LET US ABIDE IN SELF GOVERNING, EVER WATCHFUL AUTHORITY PURE COMMUNITY IN EPHESIANS 5:21 WHILE MODELING “THE WISDOM FROM ABOVE” (FOUND IN APOSTLE JAMES 3:17) which is PURE, PEACEABLE, EASILY ENTREATED, FULL OF MERCY AND GOOD FRUITS (GAL 5:22-23) WITH PARTIALITY AND WITHOUT HYPCOCRISY” (Meaning each one turning to the Lord Most High God to enlist His help for there WILL BE long sufffering)
“Watch for the sign of Critical LP: they worship at the exalted altar of each and every kind of person, even the new visitor, being SUBMITTED” as in owning and demanding that THEY are OVER US ALL”
Not among those witchwatchers..too false. But they left out EPHESIANS 1;6; 2:14-15, 3:19, 4, also 5:21 for ALL people, and in males, females, marriage, Christian ministry, community”Sincerely, Minister TD
(“like a Deborah”)
ART 11 “ARE YOU SUBMITTED?” THE CASE OF THE GENESIS EVE
Before There Was The Torah Governing Levitical Law, WHO was EVE “Under?”
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“NO Ai was used on ARE YOU SUBMITTED PART 11”
TODAY: 2 PREQUELS FOLLOWED BY THE MAIN PART 11 ARTICLE.
NOTE: PART 12 will follow tomorrow late,with more about ARE YOU SUBMITTED, HANNAH? BUT TO WHAT!”
Before there was Adam and Steve..
For this, Sent Valuable Person, clothed in Earthsuit of a white, Middle age, non famous, SHE… has experienced so much undue targeting, accusing, LP (Levtical Patriarchs) anti-woman Deep South misogynous bias.(agist, too!) None of which were from the gay community, nor persons of tan or dark-skinned , white Baptists, mild spirit-filled, nor Hindu, Buddhist, tarot card readers,set in concrete Pagans…multiplied persons in transition or Hollywood liberal Democrats. ..ALL HAS Just and ONLY abysmally been seen as “my own white color” and ALL LP.(which I am not,God uses me with more diverse)
Therefore, all my own prior experiences have combined to make this kind-hearted, bold and upfront, compassionate teacher speak out. To train the heteroes to respect one another, but also all others. For Jesus’ End Times’ sake.
This doctrinal equipping is primarily for the frigid biased…also mainly for the crazymatic clubby Christians ..to make them more “aware” ‘eager ‘ to be”really ready” for the last End-Time harvest ..for you are not ready yet. (“mind probing Evil Eye included” maybe majorly!)
For these (mainly ) were “visited” by myself and they did not pass the lowest bar of “GENUINE REAL RESPECT” for the non LP new visitor.(in dysfunctional pretend maybe” showbiz “elite style ministry)
So, my goal is training “this” subject to the saints and these mean LP accuser-free. Then, once these are real men and non-mean leader women, we can each represent Jesus more accurately and not club people down with the law or typecast born-again bigotry.
True Purpose: To show Jesus respect for all others, no matter their choice, lifestyles, or beliefs “is like Jesus would.” However, GENUINELY RESPECTING does not require,mean that we (you, I) endorse, condone, or accept their own preferred beliefs an choices, not THEY endorse, condone or accept those of mine, ours, yours . (Note: This is sane society in action.) Sow respect, nothing more unless you are sure the Holy Spirit has opened the door. No more in this, just happy to get this load of ministry ideas out there to you.
Another Main purpose: We’re trying to defrag all Christian accusation, legalism. Hence, going back to the core roots and defrag, retrain what we understand triggers leader accusation between males and females. So, we’re going to stay there and let the world do its thing.
Here’s why we’re going back to the Bible Begininng Eden Garden to search for what’s organic here without human ministry additives. To get the straights ready and all calmed down.
Plus, I figured if we get the ordinary Christian males, females, young boys, girls kind and respectful to all colors, kind and style of God-formed human people, maybe the churches will be able to woo the lost and help the suffering and show the love of Christ, which is perceived from way deep inside, not through Bible-toting, religious quoting, or thumping.
I consider myself a hetero expert. Someone’s got to be.
The TD Management
A SUBMITTED SELAH FOR THE GIRLS OF YESTERDAY AND TODAY
Psalm 112 :1″His seed shall be mighty on this earth.
