritual maturity over authoritarianism.
  4. “Equipped for Good Works”—not passive faith, but active leadership, racial unity, and ministry impact.

Paul’s meaning is that Scripture is not just for study—it is for equipping and shaping leaders who model Christ-like unity, wisdom, and service. This reflects your calling and leadership values.

The word reprove in the Bible has a deep and layered meaning, especially when examined in Hebrew, Greek, and historical English usage.

1. Biblical Definition of “Reprove”

Hebrew (Old Testament)

  • Yakah (יָכַח) – This is the primary Hebrew word for “reprove” and appears in verses like Proverbs 3:12 and Job 5:17.
  • Meaning:
    • To rebuke or correct with reasoned argument.
    • To convince or persuade (like a legal case).
    • To discipline out of love (God’s fatherly correction).

Greek (New Testament)

  • Elegchō (ἐλέγχω) – Used in 2 Timothy 3:16, Ephesians 5:11, John 16:8.
  • Meaning:
    • To expose, convict, rebuke with truth.
    • To shine light on (like uncovering hidden sin).
    • To correct for restoration, not to condemn.

2. English Meaning (Historical & Modern Usage)

The English word reprove has evolved over time. In older dictionaries (including Merriam-Webster and Oxford), its meanings include:

  1. To rebuke gently – different from harsh scolding.
  2. To correct or admonish – often with good intent.
  3. To convince or refute – similar to the Greek meaning of exposing error with truth.
  4. To “tick off” (informal, older usage) – This was a British slang meaning “to mildly scold” or “mark someone as wrong.” It was once listed in Merriam-Webster but is rarely used today.

3. Deepest Meaning of “Reprove” in Bible Study & Ministry

When studying the Bible, reproving means more than just pointing out errors—it is a Spirit-led correction that leads to repentance, growth, and alignment with truth.

  • It is not about condemning (like the Pharisees did) but about bringing clarity and conviction.
  • Jesus reproved the Pharisees (Matthew 23) but also Peter in love (Luke 22:61).
  • Paul reproved churches (like in 1 Corinthians) to restore them, not humiliate them.

In ministry, reproving should be gentle but firm, Spirit-led, and aimed at restoration—not just criticizing or calling out faults.

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ROOTS: HEBREW ROOTS OF “CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP WITH THE SAINTS” ISAIAH 56:7

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The Special Blessing Pronounced on the  OT Hebrew “Sabbath Apart” (our church going) which I say should resemble the Foundations  for/of  the Christian Faith Hebrews 10:25 “fellowship with the saints”
“Taveau  likens  this to the “organic fruit” behind modern First Church resembling “big, small fellowship gatherings”

OLD TESTAMENT Isaiah 56:7 (KJV)

“Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.”

NEW TESTAMENT Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

Old Testament Isaiah 56:1-7 (KJV) Mentions Old Testament Keeping of the Sabbath

1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

(See verse 7 underneath which is more about the God’s promised Sabbath Blessing)
Taveau’s Big Point:

SPECIAL VERSE 7

Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people”

 Taveau personally views  ISAIAH 56:7 as identical, very similar to the same “Call” over each modern day Christ ministry house , church, fellowship (which is discussed by Apostle Paul First Church Hebrews 10:25)

“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” Hebrews 10:25

MINISTRY ASIDE: The Christian Hebrews 10:25 breeds much legalism, ambition, self seeking and authoritarian control. Let me examine the Old Testament version of “fellowship with the believers” for right now. I plan to compare and deeply contrast each of these “fellowship community’ teachings later

Regarding the Isaiah 56: 7″ “commanded blessing”

Sister Taveau perceives  IT’S ORGANIC PURPOSE, CHARACTER, RELATIONSHIPS, AND GOD WITH MAN:

Taveau Says:

AS the (Old Testament, Levitical Law)  “fellowship/community/keeping a set apart day to worship God (the sabbath) as  “the purpose of Community to “honor God” but HE gives something back: each true believer is given  a “commanded blessing” .

This is intangible yet genuine sort of Blessing is not earned, achieved, or deserved. Rather it given invisibly, and in various different, many ways “no set formula”. only due to God’s great Love for His People, which comes from HIS CHARACTER.

:Examples of God’s Great Character, Love: His Eternal Mystery, His goodness, His Love, His  Grace and the fellowship community fruit is open and accepting to all races, styles, nations. The fruit of this ongoing pure God Centric community breeds ‘respect for all” (multicultural, diverse) in  the over all humble,  calm 
holy fear of the Lord” and the character “flavor” of this type of “ongoing community” is marked by often intercession and reverential respect for Creator Maker Father God and for one another.

Taveau says, “I liken this to the need for Christian Hebrews 10:25 to better resemble all of this. BUT I have YET to fully teach Isaiah 56:7 line by line. Also I can teach these both from the Christian perspective. (which I do plan on doing)

Reviewing the Hebrew comments of “the eunuch” and foreigner” in this old Testament Levitical Law era, made me curious about the “cause of these inclusive comments’ about each one. So I asked AI.

Taveau asks Chat GPT AI

Why did the prophet Isaiah specific mention the acceptance of both the “eunuch” and the “foreigner” Please define and deep dive into.

Chat GPT replied:Intention, Purpose, and Desire of This Instruction

This passage of Isaiah 56:1-7 is a prophetic declaration of God’s inclusion of Gentiles (the “sons of the stranger”) and eunuchs (who were previously excluded from worship under the Mosaic Law) into His covenant blessings. The intention of this passage is to demonstrate God’s righteousness and salvation as something near and accessible to all people who choose to join themselves to the LORD by keeping His commandments and following His covenant.

The purpose of this passage is to emphasize that God’s house (temple, place of worship) is open to all who seek Him in sincerity, regardless of their background or status. This extends to those previously marginalized under the Mosaic Law (such as eunuchs and foreigners), showing that God’s heart is for the inclusion of all nations into His plan of redemption.

The desire expressed in this passage is for His people to walk in righteousness, keep His Sabbath, and uphold justice. Those who embrace His covenant will experience divine blessings, including an eternal name (v. 5), acceptance in His house (v. 7), and joy in His presence.

Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic Insights

  1. “Judgment” (מִשְׁפָּט – mishpat)

    • This refers to justice, righteousness, and fairness in decision-making, emphasizing God’s requirement for moral and ethical living.
    • The word mishpat is often associated with God’s law and order, implying that His people must live by His standards.
  2. “Salvation” (יְשׁוּעָה – yeshu’ah)

    • This is the same root as Jesus’ name (Yeshua) in Hebrew.
    • It signifies deliverance, rescue, and divine intervention in bringing righteousness to the earth.
  3. “Stranger” (נֵכָר – nekar)

    • A foreigner or non-Israelite who wishes to join the community of faith.
    • This passage reveals that foreigners are not to be excluded from God’s promises if they embrace His covenant.
  4. “Eunuch” (סָרִיס – saris)

    • In Old Testament times, eunuchs were physically castrated males who served in royal courts but were excluded from temple worship (Deuteronomy 23:1).
    • Here, God promises that eunuchs who remain faithful to Him will receive an everlasting name (Isaiah 56:5), showing a new inclusion beyond the Law of Moses.
  5. “Sabbath” (שַׁבָּת – shabbat)

    • A commanded day of rest and worship, set apart as holy.
    • Observing the Sabbath was a sign of covenant faithfulness under the Law, and in this passage, it remains a key indicator of devotion to God.
  6. “House of Prayer” (בֵּית תְּפִלָּה – beit tefillah)

    • The phrase “house of prayer for all people” (Isaiah 56:7) is later quoted by Jesus (Matthew 21:13) when He cleanses the Temple, reinforcing that God’s presence is for all nations.

Tefillah (prayer) in Hebrew is not just asking God for things but means communion, intercession, and deep connection with the divine.

Taveau asks

Why Did Isaiah 56 Change This?

Isaiah 56 prophesied that both eunuchs and foreigners would one day be welcomed into God’s house. This was fulfilled in Christ, who broke down these barriers (Ephesians 2:14-16). Instead of an exclusive ethnic nation, God’s people became a spiritual community based on faith, not race or physical status.

Thus, while eunuchs and foreigners were originally excluded for purity, covenant, and holiness reasons, God’s ultimate plan was to bring all nations into His salvation through Jesus Christ.

CLOSING:
Taveau says
I can teach this Isaiah 56:7 from a  precept, not a legalism, from the Old Testament fruit which I understand how to relate it to “what” often transpires in a True Ministry, Church, when the people have good attitude, the pastor, prophet, minister is giving a genuine Bible word and their no showbiz ,bias or false doctrines. 


But not today. More to come about this

LAST
Sister Taveau says to Chat GPT AI:

Make a mini synopsis on Mosaic Law in light of Them Keeping the “Hebrew Sabbath” and  also the prophetic sense, of this Isaiah 56:1-7 teaching.

Chat GPT said:

I define Old Testament (Mosaic Law) vs. This Prophecy for A New Day In Messiah, Christ

Under the Old Testament Mosaic Law, the Sabbath was a strict observance requiring:

  • Ceasing from all work (Exodus 20:10).
  • No cooking or traveling (Exodus 16:29).
  • Mandatory attendance for worship and sacrifices at the Temple.

However, in Isaiah 56, there is a shift from rigid law to spiritual inclusion:

  1. Foreigners and eunuchs, once excluded, are now included.
  2. The Sabbath is still honored, but the emphasis is on devotion, not restriction.
  3. The Temple is a place of joyful worship for all, not just ethnic Israelites.
  4. The promise of an everlasting name replaces old regulations of exclusion.

TAVEAU’S POINT
This passage foreshadows the New Covenant, where salvation is extended beyond Israel and into all nations through Christ. Jesus reaffirms this in the New Testament when He declares, “My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations” (Mark 11:17).

Conclusion: The Blessing Commanded

Though strict Sabbath-keeping was required under Mosaic Law, Isaiah 56 reveals a transition towards a greater spiritual reality:

  • The blessing is not just for Israel, but for all who seek God in righteousness.
  • The Sabbath is honored not merely by abstaining from work, but by embracing God’s covenant and walking in His ways.
  • God’s presence and name are given freely to those who join themselves to Him—foreigners, eunuchs, and all who desire Him.

