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PART 10 “THE Ai AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED ? APOSTLE PAUL’S LAST DAYS CHRISTIAN TRAINING LIST
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TD WARNS… “Apostle Paul said that “perilous times will com”  and Taveau reminds leaders”THEY HAVE ARRIVED!”
YET,  “it should not be perilous to any regular, everyday “common” person, not any “non would be famous” who is “not into that celebrity showbiz big stuff”. (a fellow Christian in ministry) for  simply “trying” to visit an well advertised as a “local church”..”famous well known ministry” when it actually turns out to be detrimental to one’s “health”(via the body, mind, soul, even emotions) besieged with false religion!
Yet, it’s come to that!
So Prophet Taveau turns to Chat GPB AI to ask some clarifying, objective Big Questions:
TD ASKS AI’ TO DEFINE “FROM SUCH AWAY” 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5 + I TIMOTHY 6:5
REAL PURPOSE…On Behalf of the Choice People Who Fear the Lord 
ALSO, TD FEELS THE NEED TO DIRECTLY POINT THIS OUT TO CHRISTIAN LEADERS… (both of these Live Effecting Verses) as they will great Ministry, Pastor, Parent, Elder, Cell, Teacher “great teaching fodder” which will protect
1. The healthy Name of Christ
2. Them (insure better attending any fellowship, family, group “Big Quality of Life”
3. It will breed children, gifted teens and both young and old “big quality God pleasing FRUIT
4. It will make the Christ’s Body more winsome, pleasing and Ephesians 4 “better transformed”
(all of which, as this increases, slowly begins to effect society, attract the many lost.

.PAUL’S MEGA TRAGIC WARNING FOR THESE LAST OF DAYS: (which includes even some, many of US Top Leader Christians. “pastor’s trusting congregations”)

  1. 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV): “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
  2. 1 Timothy 6:5 (KJV): “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”

YET, HOPE IS NOT LOST: “IF” we “BELIEVE” and “TRAIN”‘  the CURE

  1. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV): “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”

TD’S POINT
BY LINE UPON LINE, MINISTRY POINT BY POINT “TAKING TIME OUT” TO TRAIN, AND REPEATEDLY REFRESH CHARACTER TRAITS it ought clear up any bitter “fruit” and begin to build “harmonius” more unified ‘fellowships’ and ‘together family” and even accepting in the beloved “new persons” and many repeated ministry visitors..for this “character fruit” is ‘sane” ‘safe” more “healthy” ‘accepting’ “diverse’ and not “haughty” or ‘self seeking” and more..but MOST OF ALL it is Christian leader, lay, congregation, cell group pure “fruit” which is TRUSTWORTHY (no backstabbing, using, demonic control, witchcraft!)
MAIN POINT TO THE MODERN DAY CHURCH: Classic Bible Word “it is by their/our, your, my FRUITS they will recognize us (“know us”) …NOT by our ” “Knowledge, Our Deep Experience, our Precise, Refined Skills, many Gifts, Talents, Mega Services, Online Attendance plus Many Followers, Adoring fans…plus  Charisma, Top Persona” ..(as that is THE WORLD.)

Submitted” to “God’s Whole Counsel?” or to “Owning MY OWN/ OUR Spiritual Turf?

TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Define the meaning of each of the words in 2 Timothy 3:1-5 and explain why Paul said to turn away I Timothy 6:5
AI ANSWERS
Let’s break down the meaning of each word in 2 Timothy 3:1-5, and then we’ll discuss why Paul advised Timothy to turn away from certain individuals in 1 Timothy 6:5.
2 Timothy 3:1-6 describe certain character traits or behaviors exhibited by people in the last days. Here is an in-depth breakdown of each trait mentioned in
2 Timothy 3:1-6 (KJV):
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come“:
Paul is warning Timothy that challenging and dangerous times will arise in the future.
“For men shall be lovers of their own selves”:
People will exhibit excessive self-love and selfishness, prioritizing their own interests above others
“Covetous”: They will have an insatiable desire for wealth and possessions, always wanting more.
“Boasters”: They will be prone to bragging and boasting about themselves and their accomplishments.
“Proud”: They will have an inflated sense of self-importance and arrogance, looking down on others. 
“Blasphemers”: These individuals will speak irreverently or disrespectfully against God or sacred things.
“Disobedient to parents”: People will lack respect and obedience towards their parents or authority figures.
“Unthankful”: They will fail to express gratitude or appreciation for what they receive or experience.
“Unholy”: They will engage in immoral and impure behaviors, disregarding God’s commandments.
“Without natural affection”: This refers to a lack of love and care for family members or close relationships.
“Trucebreakers“: They will not honor or keep agreements or treaties, breaking promises and commitments.
“False accusers”: These individuals will spread false accusations or slander against others.
“Incontinent”: They will lack self-control, being driven by their desires and impulses.
“Fierce”: They will display a savage or violent nature, prone to hostility and aggression.
“Despisers of those that are good”: They will have contempt or scorn for those who exhibit goodness and righteousness.
“Traitors”: They will betray the trust of others, being disloyal and unfaithful.
“Heady”: This refers to being reckless, impulsive, or rash in decision-making.
“Highminded”: They will have an elevated opinion of themselves, considering themselves superior to others.
“Lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God”: They will prioritize worldly pleasures and pursuits over a genuine love and devotion to God.
“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof”: They will outwardly appear religious or spiritual but reject the transformative power and truth of God’s Word.
These character traits provide a sobering depiction of the attitudes and behaviors that can prevail in the last days. It serves as a warning to be vigilant and discerning, both for Timothy and for believers throughout history. Paul encourages Timothy and the church to distance themselves from those who display these negative traits and to remain faithful to God’s truth and teachings..

AI CONTINUES:
I TIMOTHY 6:5 KJV
  1. 1 Timothy 6:5 (KJV): “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”
Now, turning to 1 Timothy 6:5, Paul advises Timothy to turn away from certain individuals because they have a corrupt or warped mindset. Specifically, he warns about people who have a “depraved mind” and who see godliness as a means to financial gain.
TD INTERJECTS: SISTER TAVEAU likens “this” to MEASURING PEOPLE by their WEALTH (or absence of” (“respecter of persons” elite, Caste System, etc) TD sees this is as “Demas” not First Love, and may be “opportunist”)
AI CONTINUES:
These individuals are motivated by personal profit rather than a genuine pursuit of God and the well-being of others. Paul advises Timothy to distance himself and the community from such individuals because their teachings and actions can be harmful and lead others astray from the true message of the Gospel.
TD CALLS THIS NEXT “SUBGROUP” IN THE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP, the CONGREGATION AND LIFE “THE PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE THEMSELVES”**
**( I have a lot of experience dealing with the ‘tribe’ (possibly am an expert!)
TD POINT: IT’S A CLASSIC REASON FOR THE CHRISTIAN PASTORS, MINISTER, LAY, TO BE “HUMBLE” “PERCEPTIVE, VERY GENTLE”

 2 Timothy 2:24-26 in the King James Version (KJV):

“And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”

 

TD ASKS AI to BREAK IT DOWN:

AI REPLIES

Now, let’s break it down and provide an explanation of these verses:

  1. “And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient.”

In this verse, Paul is instructing Timothy (and all servants of the Lord) to avoid quarreling or engaging in unnecessary disputes with others. Instead, they should approach people with gentleness, being willing and able to teach and patient with them. As representatives of God, they are encouraged to exhibit Christ-like qualities in their interactions with others.

  1. “In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves.”

The verse emphasizes the importance of instructing those who are in opposition to the truth with meekness. Meekness here means displaying humility, gentleness, and patience while teaching them. Rather than attacking or condemning those who are in error, the servant of the Lord should try to guide them gently towards understanding the truth.

  1. “If God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth.”

The ultimate goal of gentle instruction is to lead people to repentance and the acknowledgment of the truth. The servant of the Lord understands that only God can grant someone true repentance and the ability to recognize and accept the truth. Hence, their role is to be an instrument through which God can work, guiding others towards a change of heart and understanding.

  1. “And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”

The final objective is to help those who have been ensnared or trapped by the devil. Many people are held captive by false beliefs, sin, or deception orchestrated by the devil. Through gentle instruction and God’s work in their hearts, they may come to break free from these snares and find liberty in God’s truth.

 

In summary, these verses counsel believers, particularly those in leadership roles like Timothy, to approach others with humility, gentleness, and patience when dealing with disagreements or opposition to the truth. The aim is to lead people towards repentance and the acknowledgment of God’s truth, helping them break free from the deceptions and snares of the devil. It’s a call to act as God’s compassionate and loving ambassadors, seeking the spiritual well-being of others.