The generation of the upright SHALL BE BLESSED”
FOCUS TODAY AND PART 12…Concerning God’s leader women, His girl,new rising leaders
We hope that by the conclusion of this peer article, that we will note how that on any given Sunday, meeting day, the congregation is mostly made up of women: mothers, singles, single mothers, volunteers, many prayer warriors, grandmothers, and so on.
Many of the women come to worship the Lord and to give, frequently volunteering while great trials are brewing at home. PLUS usually they are mature, healthy selfless and caring, and many are reliable and happy glad donors.
It comes to the attention of this wise individual that unless the USA nation recovers (meaning that the now Church truly does its part), it strongly appears that women make up about 50% or more of every kind of faith-filled Christian ministry, church, and family fellowship. Also, the majority of each ministry gathering, perhaps some ministries have fewer than 50% women, but some have more, like 70% of older women.
Yet, we want none of this to be taken as a prophetic word. No, it’s a wake-up call mainly for the accustomed, used, and mostly “comfortable” styles of ministry, those who think they have it all and have now “arrived.” Many of them are more indifferent or no longer expecting a mighty move from the Most High Lord.
So, I submit the following on behalf of the many silent, would-called Christian office ministers, teachers, equippers, office prophets, apostles, and area pastors. It’s not about being women lib, but about being God-gifted and answering His high call.
AND NOT BEING TAKEN FOR GRANTED, ACCUSED, PUT ASIDE OR TARGETED FOR WANTON PLEASURE.
THIS IS PART ADDRESSING GOD’S WOMEN and I want to address HANNAH and I SAMUEL ministry in PART 12 ARE YOU SUBMITTED…but it ties in with the modern formula teaching about EVE as how ALL women ‘are “easily fooledguillable and worse , third rated piece of property (even in these More LP Churches)
So on behalf of 1) awareness 2) shock and awe to awaken to 3) uncourage and uplift certain females who are called by God..I submit all of this the Christian body of Christ, meaning males and females.
Playtime is over.
AS OF RIGHT NOW: there is no more ministry double standard for men and women, boys and girls, youth, and more. On behalf of the many suppressed, deeply oppressed, withstood and frowned at by LP (Leadership/Pastoral) and relegated to a stereotype, I put up this red flag of warning to my fellow ministry big boss ministers.
Furthermore you need to regard the woman sent among you who represents all ages, some modern, many sacrificing real women, and singles. They are not sent to your ministry and put many love offerings in your plates. They belong to your partner support network and have long suffered being your choice volunteers. They have been biased against, disrespected, scorned, demeaned, preyed upon, used, and objectified.
We cannot allow any of this to be pressured by bias to dull down and disappear. We also want to banish the demonic seer “witch watcher” far off, defiling, typecasting, often accusing, and “dethrone” the Queen Jezebel’s haughty sly preoccupation. Once again, the mean biased white LP male pastor, prophet, office cruel (haughty) Boys Will Be Boys Club double standard, and the mistreatment of God’s human beings who happen to be women or girls. Let us hasten to warn and spread this word coming from the Lord to the many in Christian big boss ministry.
Let us hasten to warn and spread this Word coming From the Lord to the many in Christian Big Boss ministry,
Submitted in His Love, and God is watching.
Sincerely, Taveau D’Arcy
THIS IS THE MAIN ARTICLE:
PART 11 “ARE YOU SUBMITTED?” THE EVE CASE OF GENESIS EVE
Before the Torah Governing Levitical Law, WHO was EVE “Under?”
NOTE: Part 11 without Ai
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NOW TO RETELL THE GENESIS GARDEN STORY:
THE RELATIONSHIP OF ADAM AND FIRST WOMAN EVE WHICH WILL INCLUDE A VIEW OF ETERNITY, A MODERN DAY VIEW SCIENCE AND HISTORICAL OVERVIEW REGARDING PASSED DOWN TRADITION
Subtitle:
FIRST HUMANS, FIRST LOVE, FIRST FRUIT…YET MAKING BAD CHOICES
EVERY EQUIRING LEGALISTIC ENDURING MIND SEEMS TO ALWAYS “DEMAND TO FULLY KNOW”
Q. IN CHRIST FOLLOWING MINISTRY “WHO” IS CLEARLY OVER “WHOM?”
Also: Q. WAS THAT FIRST WOMAN EVE PROPERLY SUBMITTED??