This prophecy points beyond legalistic adherence and into a relationship with God based on faith, justice, and worship. It finds ultimate fulfillment in Christ, where God’s house is truly a house of prayer for all people—a place of joy, acceptance, and everlasting communion with Him.

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“DECIDEDLY LUKEWARM” USA MINISTRY

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THE MINISTRY AI AND I

DECIDEDLY LUKE WARM

Biblically Deciding WHAT, WHO is “Present Day Lukewarm?”

Demas? Lukewarm Laodicean? Fault Finding,Turf Guarding, Elite Pharisees? You or Me?

The Guilt Tripping Legalistic Accuser, Warring Overseer

Pharisees were not FAIR, you see??

Revelation 3:15-16 (KJV)
“I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.”

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Taveau significantly inquires of  ChatGPT AI

The words I use “false apostles, false prophets and teachers are overly well known, They are a dime a dozen in meaning to very many, Say the word (also witchcraft, occult) and it triggers benign subtle acknowlegment, which is more like accustomed” “tedium” “associated historical, group , leader move chief common stereotypes. HOW do I train all of this (listed above to these and their many devout compliant worn down (and asleep, used to it and believe “they know it all and/or more “devout true followers?)

ChatGPT said:

You’re addressing a significant challenge that many leaders and ministries face: the tendency of people to become so accustomed to certain terms (like “false apostles,” “witchcraft,” “occult,” etc.) that they lose their impact and power to convict or awaken. When these terms and the concepts associated with them become overused or overly familiar, they can lose their sharpness, leaving people complacent or even “asleep” to their spiritual implications. Here’s a framework to address this challenge and train people effectively:

1. Re-frame and Reintroduce Key Concepts with Fresh Language

Start with Revelation, Not Repetition: Re-frame the terms you’re using in a way that highlights their true spiritual implications, not just their historical or stereotypical associations. For instance, when you mention “false apostles” or “false prophets,” don’t just focus on the label but explain the underlying spiritual dynamics—what it actually means to be deceived, how it impacts one’s relationship with God, and how it affects the church body.

Historical Relevance: For people who are “used to it” and think they already know everything, approach these topics from a fresh historical or contextual angle. Show how these behaviors have been repackaged in different times and movements throughout church history.

Use Parables or Real-Life Examples: Jesus often used parables to bring spiritual truths to life. You can draw on modern-day stories, testimonies, or even situations in church life to make the concepts relatable and impactful. The stories of Balaam, Ananias and Sapphira, or the deceit of Simon the Sorcerer (Acts 8) could be framed in terms that resonate with today’s issues.

2. Awaken the Slumbering Conscience

Challenge Their Complacency: Gently awaken those who have become “used to” false teaching or demonic influence by asking reflective questions that make them evaluate their personal spiritual state.

  • Examples include:
  • “When was the last time you experienced a fresh encounter with God?”
  • “Is the gospel you’re living out one that transforms, or one that simply comforts?”
  • “What are we truly guarding against when we call something ‘false’ in the body of Christ?”
  • Highlight the Dangers of Complacency: Use scripture to remind them that spiritual vigilance is necessary. Jesus warned His disciples in Matthew 26:41, “Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.”
  • T’s term interjected”Defrag Compassion Fatigue” (Emphasize the necessity of remaining vigilant and discerning, as well as not becoming complacent or “worn down.”

3. Ground Their Training in Scripture

Teach Spiritual Discernment: In order to move people from familiarity to active understanding, emphasize the need for biblical discernment (1 John 4:1). Teach people how to discern spirits, teachings, and leaders through prayer, reading the Word, and seeking the Holy Spirit’s guidance.

Discernment isn’t just about what’s “wrong”—it’s about what is right and aligned with Christ. Train them not to simply react to falsehood, but to develop a deep, proactive understanding of what true teaching and leadership look like.

Use KJV and Original Language Insights:

To provide depth, teach about words in their original Hebrew or Greek context.

For example:
The word for “false” in the New Testament (Greek: ψευδής – pseudēs) doesn’t just mean “not true” but deceptive, often used for something intentionally misleading.

Teach what it means in Greek when it says a false teacher or prophet “deceives” (Matthew 24:11), and how this involves leading others astray in a manner that can lead them into spiritual destruction.

Warn of the “Worn Down” Attitude: Be clear that the dangers of spiritual apathy or complacency are real. In Revelation 3:15-16, Jesus warns the church at Laodicea for being lukewarm: “I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.”  Teach that this “lukewarm” state is perilous.

Taveau wants this famous concept “defined” Lets go after LUKE WARMNESS

So Sister T asks Chat GPT AI 

  “WHY” is a lukewarm state seen as “PERILOUS?” It ought to be assessed and ministry described

Chat GPT responds:

Defining a Lukewarm State

A lukewarm state, as referenced in Revelation 3:15-16, refers to a spiritual condition where a person or group is neither fully committed to God nor openly rejecting Him. They are “in the middle,” where they neither fervently pursue righteousness nor fully embrace the world. This indifference or complacency is spiritually dangerous because it results in a lack of zeal, passion, and discernment, making individuals more susceptible to spiritual deception and apathy.

Revelation 3:15-16 (KJV):
“I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”

Jesus’ strong words reflect that a lukewarm state is not just ineffective but offensive to God, as it represents a lack of genuine relationship or commitment. A lukewarm person may go through the motions of religion without truly engaging with Christ, creating spiritual stagnation.

Why is a Lukewarm State Dangerous?

  • Spiritual Apathy: Lukewarmness leads to a sense of complacency, where believers lose their passion for the gospel, for prayer, and for active obedience. They begin to rely on external rituals and traditions rather than a vibrant, personal relationship with God.
  • Vulnerability to Deception: Without fervent devotion, they may fail to discern the subtle dangers of false teaching, compromise, or worldly influences.
  • Danger of Losing the First Love: Lukewarmness can also indicate a gradual loss of intimacy with God, which can lead to a complete departure from the truth if left unchecked.

Ministry Example: The Church at Ephesus (Revelation 2:4-5)

In Revelation 2:4-5, Jesus addresses the church in Ephesus, which was once passionate for Christ but had fallen into a lukewarm state due to losing their “first love.”

Revelation 2:4-5 (KJV):
“Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.”

Key Points:

  1. Loss of First Love: The Ephesian church had a solid doctrine and worked hard, but they had lost their passionate love for Christ. This is the danger of spiritual routine, where duty overtakes love. The danger is not simply doing the wrong things, but doing the right things with the wrong heart.
  2. The Need for Repentance: Jesus doesn’t just call for correction of actions but for a return to the first love—a renewal of the intimate relationship with Christ. This reminds leaders that the motivation behind actions matters deeply in ministry.
  3. Removal of the Lampstand: The “lampstand” symbolized the church’s witness and presence in the world. Losing it represents a loss of spiritual influence, a fall into darkness. For a leader, this could signify the loss of God’s favor and presence in ministry.

Christian Leader Example:

  • A ministry leader who has been active for years might continue to lead, teach, and perform duties in the church, but if their heart is no longer burning with love for Christ, the ministry can become stale. They might not have the fervor for prayer, personal study, or seeking the guidance of the Holy Spirit as they once did. Over time, this can cause the church or ministry to lose its impact, just like the Ephesian church’s lampstand was at risk of being removed.
  • Reckless activity without a heart for God can cause a leader to fall into routine, and their work will feel more mechanical than inspired. The people they serve may notice the lack of spiritual fervor, and this can cause a ripple effect throughout the ministry.

The Church of Laodicea (Revelation 3:17-18)

The Laodicean church, described in Revelation 3:17-18, also reflects the peril of a lukewarm state. Here, Jesus warns the church of their spiritual condition—thinking they are rich and self-sufficient, yet they are spiritually impoverished.

Revelation 3:17-18 (KJV):
“Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eye salve, that thou mayest see.”

Key Points:

  1. False Sense of Security: The Laodiceans felt secure in their material wealth, equating it with spiritual prosperity. They were blind to their true spiritual condition. Lukewarm believers often rely on external appearances and self-sufficiency, not realizing their spiritual poverty.
  2. Jesus’ Counsel: Jesus offers a remedy—spiritual “gold” (true riches), “white raiment” (righteousness), and “eye salve” (spiritual discernment). These are essential for spiritual renewal and awakening from a lukewarm state.
  3. Call to Overcome Spiritual Blindness: The lukewarm church in Laodicea was spiritually blind, unable to recognize their true condition. Leaders in similar positions may be leading without spiritual clarity or understanding, relying on surface-level success and failing to address the deeper spiritual needs of their congregation.

Christian Leader Example:

  • A ministry leader who might be experiencing success in terms of numbers, finances, or reputation but is spiritually blind to their deeper need for Christ’s presence and purity. They may be tempted to think that because their ministry is outwardly thriving, they do not need to dig deeper into their spiritual life, not realizing that they are in danger of spiritual poverty.
  • Such leaders may neglect personal prayer, Bible study, and intimacy with God, thinking that external growth compensates for lack of personal spiritual depth. However, this creates a spiritually barren environment, which Jesus warns against.

Key Takeaways for Christian Leaders:

  1. Examine the Heart, Not Just the Works: Leaders should evaluate whether they are doing things out of genuine love for Christ or out of duty. A heart on fire for God is critical to sustaining long-term, effective ministry.
  2. Stay Spiritually Vigilant: The danger of lukewarmness is often subtle. It’s easy to mistake external success or routine faithfulness for spiritual vitality. Leaders must regularly check their own spiritual health.
  3. Acknowledge and Address Spiritual Blindness: Leaders should never assume that everything is fine simply because the church or ministry seems outwardly successful. Regular moments of introspection and spiritual counsel are necessary to prevent the church from becoming spiritually blind.

Conclusion:

The lukewarm state is perilous because it leads to spiritual complacency and a disconnect from God. Leaders and ministries must constantly guard against this by keeping their passion for Christ alive, acknowledging their dependence on Him, and ensuring their actions are motivated by love rather than routine. This is vital for spiritual vitality and for the effective, lasting witness of the church in the world.