SISTER T  CLOSES WITH A SUGGESTION
  • USE THESE BIBLE VERSES TO TRAIN as each make a great “point by point” tender heart, self examination, fine tuning…
  • AGAIN: Train each leader, staff, elder, lay and young and make parents influential.

 

 

 

CLOSING WITH THE PURPOSE 

PURPOSE
1) To please the mighty God,
2) To make HIS NAME better known, not any of ours
2) To make  each one of GOD’S HOUSES (and each of our Homes) spiritually attractive…and winsome
3) To make Real Life “special” again
4) Leadership to  Effect society, friends, neighbors, aliens and expats, strangers and store clerks, wait staff, each other
PURELY yet frankly “Let’s SHOCK the AREA and the WORLD
that  Leader Christians are SO WELL BEHAVED!
LET’S MAKE INVITING MANY PEOPLE TO THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, FELLOWSHIP
SAFE AND ATTRACTIVE…AGAIN.
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PART 6 “THE AI AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? TO POST CHRISTIAN PROPHECY

 

THIS “THE AI AND IT’ is intermixed tithe THE ARE YOU SUBMITTED” Big Series, going way back to May 9 or or so on on this and many TD apostolic sites

PART 6 “THE AI AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? POST CHRISTIAN PROPHECY
Maybe a Subtitle could be “How Low Do We Go in Representing Christ??
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John 13:34-35 “some have called this the 11th commandment”
“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

I John 1:7 “If we walk in the light, as He is in the Light, then we have fellowship one with another and the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin”

NOTE As one attempts to surf Christ’s leader true Body..randomly, one can encounter the surprise of what proceeds to  resemble a sometimes big, gifted, however penchant for low blow also  joyless crowd causes me to note Office Prophet Christ in Hebrews 1:9

“Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

A portrait of a  joyful, glad prophet, Messiah and winome Savior. However, not that His joy was “conditional” based upon His own two very personal private real life choice”
1) “Jesus loved righteousness” (He loved what was “good” “pure’ “fair” “just” and “holy” yet without being “self righteous ” or “holier than thou”

2) And wise Jesus” hated the hardened human sin condition the many sins, (but he did note “hate” any “sinner” or ‘non believer” or ‘fallen human person”

… and was key in training this myself to help pre-detect the big possibility of off, false, ministry accuser low blow type (2 Timothy 3:1-5) country law tradition and junior Office Mature Wannnabe what I want to name as “Neo Phariseeism” and to heed, pay attention to any “FROWNS OF FALSE DOCTRINE’ “The SCOWLS of ongoing accuser (usually mirthless, accuser, disrespecting, deep Law inherited bias)

 

“BEWARE OF THE FROWNS OF (ACCUSING) FALSE DOCTRINES”

FIRST OFF WE NOTE: note that the apostolic governing authority in the First Church was characterized by “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” as described in Ephesians 5:21.

 

This leadership approach emphasized servant leadership rather than authoritarianism. In TAVEAU’S Part 2 of the SERIES titled “Are You Submitted:” Minister Jesus,” the concept of mutual submission is explored in depth within the context of ministry, community, family, and marriage.

It is important to differentiate this understanding of leadership from certain groups or individuals who demand submission in a negative and oppressive manner, resembling a “Big Boss” mentality.

To Taveau this negative perception of submission has been discovered in certain regions of the USA, particularly in the mid-Florida region during the 1990s.

Similar instances have been observed in various areas across the East Coast, Deep South, and other regions where the infusion of a distorted witchcraft doctrine (I knew 2 prophetic and blessed, gifted sincere persons and one nationally known South African Colonials who were affected by that )

And this has led to a deviation from the safe, wholesome, mostly joyful and sound principles found in the original First Church Holy Spirit Book of Acts, Spirit of Prophecy, and genuine worship. And it has led to my own inability to trust .

We note that the apostolic governing authority in the First Church was characterized by “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” as described in Ephesians 5:21.

“Mutual submission in the fear of the Lord”

This leadership approach emphasized servant leadership rather than authoritarianism. In Part 2 of the discussion titled “Are You Submitted, Minister Jesus,” the concept of mutual submission is explored in depth within the context of ministry, community, family, and marriage.