Plus ,as apostle TD’S ever inquiring governing leadership mind is also curious, she fully digs deep out the garden Real Direct, however, she understands the Big Bias and Law, so she submits HER OWN, IN HOUSE non Torah Bible views as Submitted Selah, not as autocratic spiritual dogma
THE SUBMISSION LEGALISTS RECORD
While we surely each know the Garden of Eden First Leadership Authority Couple story . I will share the basics again, as it pertains to the Big Boss and the traditonal Christian pastor, leader, lay, family and spouse, youth “male, female, Adam, Eve, Submission VIEW of right now
TD PRESENTS SCIENCE INTO OUR MATURE HISTORICAL GENESIS OVERALL PERSPECTIVE
LEST WE FORGET THE MODERN INNOVATIONS SINCE THE TIME PERIOD
POINT: There was no science in existence during Genesis, Torah and First Church, Book of Revelation expansive time period. And it only in the imagination until last few hundreds of Planet Earth years.
Adam and Eve, the Creation Story is usually ONLY thought of, and taught by a classical mainly European Bible view. That view is quality and they did their best with what they had and what they saw. We not removing just adding bit of modern science and theology “open to correction “Selahs.
For the original Creation, Adam and Eve “beginnings” are mysterous and also passed down through great oral tradition, and then were made more formal and kept alive in the Hebrew Torah and that was to me “Levitical Patiarchism” at it’s zenith Book of The Law, Mosaic Ten Commandments but also the human tradtion, for whatever these were worth( mostly good but still incorporated my law,stone throwing and preacher accusation against ‘weak willed dumber back under the Torah LP law “accusing of women.”
Then we add in human error, misogyny, false teaching, and occult bias against women. For example, the monk inquisition about witchcraft and the book “The Hammer of the Witch” (Malleus Maleficarum), which is renowned and sold on Amazon.
So in other words, we have many traditions, both true and false teachings. However, I am only focusing on clearing the misogyny and “little wife, little woman” false teachings that exist in many big and small esteemed ministers, seen as colonial well-established practices that are globally respected.
Yet, I am also in support of them as fellow human beings and Christians. But this hour is crucial, and I am calling forth repentance and reform of occult practices, misogyny, the “boys will be boys” mentality (as seen with Eli in 1 Samuel), and the concept of all women being viewed as “Eve deceived” while Adam willfully partook as the head of the home.
So let me get started with addressing all of that, and then you can train and educate others about it too!
The Above: INNER KNOWLEDGE OUTSIDE OF OWN HUMAN LOGIC: The Apostle, Paul who knew the Lord PERSONALLY..however, , way back WHEN.a with no clue about what WE know today ( no idea of WIFI) ..yet her writes in 1 Corinthians 2:9-10 “Eye has not seen, ear has not heard ,neither has entered into the heart of any man, those things which the Lord has prepared for them, BUT they are “revealed by the Spirit” for the Spirit searches all things, yea, even the deep things of God” (Find John 16:13 and stand upon that, also)
POINT: AN ASSESSING ASIDE (TO THOSE WHO DECRY THE IDEA OF A SUPERNATURAL GOD “LET THEIR BE LIGHT” CREATION)
TO THE Big Reader Doubters (the persons who deny the supernatural part of this Life did or could really happen…(meaning the miracle of Genesis and creation)
TO YOU…First we say “are your really clueless about Quantum Physics? Secondly if you can sit for hours, days, weeks, many of you 24/7 playing countless video games with all of their mighty graphics and , watching endless movies, Netflix..DVDS about spaceflight and science fiction and more..”a go for that” then surely YOU can entertain this!)
TD’S HERE GOES
HOW APOSTLE T VIEWS THE GENESIS 1-3 SCENE
This My Own Selah: When Adam was formed, God created him from the dust. However, when Eve was formed, she was taken from his side, from his bone, which is technically part of his own worthy leader DNA.
This means that “all women” are made “equal” and “equally valuable” and “worthy of equal respect,” just like “all” men, regardless of their race (white, black, brown, mixed race).
We note how God formed Adam first, making him the firstborn and the top head in the chain of command, as the head governor of the planet and home, following other planets with inhabitants.
In modern law terms, the first female Eve was clearly the governor’s wife and also his high-quality helpmeet, co-parent, co-laborer, a lively teammate, partner, and at times an adventurer. They lived prior to the Old Testament Law, and they related, fellowshipped, and fully enjoyed one another, along with God, in their own wonderful, calm “Holy Spirit divine relationship” which was surely “Shalom” (meaning “nothing is missing, nothing is broken”).
This invisible, subtle, fine-tuned Holy Spirit governing and guiding wholesome equal relationship was present in our first church, similar to Adam and Eve abiding in Ephesians 5:21. In my opinion, this provides the “order” for governing and unfolding the planetary and galactic ever-expanding rule. Order would be maintained lightly and loosely, as there was no sin to bring trouble.