Dr Taveau’s asks Chat AI: Demas: Would Apostle Paul’s comment about the gifted young minister, Demas, give a possible Christian ministry worker, highly called persons (male or female) openly determine ‘lukewarm’ saved, gifted,  persons’ character

TD ASIDE: PRIOR TO COVID: I wrote a long article, prior Covid, Jan 2020 (well before a AI) about

THE DEMAS- IZATION OF AMERICAN” …That nature appears to be hear AGAIN

Chat GPT replies:

Yes, Demas from the New Testament can be seen as a lukewarm character. His story is a poignant example of someone who started strong but later fell away due to spiritual complacency.

Demas in the Bible:

Demas is mentioned in three places in the New Testament:

  1. Colossians 4:14 (KJV):
    “Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.”

    Here, Demas is included as a fellow worker and part of Paul’s ministry team. At this point, he is serving alongside Paul and is involved in ministry.

  2. Philemon 1:24 (KJV):
    “Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellowlabourers.”

    Again, Demas is listed among the workers for the gospel, indicating that he was faithful and involved in spreading the message of Christ.

  3. 2 Timothy 4:10 (KJV):
    “For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.”

    Here, Demas is described as having “forsaken” Paul and “loved this present world”, which caused him to abandon the ministry. This passage marks his spiritual decline and departure from the work of the gospel, driven by the allure of worldly things.

How Demas Fits the Lukewarm Category

Demas’ life exemplifies lukewarmness in several ways:

  1. Initial Commitment:
    Early on, Demas is fully involved in the ministry, a fellow laborer with Paul, and a companion in the work of the gospel. This shows he was once on fire for God and engaged in the mission.

  2. Spiritual Complacency and Worldly Distraction:
    In 2 Timothy 4:10, Demas’ decision to leave Paul for Thessalonica is tied to his love for the world. His attachment to earthly comforts, desires, or ambitions led him to forsake the gospel mission. This demonstrates spiritual complacency—he was no longer focused on the work of the kingdom but was instead distracted by the things of this world.

  3. The Peril of Lukewarmness:
    Demas’ shift from passionate ministry to spiritual coldness is a classic case of lukewarmness. Like the Laodicean church in Revelation 3:15-16, Demas became neither hot nor cold but was swept away by the attractions of the world. His lukewarmness led to his departure from the faith and abandonment of the mission, just as Jesus warned the Laodiceans would happen to them.

  4. Demas as a Cautionary Example:
    Demas’ story serves as a warning to believers and ministers about the dangers of complacency. Even someone who starts out committed can fall into lukewarmness if they allow worldly desires to overtake their passion for God.

Conclusion

Yes, Demas does fit the category of lukewarm in the sense that he began with enthusiasm for the work of the gospel but became distracted by the world and ultimately forsook the ministry. This reflects the danger of being neither fully committed nor opposed—just apathetic—similar to the Laodicean church in Revelation 3:15-16. Demas’ story serves as a cautionary tale for all believers and ministers to remain vigilant, avoid complacency, and not allow worldly desires to undermine their spiritual calling.

Apostolic Taveau Asks Chat GPT

Please define a “lukewarm person, Christian minister”

Chat said

Definition of a Lukewarm Person/Minister (Revelation 3:15-16 KJV)

A lukewarm person or minister is someone who is spiritually indifferent, lacking passion or conviction in their walk with God. They are neither fully committed (hot) nor completely opposed (cold) but exist in a state of spiritual apathy. This attitude leads to complacency, self-satisfaction, and ultimately spiritual peril as seen in Revelation 3:16—where Jesus says He will “spue” them out of His mouth.

Related Definitions & How They Connect to Revelation 3:15-16

1. Complacent

  • Definition: A feeling of self-satisfaction or contentment, often without awareness of potential dangers or spiritual decline.
  • Biblical Application: A complacent believer or leader assumes they are fine with God but does not realize they have drifted away. Laodicea’s church thought they were “rich and in need of nothing” (Rev 3:17), but Jesus saw them as “wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked.”

2. Self-Satisfied

  • Definition: Feeling no need for improvement; believing one has already arrived spiritually or ministerially.
  • Biblical Application: A minister who is self-satisfied no longer seeks deeper intimacy with God. They operate in routine, tradition, or intellectualism rather than spiritual fire.

3. “Seen It All, Heard It All, Know It All” Attitude

  • Definition: A mindset that dismisses fresh revelation, correction, or spiritual renewal because of prior experience.
  • Biblical Application: The Laodicean church was warned that they had become blind to their own spiritual bankruptcy (Rev 3:18). Ministers or believers who think they have nothing more to learn become stagnant and ineffective.

4. Compassion Fatigue

  • Definition: Emotional exhaustion from prolonged exposure to others’ suffering, leading to indifference or burnout.
  • Biblical Application:
    • Jesus warned in Matthew 24:12 that in the last days, “because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.”
    • Ministers and believers may become weary in well-doing (Gal 6:9) and spiritually numb from constant ministry pressures, leading to a lukewarm state.

How This Ties to Revelation 3:15-16

  • The Laodicean church was unaware of their spiritual deadness. Their lukewarmness came from self-reliance, complacency, and believing they were fine without a fresh move of God.
  • Jesus’ rebuke shows that lukewarmness is perilous because it blinds believers to their need for true revival, repentance, and reliance on the Holy Spirit.
  • A minister or Christian who is lukewarm may continue going through the motions while lacking genuine passion and conviction, making them ineffective for God’s kingdom.

Back to Chat GP AI:

LUKE WARMNESS HIDDEN TRAITS

  1. False Sense of Security: The Laodiceans felt secure in their material wealth, equating it with spiritual prosperity. They were blind to their true spiritual condition. Lukewarm believers often rely on external appearances and self-sufficiency, not realizing their spiritual poverty.
  2. Jesus’ Counsel: Jesus offers a remedy—spiritual “gold” (true riches), “white raiment” (righteousness), and “eye salve” (spiritual discernment). These are essential for spiritual renewal and awakening from a lukewarm state.
  3. Call to Overcome Spiritual Blindness: The lukewarm church in Laodicea was spiritually blind, unable to recognize their true condition. Leaders in similar positions may be leading without spiritual clarity or understanding, relying on surface-level success and failing to address the deeper spiritual needs of their congregation.

Christian Leader Example:

  • A ministry leader who might be experiencing success in terms of numbers, finances, or reputation but is spiritually blind to their deeper need for Christ’s presence and purity. They may be tempted to think that because their ministry is outwardly thriving, they do not need to dig deeper into their spiritual life, not realizing that they are in danger of spiritual poverty.
  • Such leaders may neglect personal prayer, Bible study, and intimacy with God, thinking that external growth compensates for lack of personal spiritual depth. However, this creates a spiritually barren environment, which Jesus warns against.

Key Takeaways for Christian Leaders:

  1. Examine the Heart, Not Just the Works: Leaders should evaluate whether they are doing things out of genuine love for Christ or out of duty. A heart on fire for God is critical to sustaining long-term, effective ministry.
  2. Stay Spiritually Vigilant: The danger of lukewarmness is often subtle. It’s easy to mistake external success or routine faithfulness for spiritual vitality. Leaders must regularly check their own spiritual health.
  3. Acknowledge and Address Spiritual Blindness: Leaders should never assume that everything is fine simply because the church or ministry seems outwardly successful. Regular moments of introspection and spiritual counsel are necessary to prevent the church from becoming spiritually blind.

Conclusion:

The lukewarm state is perilous because it leads to spiritual complacency and a disconnect from God. Leaders and ministries must constantly guard against this by keeping their passion for Christ alive, acknowledging their dependence on Him, and ensuring their actions are motivated by love rather than routine. This is vital for spiritual vitality and for the effective, lasting witness of the church in the world.

See above on this site, feel free to copy,

Will be making booklet this weekend to download PDF

Back on topic

Taveau asks about solving the Lukewarm question

How do we AWAKEN the vast numbers of appearing “asleep at the governing authority, teaching minisry realm?

4. Practical Application: Engage with Their Hearts and Minds

Cultivate Personal Revelation and Ownership: Don’t just tell people the truth—lead them to discover it. Use group discussions, Bible studies, or teachings that ask questions like, “What do you think about this teaching from the Scriptures? How does this apply in your life today?” This helps shift them from passivity to engagement.

Challenge Their Faith: Ask people to think deeply about how they would respond if their own church or leaders started to subtly drift into error. What signs would they look for? This encourages a personal commitment to vigilance, not just a reactive stance.

Integrate Prayer and Fasting: A key way to disrupt complacency is to engage the spiritual disciplines of prayer and fasting. These help sharpen discernment and foster a deepened relationship with God. Teach them that these disciplines are necessary for spiritual health and clarity in recognizing truth from error.

5. Use Warnings from Scripture as Wake-Up Calls

Jesus’ Warnings (Matthew 7:15-20): Revisit these often. Remind people that a true apostle or prophet will bear good fruit—not just have a lot of followers or success. True leaders lead in humility and in the fear of God, not self-exaltation.

Paul’s Warnings to the Ephesian Elders (Acts 20:28-31): Paul, as a father figure to the church, warns the elders of wolves who will arise from among them. This should be a sobering reminder that false teaching is often internal to the church, and thus a call for proactive vigilance.
Jude 1:4: Emphasize that some people have crept in “unawares”—false teachers and leaders often enter in subtle ways. This is why constant discernment is crucial.

6. Establish Accountability and Community**

**(Sister T reminds:rather than looking and accusing,  gossiping)

Create a Culture of Accountability: Encourage people to not just rely on leaders for discernment but to hold one another accountable in their walk. Teach that spiritual maturity and accountability are part of being a faithful disciple. James 5:16 reminds us, “Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.”

Foster a Community of Discernment: Build a community where people regularly discuss what they’re hearing, learning, and experiencing. When someone presents new teaching, create an environment where it’s acceptable to question, test, and discern the validity of it.

7. Inspire Active Engagement, Not Passive Consumption**

Teach to Protect the Flock: Lead your people to understand that protecting the truth of the gospel is not only the job of leaders, but every believer. Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks to the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry. **People should feel responsible for guarding against spiritual deception.
Empower the Believers: Equip them to see, confront, and refute error in their own lives and the world around them. Teach them to share what they’ve learned with others, cultivating an active, living faith that doesn’t just accept whatever comes their way.