It is important to differentiate this understanding of leadership from certain groups or individuals who demand submission in a negative and oppressive manner, resembling a “Big Boss” mentality.

This negative perception of Bible authority perverse “submission” has been discovered in certain regions of the USA, particularly in the mid-Florida region during the 1990s.

Similar instances have been observed in various areas across the East Coast, Deep South, and other regions where the infusion of a distorted witchcraft doctrine (originating from South Africa Colonial influences) has led to a deviation from the principles found in the Book of Acts, the Spirit of Prophecy, and genuine worship. (seems to be wherever the Colonials loved the Book of Acts)

Yet, TD is saying all of this in Proverbs 27:6: “Respect and faithful are the wounds of a non-dysfunctional kind friend.” (But beware of the fault-finding in 2 Timothy 3:1-5, frustrating avoidant fruit.)

Understanding and discerning the true essence of biblical leadership and genuine submission requires a careful examination of scripture, guided by the Holy Spirit, and a commitment to aligning with the principles of love, servanthood, and mutual respect. And all of this has led to my own inability to trust these individuals, after repeatedly having my mind read and deeply scanned by few or many from afar, and being prophetically targeted by soulish prayers and witchcraft. This spirit has lied, defiled, aggressed, jumped, avoided, repeatedly psychic read, never spoken, interviewed, or loved enough to speak. (All of this is the worst Book of Acts real nightmare for me in all of the USA due to the invisible, subtle controlling and ever-demonic picking us all apart by this unclean, no holy fear of the Lord partial and godless, and merciless accusing, vilifying, and recurring many ministry Judas, as in false witness bearing all-wise and occult turf-protecting blind-wearying spirit.) I wrote “Ode to Welp” at the top of www.onlinefellowship.us many years ago about these issues in my former, more rural white area

However, this non-monster minister will not name the ministry groups who do this here, but I will if you are pure-hearted and a fellow peer. Contact dfwleader@gmail.com.

I am GREATLY ASSESSING, POINTING OUT what appears to be undue white witchcraft For “Faithful are the wounds of a friend” Proverbs 27:;6 “mature, caring, true purposes:

REASONS WHY: to sumarrily wake awaken these.. to shake them up into repenting, redoing their spiritual doctrines, defragging their own double-tongued, false, accusing, hiding authority, so that the move of God can really begin.

Also, to protect the many of them, meaning, so that God does not bring His judgment upon them, as it is His move and many others called to the Holy Spirit First Church dunamis power wells (myself also).

Please note: that due understanding and discerning the true essence of biblical leadership and genuine submission requires a careful examination of scripture, guided by the Holy Spirit, and a commitment to aligning with the principles of love, servanthood, and mutual respect.

 

For there but for the grace of God go we… each and every one of us. Taveau witnesses: “If I had not been a Baptist and known true doctrine, true perspective, and wholesome, fun Christ-following with an eternal perspective, I might not be here today.

Pop psychology and trends of modern and occult untrue doctrine are at work in these certain types of mega, micro, mini “mind-reading” sort of Spirit-filled churches. Taveau asks the following pointed ministry questions, as these are the main examples of what I never once heard about in the denominational white Baptist church. Yet, these have hounded me since stepping foot into what I later discovered as big boss, we-centric, overseer leader shepherding, which I now renamed WELP (Western European Levitical Patriarchism and L Matriarchism).

 

TAVEAU ASKS THE AI:
Q. Where any of these (following and listed) modern born again, usually country law patriarchal ministry and fellowship good doctrines applied, advocated, used, and enforced ANYWHERE anywhere by the apostles, Jesus, Paul and/or the First Church?

1. the need to be covered under a 5 fold office
2. one ministry group appointed to keep tabs on the believers to see if they ‘were submitted” and “under a local pastor”
3. One minister doctrinal group of pastors, ministers who were appointed to make sure believers went to church each Sunday and did not take off or go somewhere else, or remain at home?

AI ANSWERS BACK:
The doctrines and practices you described, such as the need to be covered under a five-fold office, the appointment of a ministry group to keep tabs on believers, and the requirement to attend church each Sunday under the supervision of a specific group of pastors, ministers, were not part of the practices of the early church as described in the New Testament.