I regard the role of the first couple in the prior garden as the supreme, healthiest, pure relationship chain of command. Nobody is controlling or a big boss in authority. It was all about equal Holy Spirit love and fulfilling order, despite the challenges of human nature and demonic attacks in the fallen world.
THUS…. “PRIOR THE GARDEN FALL” IS ONE TRUE PERSPECTIVE
And, with Christ allowing grace NOW (and parties in a marriage, fully desiring HIS WAY not their own way) then we can liken as similar “getting a glimpse of God’s Garden peaceful happy shalom) here in the New Testament times (yet only in part in these difficult times. however they are a FORETASTE of life in HEAVEN forever)
FOR NOW we can train and self improve to attempt to ‘attain” what would be a smattering of Eternity (brief glimpses, here and there) which would be IDEAS to enjoy and treasure. Also the Christian believer could now work on ‘Self control ” with God’s help to w model “EORR Holy Spirit guided” Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord
POINT: ADAM HAD A PERSON SON-DAD RELATIONSHIP WITH CREATOR FATHER GOOD GOD
FIRST MAN ADAM HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH FATHER PRIOR EVE BEING FORMED (a model for a Christian husband in marriage), It was only giving, loving, receiving and hanging around together relation and interacting, planning and it was most delightul , humorous and fun. (This was prior to Gen 3 sin)
MAIN POINT: WHILE WE KNOW THAT THE NEW TESTAMENT TIMES, WITH CHRIST AND ST PAUL WERE NOT IN THE FIRST GARDEN PICTURE, we can from the view of hindsight note how PRIOR THE LAW, RELATIONSHIPS reflect “Jesus fullfilled the law, removed every curse and made a Open Way Back to the Garden (to safely guide,guard, lovingly govern ALL Relationships, including God and all people, and MALES AND FEMALES, HUSBANDS and WIVES.
IN HINDISGHT GOD PLANNED EVE AND ADAM A “ONE” TEAM…and though there was no sin or Law or need for Bible training BACK THEN, we can compare how ADAM AND EVE “related in the Garden” without a sin, fallen human nature present AND realize that is appears to be BOTHOF THEM RELATING “DIVINE” and “EQUALLY” similar to EPHESIANS 5:21, 22
Paul’s writings Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” Ephesians 5:22 “wives submit to your (own) husbands'”
Back in the PRE GENESIS 3 day ,Adam and Eve teammates, equal, valuable, gifted true partners, co-laborers and co-parents and life problem solvers, and surely happy camper adventurers,each of whom was called by God to be unified governing authority, pure overseers, seen as God’s Pick as His future global governors.
POINT: DR TAVEAU SHIFTS TO THE PRESENT FIRST CHURCH AND NOW “NON LEGALISTIC” TRADITIONAL VIEWS OF THE HUSBAND WIFE IN EPHESIANS 5:21-22
BRIEF OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF COUPLES ABIDING IN
Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord’ each on deferring to the other
Ephesians 5:22 “submission by the wife is instructed as follows’ WHEN, IF there is a strong point of big disagreement, rather than a shout down, accusing , coming to blows THERE HAS BEEN A GAME PLAN FOR THIS discussed and planned for and “AGREED PREVIOUSLY UPON BEFORE the marriage with each one SUBMITTING TO THIS PLAN “if, ‘when ‘as’ a strong family disagreement surfaces
POINT: POST GENESIS 3: MODERN DAY PROBLEM SOLVING USING THIS APOSTOLIC MODEL
“PROBLEM SOLVING” means that each husband should use it with his cherished and valued loving wife, peacefully differing when they are unable to arrive at a point of agreement.
Note: (due to the submission training gone awry in too many super saints) I would like to point out that no wife is supposed to lie down and accept everything. God doesn’t want someone to be meek or expect one to give up common respect and be dominated. True Dialogue believes that each married spouse should be allowed to firmly and respectfully express all that is needed. For any minister, pastor, or husband to deny the woman leader her opinion or not allow her to have a voice, I would consider that as “old school” leadership, which is akin to outdated governing laws.
It is life-saving. Yet, there are times when the woman of God hears the Lord more clearly than her wise husband (not in all cases), especially in emergencies involving children, wellness, and life and death situations. In such extreme dangerous circumstances, the wife must stand up and convey the word of the Lord to her husband. However, she should then be silent (not nagging, yelling, or accusing). For example, a female partner might receive a warning dream, which she should make sure to share at length.