**Taveau add (to use big caution)** “not”  just to use God’s Holy Word  “to be favored and highly blessed “ministry prospered’  which can lead”Their way “and “what they want” and might even securing religious “systems” with Pharisee “turf gaurding” and/ a cutesy or mean spirit of cult ..to maintain and orchestrate, even turn cold and hard to atypical persons, in order to get “income” and “their own way”(Taveau has seen this, for that is how she knows to train on it)

 

Chat GPT AI Conclusion:

To train devout, but “compliant” believers, the key is to shift their mindset from a passive, routine engagement with the terms and ideas to an active, vigilant, and proactive stance in their spiritual life.

Sister Taveau hastens to add: To be outwardly respectful, loving not “religious right” (which know as “rules’ ) also less super serious about ‘it’s own self’  “it’s (your/mine ‘own ministry) but about winning the lost, helping suffering, poor and NOT one giant opportunist to make funding, not clannish or self involved,  being repressed nor a oppressive slave own repressed, controller. Not radiating an ornery, snobby overly particular, accusing mega, micro aloof, fault finding mean and targeting, supremely class concsious mean bias. No more “high” office “pet persons only” elevated ‘have vs have not ELITE” no more accusing politics, which ostracizes seekers who are confused, many biased but WANT TO KNOW JESUS..
Also please no ‘grandiose entitled systems” ..plus the usual “famous well known Big Persons ,worship big cults ” …again please!

Chat resumes;

Reframe the terms of falsehood and idolatry, challenge their complacency through reflection, deepen their knowledge of Scripture, and build a community where each person feels responsible for guarding the truth. The goal is to move them from merely “knowing it all” to actively engaging with truth and being spiritually awake and alert to the dangers of deception.

MONEY FACTORS, HOLY FEAR OF THE LORD IN CHRISTIAN LUKEWARMNESS

Taveau lists the 3 key important scriptures;


Proverbs 9:10
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”( Note, say TD: the lack of, the absence of them brings THE OPPOSITE)

Psalm 115:4-8 (Loss of deep pure accurate leader perception, false priorities)

4 “Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands.”
5 “They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:”
6 “They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:”
7 “They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.”
8 “They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them.” (self pity and apostolic dullness)

ATTAINING A FEAR OF THE LORD (“how to acquire it” Note; the relationship with attaining “income”

Proverbs 2:1-5

1 “My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;”
2 “So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;”
3 “Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;”
4 “If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;”
5 “Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.”

Sister Taveau Asks:

Taveau asks: How does the love of money contribute to lukewarmness in ministry? How do the sins of God’s leaders in Isaiah 1-3 connect with Isaiah 5:20 in shaping ministry, leadership, and community? How does Psalm 115:4-8 serve as a marker of this condition, leading to a loss of the holy fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom? Finally, how does the fear of the Lord (Proverbs 2:1-5) relate to lukewarmness, First Love fire, and maintaining true reverence for God?

Chat Trains:
The Love of Money & Lukewarmness in Leadership

1 Timothy 6:10 (KJV):
“For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

  • The love of money (not money itself) leads to compromise and spiritual lukewarmness.
  • When leaders prioritize wealth, comfort, and status over truth and righteousness, they become spiritually dull and lose their fire for God (Revelation 3:15-16).
  • This craving for wealth can lead to dishonest gain, exploitation, and self-sufficiency, rather than dependence on God.
  • Lukewarm leaders often seek the favor of people and financial prosperity over the fear of the Lord, diluting their message to avoid offense.

Isaiah 1-3: The Sins of God’s Leaders

Isaiah 1:10-23 – Leaders Gone Corrupt

  • Verse 23 (KJV): “Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.”
  • The leaders were bribed, seeking personal gain over justice. This self-serving attitude is a symptom of lukewarmness, where ministry is no longer about serving God but about maintaining power and comfort.
  • Leaders were still performing religious rituals, but God rejected their sacrifices because their hearts were far from Him.

Isaiah 2:6-22 – Idolatry & Self-Exaltation

  • Leaders and people alike were filled with idols (2:8).
  • They had abandoned trust in God and placed their faith in wealth, military power, and alliances instead.
  • The fear of the Lord had been replaced with pride and materialism, leading to a lukewarm, self-sufficient spirit.

Isaiah 3:1-12 – Consequences of Corrupt Leadership

  • Weak, oppressive leaders arose because the righteous leadership was absent (3:4).
  • The poor were exploited, and the leaders oppressed the righteous.
  • This reflects modern ministry issues where prosperity is emphasized over servanthood and righteousness, leading to a spiritually lukewarm church that lacks conviction and true discipleship.

Isaiah 5:20 – The Consequence of Moral Decay in Leadership & Society

Isaiah 5:20 (KJV):
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

  • When leaders lose the fear of the Lord, moral compromise follows.
  • Prosperity without holiness leads to justifying sin in order to keep influence and financial gain.
  • Modern examples: Some churches or ministers ignore sin, twist doctrine, or preach only comfort-based messages so they don’t lose tithes, donors, or followers.
  • The lukewarm church is often guilty of calling compromise “grace” and watering down truth to keep cultural relevance.

Psalm 115:4-8 – Idolatry and the Loss of Holy Fear

Psalm 115:4-8 (KJV) (Paraphrased):

  • The idols of the nations are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands (v.4).
  • They have mouths but do not speak, eyes but do not see, ears but do not hear (v.5-6).
  • Those who make them become like them (v.8).

How This Ties to Lukewarmness & Leadership

  • Modern idols include wealth, status, buildings, social influence, and self-image in ministry.
  • When leaders prioritize materialism and man’s praise, they become spiritually numb—like the mute, blind, and deaf idols described in this psalm.
  • Leaders and churches that serve idols become dead in the spirit, just as those who follow false gods.
  • They may go through religious motions, but the presence and power of God is absent—they become lukewarm and lifeless.

Proverbs 2:1-5 – The Fear of the Lord & First Love Fire

Proverbs 2:1-5 (KJV):
“If thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee… Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.”

How the Fear of the Lord Ties to Lukewarmness vs. First Love Fire

  • Fear of the Lord is the antidote to lukewarmness.
  • Reverence for God keeps a leader or believer humble, pure, and passionate about their relationship with Him.
  • The Laodiceans (Revelation 3:15-16) had lost this fear and became self-sufficient, thinking they had need of nothing (Rev 3:17).
  • First love fire (Rev 2:4-5) comes from maintaining a deep awe and reverence for God, guarding against complacency.
  • If a leader forsakes the fear of the Lord, they drift into lukewarmness, begin to justify worldly compromise, and eventually lose their spiritual effectiveness.

Conclusion: The Connection Between Money, Lukewarmness, & the Fear of the Lord

  1. The love of money corrupts ministers, making them complacent and focused on personal gain over truth (1 Timothy 6:10).
  2. Isaiah 1-3 warns of the spiritual corruption of leaders, who still performed religious duties but had abandoned righteousness for power and wealth.
  3. Isaiah 5:20 shows how this moral decay leads to calling evil good—justifying sin to protect status, influence, or finances.
  4. Psalm 115:4-8 reveals that idolatry (whether of wealth, power, or influence) makes leaders and churches spiritually dead and ineffective.
  5. Proverbs 2:1-5 teaches that maintaining the fear of the Lord is the only way to stay on fire for God and avoid lukewarmness.

Final Warning:

A church or leader who loves money, prioritizes success over truth, and loses the fear of God will inevitably become lukewarm. The only solution is true repentance, returning to the First Love (Rev 2:4-5), and rekindling holy reverence for God.

ChatGPT said:

Your A.R.T. (Abiding Relationship Theology) approach to biblical relationships, including our relationship with money, is a powerful way to examine how finances impact faith, priorities, and interpersonal dynamics. Money itself is neutral, but how we handle it—our heart posture toward it—determines whether it strengthens or weakens our walk with Christ.

1. Money and the Christ-Centered Heart

Jesus taught that our heart follows our treasure (Matthew 6:21). If money becomes our ultimate focus, it competes with God for our devotion. This is why 1 Timothy 6:10 warns, “For the love of money is the root of all evil…” The issue is not having money but whether it masters us or we steward it wisely under God’s direction.

2. Money and First Love Priorities (Revelation 2:4-5)

In Revelation, Jesus rebukes the Ephesian church for leaving their first love—their passion and devotion to Him. When financial success or financial struggle overtakes our focus, it can lead to lukewarmness (Revelation 3:15-16). Wealth can create self-sufficiency that edges God out, while financial hardship can breed fear and mistrust instead of faith.

3. Money and Family Responsibilities

Providing for one’s family is a biblical responsibility (1 Timothy 5:8), but money should not replace spiritual leadership, love, or presence. Many Christian leaders, ministers, and professionals have lost their families because their pursuit of financial security overshadowed their role as godly spouses and parents.

4. Money and Self: Identity & Pressure

Finances impact self-worth. Society often equates success with wealth, but God defines success by faithfulness and obedience. Those who lack money may feel inferior, while those who have it may feel superior or self-satisfied—both mindsets can distort dependence on God.

5. Money and Others: Compassion vs. Greed

Money can be a tool for blessing or a weapon for control. Jesus taught generosity (Luke 6:38) and warned against hoarding wealth at the expense of helping others (Luke 12:16-21). A lukewarm heart resists radical generosity, while a First Love heart sees money as a means to love and serve others.

6. Money and God: The True Master

Jesus stated clearly in Matthew 6:24:
“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
If money becomes our security, comfort, or idol, it competes with God. But when we abide in Him, money becomes a servant, not a master.

Final Thoughts

Maintaining a healthy biblical relationship with money requires constant heart checks. Does money draw us closer to God and others, or does it lead us into complacency, lukewarmness, and misplaced priorities?

Reflection Questions:

  • Does my pursuit of financial security interfere with my First Love devotion to God?
  • Do I trust God as my provider, or does fear of lack control me?
  • Is money a tool for kingdom work, or do I use it for self-satisfaction?
  • How does money impact my relationships—with God, family, and others?