In the early church, the emphasis was primarily on the teachings of Jesus Christ and the apostles, and believers gathered together in local assemblies for worship, teaching, and fellowship. The leadership structure of the early church was centered around elders, who provided guidance and oversight to the community of believers. The New Testament also mentions the role of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (the five-fold ministry) in equipping and edifying the church, but there is no requirement for believers to be “covered” under a specific office or for a ministry group to monitor their submission.

While the early church encouraged believers to gather regularly for worship and mutual encouragement (Hebrews 10:25), there is no indication of a specific doctrinal group of pastors appointed to enforce attendance or restrict believers from going elsewhere. The emphasis was on the freedom and individual responsibility of believers to grow in their faith and follow Christ.

It’s important to note that different Christian denominations and movements have developed various structures and practices over the centuries, and some may incorporate elements similar to what you described. However, these specific practices you mentioned do not align with the practices of the first-century church as described in the New Testament.

 

SECOND BIG LIST OF AI QUESTIONS (and this apostle/pastor T has literally encountered each of as I was SENT around the USA…so the following and has had it evil eye me at a distance, more than once, yet ONLY in ‘white, charismatic, move in the Holy Spirit gifts with big worship.

HERE GOES:

TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q. Did apostles in the first church have a select elite group of ministers referred to as the “apostles in the gates of the city” …AND Q. who were appointed to monitor every believer to keep tabs on their practices, their fellowship attendance,

AND Q .Did any of the FIrst Church leaders ” keep on the lookout for the following:
1. ministry church hoppers? 2. Jezebels 3. Witches 4. Warlocks
5. Persons who were unsubmitted to their authority?

 

AI ANSWERS BACK
There is no biblical evidence to suggest that the apostles in the early church appointed an elite group of ministers referred to as the “apostles in the gates of the city” to monitor every believer’s practices, and attendance, or to specifically look out for ministry church hoppers, Jezebels, witches, warlocks, or individuals who were unsubmitted to their authority.

While the apostles and other leaders in the early church exercised authority and provided guidance to the believers, the focus was primarily on teaching and nurturing the faith of the community. The apostles and elders in the early church were responsible for resolving disputes, making important decisions, and providing spiritual oversight (Acts 15:1-29). They also appointed elders in local churches to provide ongoing leadership and care for the believers (Acts 14:23, Titus 1:5).

In terms of monitoring individual believers’ practices, attendance, or looking out for specific individuals mentioned in your question, there is no scriptural basis for such activities being conducted by an elite group of ministers. The emphasis in the early church was on teaching, discipleship, and the spiritual growth of believers rather than monitoring and policing their actions.

It’s important to approach the study of the early church with a focus on biblical texts and historical context to gain a clear understanding of their practices and teachings. Different traditions and interpretations have emerged over time, but the specific practices and monitoring mechanisms you mentioned are not found in the New Testament accounts of the early church.

REGARDING T’S LEAST FAVORITE CHURCH WHITE WITCHCRAFT ONGOING DISCOVERY

Hence  the HER Taveau asks AI:

AI ANSWERS BACK:
There is no biblical evidence to suggest that the apostles in the early church appointed gifted seers to spy on demons in order to monitor new visitors, repeat attenders, or members. The idea of using seers or individuals with supernatural abilities to spy on people for the purpose of identifying demons or spiritual influences is not supported by the teachings or practices of the early church as described in the New Testament.

In the New Testament, the focus of the apostles and leaders of the early church was primarily on preaching the Gospel, teaching sound doctrine, and nurturing the spiritual growth of believers. They emphasized the work of the Holy Spirit in transforming lives, casting out demons, and bringing healing (Acts 8:7, Acts 10:38).

 

However, there is no indication that the apostles specifically appointed seers or individuals to spy on others for the purpose of identifying demons.

It’s important to approach the study of the early church with a biblical perspective and rely on scriptural evidence. While supernatural gifts and spiritual discernment are mentioned in the New Testament (1 Corinthians 12:7-11, 1 Corinthians 14:1), they were primarily given for the edification of the church and the advancement of the Gospel, rather than for the purpose of spying or monitoring individuals.

It is advisable to be cautious of teachings or practices that go beyond what is explicitly stated in the Bible and to align one’s beliefs and actions with biblical principles and examples.