If the man and the leader woman disagree, she strongly says what she needs to say. But after delivering the oracle message, it is up to him whether he heeds it or not. This is where the concept of submission comes into play and gets deeply tested. Pre-marital counseling can help work on a differences game plan in such situations.
Thus… After the wife has stated her piece, the ball of choice is in her mate’s tennis court. And if he is a truly heroic man, then he will be like the first Adam in the sense that he will know God well enough and have life before God as his true relationship and first love priority. So, when that is the case, this loving godly man will intentionally take time to go “inquire of the Lord” on behalf of both the wife and himself, as well as the family. He will seek God and find out what he believes the Lord’s will is.
Then, he will return to the wife and tell her what he believes God has said. With that done, the wife is willing to submit to what he has decided on behalf of both of them (this is Ephesians 5:22 style). However, if the wife believes he is fully wrong despite this, she has to trust God and seek a window to mention her concerns again. But it should not be about winning, getting her own way, or using false controlling authority.
This is my submitted opinion. Each person is different, so it’s an idea to pray about and entertain.
WE REMEMBER
.Back at the First..Genesis 1 and 2 had no laws, demanded rules, no Torah law: It was all God connected guidance, communication, the whol hearted First Love desire (in them both) to fully please and submit to God..prior to the serpent and THE BIG TEST in Genesis 3
We note in Genesis 1 and 2 that our first couple had no “Thou shalt” or “Thou shalt nots” other than “don’t eat of that one certain tree.” By reading carefully, we can see that God informed Adam about the forbidden fruit long before Eve was formed. So evidently, God requires each man to have a separate relationship with Him, apart from the leader woman. And that is what pertains to my addressing about problem-solving in the Ephesians 5:22 home and life realm.
We note that when the bottom line came in Genesis 3, when Adam was given the choice about whom he would please, even though the Lord had first given Adam the command not to eat from that one certain tree and had made him the head of the chain of command, overseer, and governor of the entire planet, and his wife’s head of the home, it was a high honor and one of respect and trust. However, we cannot fail to note that when the Eve test comes, Adam quickly sets pleasing his wife above pleasing the Most High God.
As Adam fell, the whole creation also fell into darkness of demonic accusation and the corruption of human sin. This is my basic Bible overview, which is founded in Scripture. Sin began to work through lust, pride, and vanity, corrupting the ever-growing human desire for other things and the pride of life, for example.
This growing and worsening fallen sin condition developed and spread. Genesis 4 recalls the first murder, one of Adam’s children by the other, with deep rivalry, envy, and the cruelty of jealousy.
Therefore, much later, God had to require rules to guard, govern, and guide the Israelite community, which protected and governed many relationships. These rules include the Torah (the first five books of the Old Testament) and the Mosaic Ten Commandments found in Exodus 20.
MY ASIDE TO ALL “DAINTY’ BORN AGAIN” MODERN MEN:
While Eve was surely fashioned as Adam’s ongoing “safe place” where he could turn,” and she would be his “weaker vessel” (because Adam was so strong!), in modern terms, we realize that First Lady Eve wasn’t some shrinking violet or lesser being. As we recall, she came from Adam’s side, formed out of his own wonderful and spectacular first-gen sort of DNA. This can mean that Eve too was also strong, gifted, bright, very talented, orderly, and surely with a mind and voice of her own. Yet Adam respected and loved her all the more for that, as he was not dysfunctional, immature, fragile, or needy, which nobody was prior to the Garden of Eden fall.
To the dainty, afraid, mostly picky, using the legalistic law (many) men:
Note: “Fear of (wo)man brings a snare, but those who trust in the Lord shall be safe” (Proverbs 29:25).
Husbands,must try to ” learn to dwell with your wife according to knowledge (1 Peter 3:7).” Leaders and pastors may also want to do this, too..means: regarding all types of women in general.
Here is TD’S Meaning: Real men, husbands, mostly the LP (leader potential) for women do not come with a training manual. They cannot be fixed but related to and deeply understood. As Father God has made females, they require an ongoing, flexible investment of time to comprehend, to get to know their likes, dislikes, and basic different ways of viewing life, etc.
Hard-headed or weak-kneed but tough usually LP men: You must not be intimidated and put off by a strong, capable wife or any real woman. However, do it with grace, true self-control, and mature respect. Furthermore, do not accuse, blame-shift, or live in deep denial due to weakness, which is “fear of women” that brings a snare (Proverbs 29:25).
Try to Remember: “The righteous is as bold as a lion” (Proverbs 28:1).