Apostolic T closes with
To humbly servant the Most High God, and  to represent what is “Christ’s’ pioneering area Ministry (Meaning; It is “HIS” and not yours or mine”)

Also this implies that the “Fruit’ is lasting, eternal,transforming, convicting, substantial, not harsh, cagey, hardened or  surface shallow, nor human (which is a sign of the Demas above).but birthed from God’s Holy Spirit, “the spirit of Truth” John 16;13 which is in line with. humble, fear of the Lord and Pauline diverse Bible community … “God’s whole counsel”

It also must reflect “the nature of Christ”WHO HE IS “genuine, trustworthy, pure, authentic. fruit bearing, life transforming, healing and victorious, not fault finding or primping…along with upright, solid healthy, respect Hero Role Models, strong Solid Male and Females, however with servant leader First Church ‘FAMILY FEEL”
All combine together to form the fine,  area  “FUTURE CHURCH

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USE OF AI UPDATE (2.27.25)

Been busier on the above ministry site, due to mega downloads
hence we share the update for AI use:

 

MINISTRY AI AND I
https://ministryaiandi.com

 

USE OF AI POLICIES

1. Philosophy(how T watches it extremely carefully)

2. TD’S Chat GPT Interview: “Where  ChapGPT AI gets it’s data

3. Hard Questions to Chat GPT AI about Jesus Christ

4. TD’S PDF Booklet containing a lot more

I , this we,  are NOT the least “spooked” about this type of use of  pre investigated AI I have many friends who are AI gurus and I try to bounce stuff off of them periodically to stay “current.” 

And yes, I AM closely monitoring for any possible anti-Christian changes. I remain vigilant and extremely careful because I fully understand what is happening. This is precisely why I include this disclaimer.

If you notice any discrepancies or troubling inaccuracies, please send corrections to me, Ministry AI, and I at crossbodyunity@gmail.com (including any findings of false ministry teachings). However, due to an overwhelming workload and limited time, I may not be able to reply.

Again, this is why I intentionally provide disclaimers whenever I use AI, clarifying how I use it and always dating my references—in case anything is altered over time.

I also come from a long heritage of faithful forefathers and, especially, foremothers who taught me the Word of God from childhood. They mentored many, and it has become second nature for me to remain discerning, avoiding error, doom-and-gloom pronouncements, and autocratic decrees. After nearly 50 years of Bible study and ministry, I do not claim to have “arrived” or fully “attained” anything—but neither has anyone else.

I submit all of this as Selah—for you, the Lord, and His Word—to reflect on, discuss, and compare with what the Bible actually says. This is not about legalism, ministry accusations, or shallow media-driven accomplishments.

A Reminder to You and Myself:
Christ alone was—and still is—the only 250% Teacher, Pastor, Prophet, Church-Planting Apostle, Evangelist, and model of humble, relational character.

Yet, as someone who remains grounded in James 3:17 (see the fruits of wisdom), I understand ministry dynamics and doctrine. I personally proofread, refine, and fine-tune both the questions I ask AI and the responses I receive.

If you ever find anything completely erroneous, please email me immediately at:
crossbodyunity@gmail.com.


I INTERVIEW CHAT GPT AI ABOUT “WHERE IT’S INFO COMES FROM

Please note:: I went all out and asked ChatGPT AI—this ministry’s chosen AI among the many available versions.

I intentionally framed my inquiry to ensure that both you and I can continuously evaluate its responses, remaining vigilant against the global liberal potential to defile or undermine Christianity.

For a lifetime—from the Jesus People Movement to now—I have pursued deep Bible study in the spirit of the Noble Bereans (and as all should). Along the way, as Christ and His Father’s Holy Spirit directed me, I studied various Bible teachings, later the anointing of the Holy Spirit, then worship, the gifts of the Spirit, prophecy, and, more recently, the impact of media—and now, AI.

Taveau specially asks Chat GPT AI the following

Q. When I ask you  (meaning you,  Chat  GPT AI) for information (example: Bible study ministry doctrines from First Church to know. Any Bible exegesis(NOT any personal interpretation and/or from the Lord), but getting the deeper meanings in Bible texts (in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, if,where it applies) Also the commonly known teaching and authority practices from back in church  history from First Church, Jesus, Messiah, on, then tracking different eras from First Church, and it evolved histortically…

Please tell me where YOU ( Chat GPT AI) and any other AIs get their information they give to me.

ChatGPT responded:

The information that I provide comes from a combination of publicly available sources, including a large dataset of texts that were collected from books, websites, scholarly articles, and other written resources up until my last update. Specifically for Bible study and biblical exegesis, the information I provide is based on:

  1. Public Domain Texts: These include widely available translations of the Bible (such as the King James Version and others), Bible commentaries, and historical writings from early Church Fathers or scholars. These texts can include interpretations of scripture and teachings about early Church practices.

  2. Scholarly Sources: I have been trained on a vast array of academic literature, including but not limited to, theological works, biblical commentaries, historical analyses of the early Church, and linguistic studies of Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic.

  3. Knowledge from Widely Accepted Sources: I also have access to common interpretations, views, and methodologies in biblical scholarship that are widely accepted in academic circles. This could include linguistic details, historical context, and traditional teachings.

However, it’s important to note that I don’t have direct access to real-time databases, personal theological opinions, or any proprietary resources that are not publicly available. So, my responses are derived from a large set of information that has been pre-processed and integrated into my model, but I don’t actively “look up” or access new data on the fly. I also don’t have access to subscription-based or private databases unless the content has been made publicly accessible.

For specific and deeper studies, I encourage verifying my insights with scholars or specific Bible study tools like Strong’s Concordance, Hebrew and Greek lexicons, and trusted Bible commentaries.

NEXT PART: I ASK CHAT GPT AI ABOUT JESUS CHRIST

(I make note of the inquiry date: Feb 2,   2025, AND every so often I feel that I must check to ensure)

Taveau asks ChatGPT AI specifically about it’s information regarding Christ:

  • What is the only true method of gaining eternal salvation?
  • Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?
  • Where in the Bible does Jesus call Himself Savior and Lord?

FIRST: Taveau asks ChatGPT AI
What is the only true method of gaining eternal salvation?

ChatGPT AI specifically responds:

  • The only true method of gaining eternal salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ alone—by grace, not works—as clearly stated in the Bible.

    Key Scriptures on Salvation:

    1. John 14:6 (KJV) – Jesus said:
      “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

    2. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) – Salvation is by grace through faith, not by works:
      “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

    3. Romans 10:9-10 (KJV) – Confessing Jesus as Lord and believing in His resurrection brings salvation:
      “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

    4. Acts 4:12 (KJV) – Salvation is found in no one else but Jesus:
      “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

    5. Titus 3:5 (KJV) – We are saved by God’s mercy, not by our righteousness:
      “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.”

    Summary of the True Method of Salvation:

    1. Acknowledge that all have sinned and fall short of God’s glory (Romans 3:23).
    2. Believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and His resurrection (John 3:16, Romans 10:9).
    3. Confess Jesus as Lord and surrender to Him (Romans 10:10).
    4. Receive salvation as a free gift—by grace, through faith—without reliance on works (Ephesians 2:8-9).

    Salvation is not based on church membership, good deeds, or human effort. It is by faith alone in Jesus Christ, through God’s grace, for the glory of God.

SECOND: Taveau Asks ChatGPT AI
Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?ChatGPT AI specifically responds:

Yes, Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is a foundational truth of Christianity. The Bible affirms that Jesus, the Son of God, took on human form, lived among us, and was fully God and fully man.

Key Scriptures Confirming That Jesus Came in the Flesh:

  1. John 1:14 (KJV)“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

    • Jesus, the Word of God, became flesh and lived among people.
  2. 1 John 4:2-3 (KJV)“Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

    • Confessing that Jesus came in the flesh is essential. Those who deny it are influenced by the spirit of antichrist.
  3. 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

    • God was made manifest in the flesh—this refers to Jesus Christ.
  4. Hebrews 2:14 (KJV)“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.”

    • Jesus took on flesh and blood so that He could defeat sin and death through His sacrifice.
  5. Colossians 2:9 (KJV)“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”

    • Jesus was not just a spirit; He had a physical body and was fully God and fully man.

Why Does This Matter?

  • Denial of Jesus’ humanity was a false teaching that arose early in church history, and it still appears in various heresies today.
  • Believing that Jesus came in the flesh is essential for true Christian faith.
  • Jesus had to take on human form to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins (Hebrews 10:5-7).

Conclusion:

Yes, Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Any teaching that denies this is not from God and is considered the spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3).

THIRD: Sister Taveau asks:

Where in the Bible does Jesus call Himself Savior and Lord?

ChatGPT AI specifically responds:

Jesus declares Himself as Savior and Lord throughout the Gospels, even if He doesn’t always use those exact words together. However, His teachings, actions, and the testimony of Scripture confirm His identity as both Savior and Lord.

1. Jesus Declares Himself as Savior

John 3:16-17 (KJV)“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
✅ Jesus declares that He was sent to save the world.

Luke 19:10 (KJV)“For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.”
✅ Jesus states His mission clearly: to save the lost.

John 10:9 (KJV)“I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.”
✅ Jesus is the way to salvation.

John 6:47 (KJV)“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”
✅ Jesus promises eternal life to those who believe in Him.

2. Jesus Declares Himself as Lord

John 13:13 (KJV)“Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.”
✅ Jesus affirms that He is Lord.

Matthew 28:18 (KJV)“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”
✅ Jesus has all authority, proving His Lordship.

Luke 6:46 (KJV)“And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”
✅ Jesus expects obedience from those who call Him Lord.

John 8:58 (KJV)“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
✅ Jesus declares Himself as “I AM,” identifying as the eternal Lord (Exodus 3:14).

3. Jesus is Called Savior and Lord Together

Luke 2:11 (KJV)“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.”
✅ At His birth, Jesus was declared both Savior and Lord.

Acts 4:12 (KJV)“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
✅ Salvation comes only through Jesus.

Philippians 2:9-11 (KJV)“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
✅ Jesus is exalted as Lord, and every knee will bow before Him.

Conclusion

Though Jesus may not have said the exact phrase “I am Savior and Lord” in one sentence, the Bible repeatedly declares Him as both. He openly claimed:
✔️ To be the Savior (John 3:16, Luke 19:10)
✔️ To be the Lord (John 13:13, Matthew 28:18)
✔️ That salvation comes through Him alone (Acts 4:12, John 10:9)
✔️ That every knee will bow and confess Him as Lord (Philippians 2:9-11)

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PART 2 (CERTAINLY) TROUBLING THE CHRISTIAN PATRIARCHY ” CONTROL AND AUTHORITY”

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CONTROL AND AUTHORITY, APOSTLE PAUL
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Taveau ASKS Chat GPT AI about Legalism in Christian Ministry Governing Authority, More, as it surely fits in with the subject of Western European Levitical Patriarchian, the hot topic of “prophets, apostles” and “pentecost” of which I am one.