 


THIS LIST IS MY MOST TROUBLING DOCTRINAL DISCOVERY IN THE SAME STYLE USA MINISTRY MOVES SINCE mid 1990’s

Taveau asks AI about First Church jumping people in public whom they have never once spoken with nor lovingly confronted.

MORE LATER ON THIS I WANT TO GIVE AN AUDIO, AT LENGTH PODCAST TO FILL IN GAPS(I had this happen in Richmond, VA in 1996, Chesterfield County in 2003, and Denton, TX in 2010. It’s a big reason why I warn against this ministry group and recognize that its doctrines are off. This more Pentecostal targeting of only lone individuals has singled out many, vilified them, and caused surprise and hurt to many of God’s innocent, pleasant, and calm remnant persons. It mostly targets lone women but also a few gentle males. This is an old-timey LP “witch-watching” that I say is “turf-protecting,” elegant, and fanatic—a prophetic type of “Christian” big boss ministry (Demas, playtime). Mostly, it’s a patriarchal want-to-be aristocrat approach (which I call nouveau riche, though I am not, as I was not raised in poverty).

While these sly, majorly autocratic, even fascist and strong individuals go after mostly white females who are not “WELP” or tending toward appearing Teutonic or Germanic, I noted that they rarely, if ever, do the same to black individuals. Here is why: they are afraid of being called racists.

I say this for  THIS , as is NOW...New END TIME MOVE OF GOD..USA NATIONAL, on behalf of Hebrews 10:25 prophetic Book of Acts “SAFETY, HEALTHY, HOLY and JESUS CHRIST ALL ACCEPTING, RESPECTING AND KINDS

FOR ALL Newbies, Expats, Visitors, many visiting ministry Offices, both leader and lay…for this FRUIT was shocking, abusive and untoward MORE LATER

 

The following are 2 WORDS FROM THE LORD FOR THESE GIVEN 2021 Submitted as Selah to the Body of Christ:

1. SOMETIMES YOU TOLL THE BELL, OTHER TIMES IT TOLLS FOR THEE
2. THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST AND THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST

TD’S INQUIRING MIND WANT TO KNOW FROM AI
SHE ASKS:
Q. When did the first church apostles see someone they feared or suspected of being up no good and then ambush them in a public setting to accuse of evil yet without any prior polite, honorable, normal one to one private Matthew 18:15-16, meek Galatians 6:1 proper confrontation?

AI RESPONDS:
In the New Testament, there is no account of the apostles in the early church ambushing someone in a public setting to accuse them of evil without any prior polite, honorable, or normal one-to-one private confrontation. The principles of Matthew 18:15-16 and Galatians 6:1 emphasize a pattern of reconciliation and restoration in dealing with issues of sin or wrongdoing within the Christian community.

TD SAYS: WE OUGHT TO REPEAT THE MISSING PROPER CONFRONTATION VERSES

Matthew 18:15-16 (KJV):
“Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word may be established.”

Galatians 6:1 (KJV):
“Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such a one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”

These passages highlight the importance of addressing issues of sin or wrongdoing through a process of personal, private confrontation initially, and if necessary, involving a few witnesses or spiritual individuals for the purpose of restoration and reconciliation. The goal is to address the issue in a humble and loving manner, seeking the well-being and restoration of the person involved.

It’s essential to approach conflicts or accusations with a spirit of humility, grace, and a desire for restoration, following the biblical principles outlined in Matthew 18:15-16 and Galatians 6:1.

TD WONDERS: JESUS AS A SEER PROPHET IN ISAIAH 11:1-3 AND ASKS AI:

Jesus Christ was the highest office of ministry oversight. He was a prophet’s prophet. Please describe the meaning of the following Isaiah 11:1-3 (KJV) prophecy about the coming Messiah. His seer gifting was pure, not accusing, perceiving many devils on persons and “reading their minds” or vibes’ to save himself time.

“And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears.”

TAVEAU ASKS:
Q.DID Christ or His busy apostle disciples practice “deep scanning’ “spectral evidence” or divining or typecasting certain persons to avoid them, to spare them the expense or relating?

Q Did they far off spiritually discern to diagnose somebody to avoid speaking with them…underlying meaning: based upon their own power , Holy Spirit?

Q. Why did Jesus command to “ ‘weep with those who weep” in light of His surely exceeding busy, office prophet demands and hectic ministry schedule?