Thus, there may be some days when you will need to kindly and firmly hold your ground, say “no,” and live up to being a man. Adam failed that quiet test. He might have said “NO WAY.” There are many situations when two strong-willed human beings disagree or prefer something different. So, men, learn from Adam “how not to be” as a man of faith and head of the household, family, ministry, and business.
But be careful. If, when you ever put your foot down, do it without bullying, demeaning, attacking, accusing, abusing, or wounding or crushing (use your words very carefully). And do the same with each of your children, stepchildren, and grandchildren (all types of kids)
TO THE NEW DAY “EVES”
TD cannot help but envision all of those Old Master oil paintings, the many picture on line depicting what appears to be poor, uneducated and unclothed Historic First Couple
In light of the traditional art representing Eve, had we all realized what lay in the future, had sin not been allowed to enter the organic garden (meaning “by both their choices”), who knows? Perhaps they might’ve invented Wi-Fi in just a few weeks. Because God had a huge organic game plan, life forevermore, full of fun, joy, no problems, no fighting, no demonic darkness, wars, poverty, accusation, or trouble.
In hindsight, yet with the reality of The Now Present in mind, we realize that in the beautiful first garden, there was no sickness, poverty, or hurt. So, Eve, as well as Adam, were mighty, mostly mightier than today!
WITH THAT IN MIND ABOUT “MALES and FEMALES”
EVE
SURELY EVE was Sent onto the Planet Earth, as Insightful and Big Gifted First Form Human Adams helpmeet…and real life joy.
Yet one can be certain that the Mother of All Future Females was designed to function highly and as a high quality mentor, hero role model to all future girls, teens and females.
Here is one reason..at that key point in time there was no human demonic sin, curses, penalities and mean accusation or suffering present in that first beautiful dear Garden to beat it out of her …or rob to rob her slowly of self esteem or kill her with unkind words or to demean her or violate her. However, all of that would come later.
MOST LIKELY Eve was vibrant and active and keep life interesting and surely mighty yet mostly like NOT fashioned quite as as her guard, governor Husband “Adam”. Both she and he would have various powers and strengths, and gifts, large talents but these would be to complement and to complete one other, not to power play or to control or to compete
God formed the husband to lovingly guard, and protect…but prio to the Genesis 3 sin, it was all friendship, real love and family life. No danger or crisis situations..it was as if every day was designed to be living Vacation (until the 2 Humans made their Choice)
ADAM
Most likely Adam, like most alive men..enjoyed the responsibility of his authority ..tending the guarding”Being There” and co laboring, discovering and even inventing along side with Eve
Each moment, prior to Genesis 3 was comforting, joyful, and mature.
And the new Woman Eve was Adam’s perfect fit. Yet one size does not fit all..and Taveau realize that all governing men need their “own” choice and will want their own preferred special definition of what THEIR EVE should possess (meaning style, look, their preferences, personality, demeanor, energy, race, culture and set of Beliefs.) Some men may look for shy and ‘feminine, others enjoy active, morely lively and sporty..but whatever EACH PERSON PREFERS ought to theirs and God’s OWN PERSONAL CHOICE.
And in these Modern New Testament Days…the same goes for women.
New Testament verse decribes the married woman as the “man’s weaker vessel” but that doe not imply “less than, stupider, easily to control or dominate or imply ‘not as good as or great as her HE.’ Again, Eve had been created by god to be Adams relief and healthy, balance, and to complement, rather to compete with him .and when God formed Eve, he understood every part of first man ADAM so he fashioned HER into what was BEST and PLEASURABLE for both of them.
NOW BACK TO THE MOSTLY WOEFUL GARDEN FALL:
ADAM WAS “THE MAN” GENESIS 3
We know that ADAM was deeply smitten with Eve. Why? Because prefer HER over His God when it came to NOT EATING the Fruit from the tree of Good and Evil..
“WHO ARE…..YOU, WE, I…. GOING TO PLEASE” IS THE ULIMATE QUESTION OF TODAY IN THE BODY OF CHRIST AND A BELIEVERS, MINISTERS, SEEKING TRUE PERSONS (be it choosing to sin, sex related, food related, male or female or whatever related)
MAIN POINT: ADAM VS EVE : the serpant used ACCUSATION ( about God) to DECEIVE first woman EVE.