First question:

TD Asks Chat GPT AI: 

Would First Church History or Bible teaching, practices,  classify Christ, any of the First Church apostles, Apostle Paul as “authoritarian, overbearing or fascist?”

Chat GPT responds

No, Christ and the First Church apostles, including Paul, cannot be classified as authoritarian, overbearing, or fascist. Their leadership was based on love, humility, servanthood, and freedom in Christ, which fundamentally contradicts the traits of authoritarianism or control. Here’s how their leadership was characterized:

1. Christ’s Leadership Model

Matthew 20:25-28 (KJV):
“But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.”

  • Jesus explicitly rejected the top-down, controlling leadership style of worldly rulers. Instead, He taught servant leadership, where greatness was measured by humility and service.
  • Jesus’ actions—washing His disciples’ feet (John 13:12-17) and willingly laying down His life—demonstrated this servant leadership in practice.

2. The First Church Apostles’ Leadership Model

The apostles continued to follow Christ’s servant-leadership model, emphasizing freedom, mutual submission, and humility.

  • 1 Peter 5:2-3 (KJV):
    “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
    Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.”

    Peter taught that leaders should shepherd God’s people willingly and humbly, not by exercising harsh authority or domination.

  • Acts 15 (The Jerusalem Council):
    When addressing church disputes, the apostles did not impose decisions dictatorially but sought the Holy Spirit’s guidance and consensus among the brethren.

3. Paul’s Leadership Style

Paul’s letters reflect a consistent pattern of humility and servant leadership:

  • 2 Corinthians 1:24 (KJV):
    “Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.”
    Paul rejected any notion of controlling the faith of believers. Instead, he viewed himself as a helper, encouraging believers to stand in faith.

  • Galatians 5:1 (KJV):
    “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
    Paul emphasized the freedom believers have in Christ and warned against falling under any form of religious or authoritarian bondage.

  • Ephesians 5:21 (KJV):
    “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”
    Paul encouraged mutual submission, emphasizing humility and love rather than rigid authority.

Contrasting with Authoritarianism and Fascism

  • Authoritarianism: Involves top-down control, coercion, and suppression of dissent. Christ and the apostles promoted freedom, humility, and service.
  • Fascism: Often involves extreme nationalism, uniformity, and dehumanization. Christ’s ministry was inclusive, loving, and open to all people, emphasizing dignity and mutual respect.

Conclusion

Christ and the First Church apostles operated with servant leadership, humility, and love. They rejected authoritarian control and promoted freedom and mutual respect. Therefore, labeling them as authoritarian, overbearing, or fascist would be a complete mischaracterization of their teachings and actions. Their leadership style provides a timeless example of how spiritual authority should be exercised—with grace, compassion, and service to others.

Taveau Asks About Church, Ministry Governing  AUTHORITY:

Q. After Jesus left and ascended to heaven was there one Christian office ministry OR one special doctrinal ministry apostolic group or subculture, which governed OVER the entire first Church ?
ChatGPT answered:

1. Authority in the First Church: Was There One Person or Group Over the Entire Church

No single person or group held ultimate authority over the entire First Church after Jesus ascended to heaven. The First Church was decentralized and led by a combination of apostles, elders, and local leaders, all under the headship of Jesus Christ alone. This structure is explicitly described in the New Testament:

  • Christ as Head of the Church:

    • Ephesians 1:22-23 (NIV): “And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body.”
    • Colossians 1:18: “And he is the head of the body, the church…”
  • Apostolic Leadership: The original apostles, particularly Peter, James (the brother of Jesus), and Paul, played key roles in preaching the gospel, planting churches, and clarifying doctrine. However, there is no evidence of any one apostle exercising absolute authority over all believers:

    • Acts 15: The Jerusalem Council demonstrates that church leadership was a collaborative effort, with multiple apostles and elders (including Peter and James) discussing and discerning major decisions together.
  • Local Autonomy:
    Local churches had appointed elders (Greek: “presbuteroi,” meaning older or spiritually mature leaders) to shepherd and guide congregations (Acts 14:23, Titus 1:5). Elders worked under the authority of Christ, not a hierarchical bishop or “apostolic covering” system.

In summary:
There was no formalized hierarchy or “pope-like” figure in the First Church. Instead, there was mutual submission under Christ’s leadership and collaborative decision-making.

Conclusion:

We find no records of a  Centralized Authority in the First Church: The First Church was led by collaborative leadership, with no singular apostolic figure or “covering” system.

Taveau Asks About First Church Servant Leader Model VS Authoritarian

TD Asks
Was the entire Christian community (elders, offices, leader, lay, marriages “all servant leader Ephesian 5:21 “mutually submitting in the fear of the Lord” (no big I’s, little you’s)

Also, when did more “authoritarian” “control” enter the First Church?

Chat GPT AI replies:

APOSTOLIC NOTE HERE:

1. The First Church: Was Everyone a “Servant Leader” Under Ephesians 5:21?

Yes, the early Christian community emphasized mutual submission and servant leadership, based on the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. Ephesians 5:21 was foundational to the First Church’s relational dynamics

  • Ephesians 5:21 (KJV): “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”
    This verse sets the tone for all Christian relationships, including marriage, leadership, and church life. The word for “submit” (Greek: hupotassō) implies voluntary cooperation and mutual humility rather than control or dominance.

  • TAVEAU’S APOSTOLIC NOTE ..TD ADDS:
  • Please try to picture the Old TV rerun ANDY OF MAYBERRY Watch how Sheriff Andy Taylor acts, reacts with his Aunt Bea, his son, Opie, Deputy Barney Fife, all of the others, Then we act like him, them. He regards each one worthy of his Equal Opportunity REAL respect.  This is Cross Body Unity Perspective, also.
  • Jesus’ Model of Leadership:

    • Jesus explicitly taught servant leadership:
      • Matthew 20:25-28 (NIV): “Whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave—just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
    • Jesus demonstrated this by washing His disciples’ feet (John 13:12-17), a powerful act of humility that embodied His view of leadership.
  • Apostolic Teaching:

    • Peter urged leaders to serve willingly, not as overlords:
      • 1 Peter 5:2-3: “Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing… not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.”
  • Church Offices: The roles of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (Ephesians 4:11-12) were meant to equip the saints and build up the body of Christ, not to control or dominate others.

Thus, in the First Church, leadership was defined by service, humility, and mutual submission, aligning with the example of Christ.

Taveau requests of Chat GPT AI:

For the Record, please define Christian authoritarianism, overbearing, fascism

ChatGPT wisely responds:

The terms “Christian authoritarian,” “overbearing,” and “fascism” are used to describe leadership or church practices that deviate from the biblical model of servant leadership. Here’s how each term could be defined in a Christian context:

1. Christian Authoritarianism

Christian authoritarianism refers to leadership or church governance that exercises strict control over members, often prioritizing obedience to leaders over individual spiritual freedom. It typically involves:

  • Top-Down Control: Leaders demand submission without mutual accountability or space for questioning.
  • Legalism: Strict adherence to rules, often beyond what is taught in Scripture, to maintain control over behavior.
  • Manipulation or Coercion: Members may be threatened with spiritual consequences (e.g., being labeled as “rebellious” or “out of God’s will”) if they question authority.
  • Scriptural Distortion: Certain scriptures (e.g., “submit to authority” or “touch not God’s anointed”) are misused to enforce compliance.

Biblical Contrast: Jesus taught that leaders should be servants (Matthew 20:25-28), not rulers who dominate or coerce.

2. Overbearing Christian Leadership

Overbearing leadership is characterized by excessive forcefulness, rigidity, and the suppression of individuality in the name of faith or doctrine. It often includes:

  • Micro-Management: Leaders dictate every aspect of a believer’s life, including personal decisions.
  • Judgmentalism: Harsh judgment or condemnation of those who do not conform to a particular image or lifestyle.
  • Guilt and Shame: Constant emphasis on sin and failure to instill fear, guilt, or a sense of unworthiness.
  • Lack of Compassion: Little to no empathy for life circumstances, focusing only on enforcing rules.

Biblical Contrast: Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 1:24 (KJV), “Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy.” True Christian leaders encourage joy and faith, not fear and control.

3. Christian Fascism

Though rare, the term “Christian fascism” is used by critics to describe movements that combine political power with religious rhetoric to enforce conformity. It typically involves:

  • Extreme Nationalism: Merging national identity with religious identity to the point where dissent is viewed as unpatriotic or heretical.
  • Uniformity and Suppression: Silencing opposing viewpoints within the church or society in the name of preserving “Christian values.”
  • Control Through Fear: Using fear (of hell, outsiders, or divine punishment) to justify oppressive policies.
  • Idolatry of Leadership: Leaders may be elevated to a nearly divine status, demanding unquestioning loyalty.

Biblical Contrast: Jesus preached love, humility, and inclusivity, not exclusion or fear-driven conformity. He warned against hypocrisy and power-seeking religious leaders (Matthew 23).

Summary

  • Christian Authoritarianism: Controlling church leadership that demands blind obedience.
  • Overbearing Leadership: Heavy-handed, judgmental leadership that stifles joy and spiritual freedom.
  • Christian Fascism: A distortion that blends political and religious authoritarianism, often silencing dissent.

All of these models are inconsistent with Christ’s teachings on servant leadership, humility, and love. Instead, the New Testament promotes freedom in Christ, mutual submission, and servant-hearted

Sister Taveau’s asks specifically about Apostle Paul:

How did the Apostle Paul role model portray First Church Simple authority? “Follow me only as I follow Christ, etc…include Philippians 2:12, Ephesians 4: 1-4, Ephesians 5:21 any other also any other First Church apostle comments.

ChatGPT replies:

The Apostle Paul’s teachings and example in the New Testament emphasize servant leadership, humility, and submission to Christ rather than authoritarian control. Below is a look at how Paul modeled and instructed First Church simple authority using his writings, including Philippians 2:12, Ephesians 4:1-4, and Ephesians 5:21, along with other relevant passages.