MAIN POINT: However, Adam was NOT DECEIVED ( in that same sense.however many man are, and so are women)
WHO IS HE GOING TO PLEASE…the Big (Hu)Man Test
MAIN POINT: ADAMS TEST IN GENESIS 3 was “WHO WAS HE GOING TO PLEASE ” ..His beautiful, wise, strong, Life Wife …OR GOD” ..So Adam willfully CHOSE to take that fruit out Eve’s hand, to put it into his mouth and to willfully chew it up and swallow
TAVEAU SAYS” First Man Adam COULD HAVE(ought to have) seen Eve approaching him with forbidden fruit and said “EVE, PUT THAT DOWN. Don’t you remember what God said?! May he might’ve slapped the piece of fruit out of her hand..but HE DID NOT
POINT He chose to please HER by eating it.
POINT: GENESIS 3 God comes after First Man ADAM and he does not accuse or berate or lecture him, but seeks to hold him directly accountable (ADAM WHERE ARE YOU?)
MAIN POINT: GENESIS 3: God the Creator GOOD Father does not attack or blame or accuse EVE or ADAM (like the imperfect law would..by many, today)
POINT: ( I submit that God did sought to UPFRONT (respecting, clearly no reviling)”Tough Love” “test” the first Man Adam…but not include the First Woman (until later) REASON. I submit that Father GOD did i chain of command, hold the top person accountable, order…for this reason
….to honor and respect His Relationship with his First Born man Adam due to their relationship being “just between God and Adam” (individual and separate) mening “PRIOR” to Eve being formed.
Futher more I sense that role model is for all Christian men today:…in order to keep that First Love Relationship with LORD FIRST then then the wife second and the children 3rd and ministry/business last.
MAJOR POINT: IN THE GENESIS 1-2 GARDEN..”PURELY 100% ORGANIC” “ALL OF THE SEATING WAS ERGONOMIC”
FOR A WHILE…THERE WAS NO ACCUSATION in the Shalom peaceful pure Garden. WHY ? Because there was no fallen carnal heart condition UNTIL After Genesis 3
WE NOTE: prior to Genesis 3 There was no sin, no hurt no evil, hence there was NO NEED for any governmental rules, or Big Boss leadership..for everyone (both of them) fully wanted to seek God’ perfect way and selflessly love one another.
POINT: The GENESIS 3 falls clearly sets the stage for the “a humankind need” for The Future Mosaic 10 Commandments andThe Levitical Torah Law (reason for” people their own self control, followed their own passions and demonic tempations, Genesis 4 envy murder, etc, Noah, Wars, and now TODAy (just a capsule explanation)
And it was not until Adam got sought out by the Most High God(“Adam, where are YOU (in chain of command respect) that the fallen leader Adam begin to reflect his choice of “whom he obeyed” and almost immediately began to manifest( resemble) the sly, Accuser-Deceiver impure nature.
REASON: for when God came to confront Adam (not Eve at the first) and I submit..that it was to show respect for Adam, whom He had placed the chief Chain of Command, Head of Planet, Head of Home GOVERNOR ADAM.
We read how .God straight after Adam and called out “Adam where are YOU?” (Matthew 18:15, meekGalatians 6:1) holding him directly accountable (as we need to now today)
GENESIS 3 DAY …ADAM HAD A CHOICE
Adam might have responded back to God and said, “Here I am God..I admit it, that I sinned and pleased my wife Eve, rather than put YOU FIRST. Please forgive me and us, for it happend on my watch!” (Who knows, perhaps God would have forgiven him and them)
and it’s been that way EVER SINCE…especially with LP. Please Google Genesis 3 for yourself.
PURE REMINDER: Back prior to the Old Testament Law and after Christ came and fulfilled the jot and tittle of the Old Torah Law, presently unless you have those Bible thumpers who make it appear all about them knowing more (even all), then “right” presently in the Christian ministry, there should be a Pauline “Now there is no more condemnation” and also a freedom to “work out our own salvation with fear and trembling,” which is also a Pauline command. Additionally, akin to Paul, be a noble Berean who would make the Apostle Paul proud!
And that is all I am after, each one hearing God for themselves. I am hearing God for myself as Selah, not hardcore legalistic dogma.
IMPORTANT MAJOR LEADER POINT
From today onward, so Christian (OR ANY) , female, girl, leader women should not be defiled, abused, accused, and maligned. They should not be written, stereotyped as less than a man.
The same needs to be trained in ministry colleges and to staff, all leaders, heads of families, deacons, elders and also train little girls, boys, and teens STARTING “RIGHT NOW”.
From now on, there is healthy, mature, kind Christian leadership with “no condemnation” or demeaning or coarse joking about “little, lesser, demeaned evil women.”