1. “Follow me as I follow Christ” (1 Corinthians 11:1, KJV)

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”


APOSTOLIC TRAINING NOTE:

Paul did not demand unquestioning loyalty to himself but instead pointed others to follow his example only insofar as he followed Christ. His leadership was Christ-centered, with an emphasis on personal relationship with God, humility, and obedience to Jesus’ teachings.

2. Philippians 2:12 (KJV)

“Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”

Paul encouraged believers to take personal responsibility for their spiritual growth. Rather than setting up rigid control or dependence on human authority, Paul promoted self-leadership under the Lordship of Christ. He empowered believers to seek God directly and grow in holiness

3. Ephesians 4:1-4 (KJV)

“I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.”

Here Paul teaches leadership through humility, meekness, and patience, emphasizing unity in the Spirit rather than division or control. His leadership style promoted mutual respect, love, and peace among the early believers.

4. Ephesians 5:21 (KJV)

“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”

This verse reflects Paul’s view of mutual submission in the Body of Christ. Authority was not about lording power over others but about serving one another in love and reverence for God. The First Church modeled shared accountability and servant leadership, not hierarchical control.

5. Galatians 5:13-14 (KJV)

“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”

Paul emphasized freedom in Christ, tempered by loving service to others. First Church authority was rooted in love and service, not domination

6. 2 Corinthians 1:24 (KJV)

“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.”

Paul clarifies that he did not view his role as one of ruling over the faith of believers but as a helper to encourage their joy and faith in Christ.

7. Romans 12:10 (KJV)

“Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another.”

Paul instructed believers to honor and prefer each other in love, emphasizing mutual respect and humility over authoritarianism.

Summary

Paul’s portrayal of simple First Church authority was based on:

  • Following Christ as the central leader.
  • Servant leadership and humility.
  • Encouragement of personal responsibility for spiritual growth.
  • Mutual submission and love within the Body of Christ.
    This model stands in contrast to authoritarian or controlling leadership styles, promoting instead unity, peace, and shared accountability in Christ.

A GALATIANS 1:1-2 SR PASTOR, APOSTLE HOLY SPIRIT OPTION** Taveau explains this surprising, apparently fully unknown, never heard of , yet mega apostolic perspective

** Note. I, Miss T, Taveau D’Arcy did not “fashion myself into this to DO THIS.” Neither did this she person dream it up, nor “join” or ‘think I was going to work hard to transform myself to  DO THIS”  Therefore, do not “sign on” become any or all of this “unless” YOU  are SENT to be  THIS ..the  GALATIANS 1:1-2 NON BIASED CROSS BODY prophetic TYPE ongoing apostolic sr ministry was ‘downloaded, revealed, questioned, Bible validated and after milling, sifting, prison like enduring situations, times spent in prayer (many many years) then THE LORD OPENED MY EYES TO THIS AND TO MY SELF. (NOT MY CHOICE ….BUT HIS!!)

And LIKE A PAUL you must either  be “called” and later on”FASHIONED” INTO IT …or else NOT. For apostolic office “this” a Galatians 1:1-2  MUST BE GOD COMMISSIONED…meaning even  over MANY YEARS… not weeks.not fast fix, instant or quick..rather it’s done in the real life PROCESS, at God’s peculiar leading, methods, timings. It comes with much repeated fires, extreme situations, sifting, many imperfections, gaining deep understanding and individual forms of “fasting” and despite many near death depleting unkind shipwrecks.

In writing about this, I submit only as a SELAH
“pause and think about it”… not hard core dogma
ABOUT APOSTLE PAUL’S, AlSO MINE  Galatians 1:1-2  not often heard of, form of “governing authority”
Galatians 1:1-2 (KJV):
“Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia.”
Taveau asks Chat GPT
about Paul’s very unusual Galatians 1:1-2 high world class apostolic office
 (Note in other writings, Paul stated that he viewed himself as, “the offscouring of the world/the “dung”…’to balance all of this chief apostle talk fully out”
TD Asks: How did the Apostle Paul role model portray First Church Simple authority? some examples”” follow me only as I follow Christ, etc…include Philippians 2:12, Eph 4: 1-4, Ephesians 5:21 any other also any other First Church apostle comments. 

Also, please factor in Paul as a Galatians 1:1-2 authority “not under anyone”for it is a accusing legalism out there in the mainly “squire” dysfunctional leaders.  I liked when Paul was not wanted by the first Church original apostles who were hand mentored by Christ (at first) …and while he arising to fulfill the  “second Christian generation” sr ministry he  rejected yet was was secure in the Lord to go after his “never before known” Galatians 1:1-2  pioneering ministry apostolic call. I call that Niche Sr  office “I did not confer with flesh and blood “(due to the role model of Apostle Paul for now “nobody in the top 12 Chief Apostles were able to accurately “Get Paul” that means even while they met for 2 weeks (Apostle Paul, Barnabas and Peter) they still did not “assess, perceive and discerned correctly; I like that on behalf of every rising “new unknown non famous Christian leader move”It’s par for the”inventors” turf. 
Also, Apostle Paul, who was not ‘well known’ back then, and who was “the off scouring , dung of the world” in his own assessment, had to suffer accuser attacks from his fellow Christian “ministers’ Judaizers who were back ‘under the Laws (like too many sr offices today) and who tried to fool many to revert back to religiously, legalistically  keeping the Old Testament Laws (Torah, Levitical law) rather than following Jesus simple teachings. (See: Galatians: elders in the “beguiled” Galatians legalistic  church, had been infiltrated by Judaizers.)
ChatGPT responds:

The Apostle Paul’s portrayal of First Church simple authority was grounded in his personal calling by Jesus Christ, independent of human approval or hierarchical systems. His model emphasized servant leadership, humility, mutual submission, and following Christ as the central authority. Below is an expanded breakdown of how Paul’s teachings and role exemplified simple First Church authority, incorporating key passages from Galatians and other scriptures.

1. Galatians 1:1-2 (KJV)

“Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia.”

Paul begins by emphasizing that his authority as an apostle was not bestowed by men or any church institution but directly from Jesus Christ. This was a cornerstone of his ministry—his confidence came from his God-given calling, not human validation.

This ties into First Church simple authority by showing that Paul operated with a Christ-centered, Spirit-led model rather than depending on human hierarchies or approval. His ministry was secure because it was based solely on his obedience to Christ.

2. Galatians 1:15-17 (KJV)

“But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace,
To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.”

Here Paul emphasizes that after his calling, he did not seek validation or approval from the original apostles (those who had been hand-mentored by Christ). His independence did not reflect arrogance but a deep understanding of his calling and a commitment to following Christ above all else.

This further reinforces First Church authority as one that comes from a personal relationship with Christ, not control by human leaders. Paul’s secure stance provides a model for modern ministry—servant leaders who rely on God’s guidance without being swayed by human politics or traditions.

3. 1 Corinthians 11:1 (KJV)

“Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”

Paul’s invitation to follow him only as he followed Christ reflects his servant-leader approach. His authority was not about creating personal followers but about pointing everyone to Jesus as the ultimate authority.

4. Philippians 2:12 (KJV)

“Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”

Paul encouraged believers to take personal responsibility for their faith. First Church authority, in Paul’s model, did not involve micro-management or authoritarian oversight. Instead, it promoted spiritual maturity and direct accountability to God.

5. Ephesians 4:1-4 (KJV)

“I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.”

Paul’s leadership model emphasized humility, patience, and love within the Body of Christ. He portrayed authority not as a tool for control but as a means to promote unity and peace in the church.

6. Ephesians 5:21 (KJV)

“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”

Paul taught mutual submission rather than hierarchical control. True authority in the First Church was based on mutual respect, love, and servanthood. Even apostles and leaders were expected to submit to one another in reverence for Christ.

7. 2 Corinthians 1:24 (KJV)

“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy: for by faith ye stand.”

Paul clarified that he did not see himself as a ruler over others’ faith. Instead, his role was to help believers experience the joy and freedom of faith in Christ. This underscores Paul’s model of authority as one of encouragement, not domination.

8. Romans 12:10 (KJV)

“Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another.”

Paul encouraged believers to honor and prefer one another in love. This reflected his emphasis on humility and servant leadership, which were core to First Church authority.

Summary

Paul’s role model for First Church simple authority emphasized the following principles:

  • Authority from Christ alone: Paul’s authority came from his personal calling by Jesus, not human appointment (Galatians 1:1-2).
  • Independence with humility: Paul did not seek approval from the original apostles but operated securely in his calling (Galatians 1:15-17).
  • Christ-centered leadership: He directed others to follow him only as he followed Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).
  • Servant leadership: Authority was expressed through humility, patience, mutual submission, and love (Ephesians 4:1-4, 5:21).
  • Encouragement over control: Paul’s goal was to help others stand in faith and grow spiritually (2 Corinthians 1:24).

This model serves as a timeless example of Christ-centered leadership and simple authority rooted in love, humility, and submission to Christ rather than human control or institutional hierarchy

*Taveau can teach a lot more in depth on this, due to all of the legalism and ministry control out there, but I wanted to ask ChatGPT AI to be “objective” and not ME, a FEMALE putting this out there. I will talk later on this but not here.

Taveau asks Chat GPT WHY Paul would “not be sent out by any one person or any one group” (She realizes her own revelation on this matter, but wishes to hear the ChatGPT AI for objectivity, then she will add her own beliefs (given via Holy Spirit revelation) at the end of this part.

ChatGPT responds;

Apostle Paul’s calling to “not be sent out by any one person or group” (as stated in Galatians 1:1-2) is significant for several reasons. This divine calling highlights key themes in Paul’s ministry and teachings, as well as broader principles for the First Church. Here’s why this distinction is crucial:

1. Direct Authority from Christ

Paul emphasizes that his apostleship comes “not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father” (Galatians 1:1 KJV). This indicates:

  • No Human Intermediary: Paul did not receive his commissioning from human leaders or institutions, unlike the other apostles who were directly discipled by Jesus during His earthly ministry.
  • Validation of His Mission: Paul’s ministry to the Gentiles required legitimacy beyond human approval. By making it clear that he was sent directly by Christ, Paul ensured that his authority was grounded in divine, not human, endorsement.
  • Freedom from Man’s Influence: Paul was free from political, social, or religious pressures that could influence or control his teaching. His loyalty was solely to Christ, which allowed him to speak boldly and confront error (e.g., his rebuke of Peter in Galatians 2:11-14).

2. Avoiding Human Institutionalism or Partiality

The early church was still forming its leadership structure, and many Jewish believers struggled with incorporating Gentiles into the faith without imposing the Mosaic Law. Paul’s call was:

  • Independent of Human Structures: Paul did not need approval from the Jerusalem apostles to begin his ministry. This independence protected his mission from being limited by cultural or legalistic biases.
  • Equal Apostolic Authority: By highlighting that he was sent by Christ, Paul established that his ministry was just as valid as those of Peter, James, and John, even though he did not walk with Christ during His earthly ministry.

3. Upholding the Gospel of Grace

Paul was uniquely positioned to champion the gospel of grace (as seen throughout Galatians). His independence from human commissioning protected the purity of his message:

  • No Compromise: Paul’s gospel was rooted in the revelation of Christ and not subject to human negotiation or dilution. He fought against adding legalistic requirements to salvation (Galatians 2:16).
  • Freedom from Religious Elitism: Paul rejected the idea that salvation could be mediated by human authorities, traditions, or religious rituals. His calling emphasized direct relationship with Christ for all believers.

4. Affirming the Role of Divine Calling in Leadership

Paul’s experience set a precedent for leadership in the Church:

  • God’s Sovereignty in Ministry: Ministry calling and authority come from God, not from human ordination alone.
  • Inclusion of the “Outsider”: Paul was an outsider in terms of the original apostles, but God used him powerfully. This demonstrates that God can call anyone, regardless of background or association with a specific group.
  • Personal Responsibility to Obey: Since Paul’s calling came from God alone, his responsibility was to obey God directly rather than seek validation from human leaders.

5. Paul’s Defense of His Calling (Galatians 1:10-12)

Paul explains the significance of his divine calling further in Galatians 1:10-12 (KJV):
“For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”

This passage reinforces Paul’s independence from human approval and highlights the divine origin of his message and apostleship.

Conclusion

Paul’s calling to be “not sent out by any one person or group” was essential for preserving the integrity of his ministry and the gospel message. It ensured that his authority rested solely in Christ, freed him from human biases and control, and empowered him to boldly preach the gospel of grace to the Gentiles. This independence also modeled the importance of divine calling over institutional approval in Christian leadership—a principle that still holds relevance today.

Apstolic Taveau’s Own Views on WHY Apostle Paul made it plain that he was “not sent out by” (meaning UNDER) the authority of “any one minister” “5 fold ministry office” or ministry doctrinal and authority/governing, presbytery or group style.

And after what I have encountered also survived, mainly if not ONLY in the American shepherding false Pharisee, whining elite group subculture (mainly if not only the “Patrician WELP” which have hangers on of the consistent, predatory and very fraudulent, bearing false witness also  “regal authoritarian, turf owning practitioners.. now named WANNABES  I agree whole heartedly with this Pauline Galatians 1:1-2 .. due to my huge life experience the mainly this big attacking unrepentant micro and mega group.


1. Chief Apostle Paul needed the freedom  to (Philippians 2:12) “hear God for himself ” due to the major, depth, height, width of his eternal also deeply complex call. He knew the Lord for himself and heard by the power of the Holy Spirit all of the in’s and out’s of his giant (Future Church) revelatory and mega call. Thus, how could any “oversight” no matter how wise, mature “deeply know, understand WHAT PAUL knew, understood or could handle, stand, endure!

2. He did not want to be, could not  AFFORD TO BE controlled, minimized, Big Bossed, micromanaged, censored, or possibly BOUGHT (for the sober call,his timeless apostolic/ Eternal Messages)by the many seductive, powerful, attractive, pleasing yet often manipulative ambitious throngs. Mos of whom would want to “own him” to  control him, to micromanage him, to subtly target him, to play him, to pressure  him to “use” his GIANT GIFT for their own material gains. (like it is precisely now!)

TWO QUESTIONS the shepherding, covering, Big Boss ministers want to have answered”
What about apostle Paul’s view of “covering?”

Dr Taveau D’Arcy answers “the only verse that mentions any type of ‘”covering” in the New Testament “is God’s love covers a multitude of sins” It does mention Ephesians 5:21 “chain of command” which this ministry is ‘under.’

I teach and submit that the “covering word’ should be replaced with “God Chosen and SENT Accountability Persons”..(“holding persons accountable”lightly, not authoritarian, but smart family feel SENT TRUE ONES.) However, in most ministers they are not enough “Worthy” “or “True” or TRUSTWORTHY and/o “PURE MOTIVED” also ” DEEP “enough (at present) to risk it.  (my own findings,but have tiny few… need more of these)

Dr T would also submit that there is always a “need” for more mature PRAYER COVERING (“watch your back in PRAYER and cover you in prayer) which I do for ministers. Today it appears that this is the WORST NIGHTMARE for “the ability to trust” seeming like “predatory” “opportunist” even sly GME.(large USA grass roots mainly media afflicted, Show Biz Wannabe)

GIME

(pronounced GIMMEY)

“GREED, IGNORANCE, MATERIALISM, EGO”

NOTE : Apostle Taveau is the off scouring dung to the Christian Celebrity Media Ministry and she fine with all of this. Her Call Galatians 1:1-2, Acts 17:17 and servant Leader “submitted to all in Ephesians 5:21″ first church. She believes in Ephesians 5:21 with 5:22 should the Lord SEND her a Christian husband. However, she is not looking, and will Father God send or NOT send. Too ” I Timothy 6:6, “Godly contented”  and stays super busy. Should the Lord tarry and abiding in His deep grace, in 2026 Sister Taveau will celebrate 50 years of “surfing and analyzing and study the Body of Christian leader doctrines, which are much affected by the Media. ”  Now she is content to remain in her own realm and lets all others come to HER by “divine appointment ONLY”.

Qs? crossbodyunity@gmail.com

AUTHORITARIANISM COMES IN TO WIELD TOP CONTROL

Dr Taveau Asks Chat GPT

“When did “Authoritarians” and controllers enter into the Ephesians 5:21 “mutually submitted” and servant leaders Church/ministry fellowships?

Chat GPT responded:

 When Did Authoritarianism Enter the Church?

Authoritarianism began to creep into the Church gradually, starting in the late 1st and early 2nd centuries as the Church expanded and faced both internal and external pressures. Several key factors contributed to this shift

A. Cultural Influences from Roman and Greek Society

  • Roman Hierarchical Structure:
    The Roman Empire was structured with a strict hierarchy—from Caesar down to local governors and soldiers. As Christianity spread through the Roman world, the Church began to adopt similar hierarchical patterns.

  • Patriarchal Norms:
    Roman and Greek cultures were deeply patriarchal, with women and lower-class individuals expected to submit to male authority. Some leaders in the early church began to reinterpret Paul’s teachings on submission through a cultural lens, rather than Christ’s model of equality and “mutual submission.”

B. The Development of the Episcopal Model (2nd-3rd Century)

  • By the 2nd century, the role of bishop began to evolve from a local elder or overseer to a central figure with more authority over multiple congregations.
  • Ignatius of Antioch (c. 110 AD) wrote letters emphasizing the authority of bishops, urging Christians to submit to their bishops as they would to Christ. This marked a shift from collaborative leadership to a more centralized authority.
  • Over time, bishops began to consolidate power, especially in major cities like Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch.

C. Response to Heresies and Persecution

  • Combatting False Teachings:
    The early church faced numerous heresies (e.g., Gnosticism and Marcionism), which led church leaders to assert more control to protect doctrinal purity.
  • Persecutions:
    Roman persecution also led to a need for strong, centralized leadership to organize the underground church and protect the community. However, this centralization often evolved into authoritarianism over time

D. The Rise of Constantine and State-Church Fusion (4th Century)

  • In 313 AD, Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan, legalizing Christianity and ending persecution. However, Constantine also sought to unify the empire through religion, using Christianity as a tool of political control.

  • Council of Nicaea (325 AD): The first ecumenical council was convened by Constantine to settle theological disputes (e.g., Arianism). This event symbolized the growing union of church and state, leading to the Church adopting more hierarchical, authoritarian structures similar to the Roman government.

  • Bishop of Rome’s Growing Authority: Over time, the bishop of Rome (later known as the Pope) began to assert authority over the entire Western Church, laying the groundwork for the centralized authority of the Roman Catholic Church.

E. Gender and “Covering” Doctrine

  • As hierarchical structures solidified, women’s roles were increasingly restricted.

    • By the 4th century, the Church began to institutionalize male dominance, interpreting Paul’s writings (e.g., 1 Corinthians 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2:12) as universal bans on female leadership.
    • The concept of women needing to be “covered” or “under” male authority became more prevalent, despite the lack of biblical support for such a doctrine.
  • This shift contradicted the early examples of women leaders (e.g., Phoebe, Priscilla, Junia) in the First Church and Jesus’ radical inclusion of women in His ministry.

3. Protestantism and the Reaction to Authoritarianism (16th Century)

By the 16th century, many Christians became disillusioned with the authoritarian control of the Catholic Church, especially practices like:

  • Papal infallibility: The Pope claimed ultimate authority over all believers.
  • Clerical control: The laity had little access to the Bible and were dependent on priests for spiritual guidance.

The Protestant Reformation (1517): Led by figures like Martin Luther, the Reformation sought to return to biblical authority and the priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:9). While Protestantism rejected many authoritarian practices, some authoritarian tendencies (e.g., patriarchal structures and denominational control) persisted in various Protestant traditions.

Conclusion: From Servant Leadership to Authoritarianism

  1. The First Church operated under a model of “mutual submission” (Ephesians 5:21) and servant leadership, with Jesus Christ as the head of the Church. Leadership roles were meant to equip and serve the Body of Christ, not to dominate or control.
  2. Authoritarianism entered the Church gradually, influenced by:
    • Roman and Greek hierarchical culture
    • Centralization of bishop authority
    • State involvement in church affairs
    • Doctrinal battles and persecution
    • Patriarchal reinterpretations of scripture
  3. Despite these shifts, the biblical model of leadership remains one of humility, service, and equality in Christ, as seen in the teachings of Jesus, Paul, and the First Church

We conclude for today..

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