BACK IN THE NON LP TYPE DAY
Back in the blessed Garden (prior to the Genesis 3 Fall), there were no rules like the modern-day religious formal Levitical Patriarchism, even today, which often involves misogyny and big boss control, with women being less favored in the household due to tradition.
Means prior to the Torah times, there were no specific laws or rules dictating what a male or female could or could not be, should or should not be, or do. They were free to operate as they chose and to govern over.
Note that this writer is not advocating for women’s liberation (having been raised in freedom, not control), but values and advocates for personal, ministry, and family freedom to do the things which Christ needs one to do and to be.
This is freedom not under the law but not designed to be “using license.” It also depends upon your true doctrines: 1) in your marriage, 2) in the officially signed up to join as a member church, fellowship, and 3) kind of Christian sect, ministry, type, brand.
Cross-body unity, Taveau is MYOB (Mind Your Own Business). Furthermore, it is “not my business” what you decide or feel about this as a pastor, ministry leader, lay person. It is each of our own choice. Apostle Paul commands each and every one to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling.
He also set in place Ephesians 5:21/Ephesians 4 for the Christian believing community, which includes Ephesians 4 offices and servant leaders like you.
You are free in Christ to do and be what God and He in their life agree is God’s perfect will.
PASTOR T SAYS:
Personally and officially: I am pro staying home with the child.However, we recognize that you might be paying a high price to sow, yet you are sowing toward the future, both of yourself and your child.
However, that is each persons own choice, which must be made, in light of modern today. And l greatly respect as well as realize the turf, and it should be your choice. If that suits your heart and economy, yet it is not my say, for only God and you should decide for yourself.
Back in the Old Pre Torah Levitical Law rules prioritizing days..which are also prior to the curse of the law..at least in my own opinion, there was a functional “Thus saith the Lord to Eve”: women must be withstood to allow the man to rise up and lead.
And surely, as both Adam and Eve had original, founder, organic, pure, and special DNA, their talents and abilities were major, global. We just don’t know that as nobody was there. But in light of science and online space travel, quantum physics, and more, then I submit that had the fall not happened, there would have been an amazing unfolding, an eternal unfolding of inventions, worship, art, building, and more, which would spill over and learn to populate unending galaxies in the universe…forever.
Before the fall and the law and teaching, surely now, no “Eve (or Adam), you are not allowed to go there, to try that, to do that” (for everything was harmless, safe, free, pure, fun, merry, lively, and forever prior to the fall).
THE UNSAFE ,FALLEN, CRAVEN HUMAN NATURE SOON BEGAT THE NEED FOR
“THOU SHALTS and SHALT NOTS “
Above: The Hairy Eyeball of Control, False Authority, Including witchwatching (usually WELP)
NOTE:This person never once used the term “submitted” in regards to Christian ministry or lay going to church. It was a new vocabulary word I began to attract from afar after I started studying, immersing myself in a spirit-filled Book of Acts, tongue-talking, wonderworking type of believing ministry. I wish that I never heard of it as it is Pharisaical to the max, and I was raised by servant-kind pastors who were not into that.
Yet, in New Testament days, Christ fulfilled the law. That means marriage in the first church, Ephesians 5:21-21, was characterized by mutual submission, a unique collaborating parenting pair, with each one respecting one another, deferring but not bowing and scraping or becoming a slave or waitress or big boss. It is my submitted opinion that if Christ were here today, He would decry women in leadership or doing major things or not (stay at home, found a business). It would be equal but different, each person with their own unique high calling.
Also, this is not a big deal to me as I never once strove to be this way. What I hate about this is Christian massive “name-calling” and public minister old-timey big boss law sinister web accusation, TMZ-style Bible-thumping overseer, loud vilifying, and old-timey word curse, law accusing, plus bullying by religious right fundamentalists.
Other than that, I am perfectly fine with anyone who believes fully differently. I am allowed by the Father and Apostle Paul to “work out my own salvation with fear and trembling” and to think through the theology for myself, which I have done.
Also, I honor both of my parents as I was encouraged by my blessed (senior pastor, seminary graduate) later father, and both parents and extended grandparents, family who modeled servant leader authentic, genuine, office male and gifted talented Bible office females..each of whom given to my by God’s mercy and granted free GRACE.
MORE QUESTIONS? SURELY but that is all I time and space for at the moment
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Frankly,I feel that people are trained to depend on the elevated, talking head, celebrity, whether it is for good, bad, or unjust false accusations. However, we should respect people and honor the human person made in God’s image.