Q. AND when Jesus friend Lazarus,died and his good friends, the Sisters Mary and Martha were weeping and in deep grief… did Jesus scold the two women for being weak, having big baggage or unforgiveness…AND being ” overly emotional?”

Ai ANSWERS:
No, neither Jesus nor His apostles practiced “deep scanning,” “spectral evidence,” divining, or typecasting certain persons to avoid them or spare themselves the expense of relating to them. These practices are not in line with the teachings or actions of Jesus and His disciples as recorded in the Bible.

Jesus demonstrated deep compassion and empathy towards people, regardless of His busy schedule or the demands on His ministry. He encouraged His followers to “weep with those who weep” (Romans 12:15), showing the importance of empathy and compassion for those experiencing sorrow or difficulty. Jesus Himself wept when He saw the grief of others, such as at the death of His friend Lazarus (John 11:35).

In the case of Lazarus, Jesus did not scold Mary and Martha for being weak or overly emotional. Instead, He demonstrated understanding and comforted them in their grief. Jesus wept with them and then proceeded to perform a miraculous act of raising Lazarus from the dead, displaying His power over death.

Jesus consistently displayed love, compassion, and understanding in His interactions with people, even amidst His busy ministry schedule. His teachings emphasize the importance of loving one another, caring for those in need, and showing empathy towards others.

It’s important to approach the study of Jesus’ life and teachings with a biblical perspective, relying on the accounts recorded in the New Testament to gain a clear understanding of His actions and teachings.

The Cross Body Unity /TCL “Tennis Ball Selah”

TAVEAU’S FINAL QUESTION: this is open ended

Based upon the fruit described above of the major office ministries which name themselves as “prophets” and America awaits many of their words… Due to the topic of who is true and who is false on the governing Ministry Last Days Church training horizon.

How many of you would mark these traits, which are Christian ministry repeated massive fruits, as true or false? Being that I can vouch that each and every one of these appears to Jesus, but has this side fruit ongoing.

Who is a false prophet, apostle, pastor, ministry, and who is not based solely on the fruits I Luke Eyewitnessed over 30-plus servant leader years?

How far do we go before we assess someone as the false prophet?

Comments: tclleadership@gmail.com

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WHEN OLD BIBLE MOVES MEET NEW ONES… IT MAY BE “YOUR” MINISTRY SURPRISE!

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Paul representing the New Move,( ministry expansion) following the First Chosen 12, (the elite many) who’d been hand picked and mentored personally byJesus Himself. Yet humble Paul mature diminished himself and his “Gentile Prototype Galatians 1:1-2 office, a type of”breaker” “unique” (True Paul was brought up a strict,  traditional LP..yet a solid bold  zealot..who was keen and aware and precise, also deeply skilled.Hero Paul at first had been LP Saul “persecutor, rabid accuser” based on his intent on keeping every  letter of the  LP Torah  Law ( but to “please God) but the tranformed, once Elite Pharisee, skilled Jew,  now had an experience with Christ and became the First Church (eccentric?!) with his Gentile (very high call) However Paul  viewed himself “simply” ..(keeping an Eye on Eternity) …merely as the off scouring ‘”dung” of the world, perhaps “another foolish thing of the world, meant to confound the worldly wise”(I Cor 1:27) However, he praticed “all accepting” diverse (Eph 4)  Christian  pure “‘community” and “counted it all JOY” ..also practiced (I Timothy 6:6)  “Godly contentment”‘ in the midst of all of that!

THE LOCAL, AREA BIG BOSS…Since the TV Media Scandals, Ministry Accusation of the 1980s) Is there a current “running away”… being “big bossed away,” sin spied, chased away, even a holy fear of the Lord remnant fleeing from? (Paul’s 2 “get out!” end-time commands,(See 2 Timothy 3:1-5, I TImothy 6:5)… rather than the super religious  “Oh, it’s THEM…it’s all of THEIR fault! (means the NON CHURCHED, DIFFERENT FAITHS, ALL USA NON BELIEVERS”) “as WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ALL OF OUR LIVES that “THEY”  are (the long foretold) “end-time falling away”!) …..”it does NOT refer to  US!”

I submit this now as a peaceful, deeply concerned mainly USA ministry submitted Selah

PART 1 THE APOSTLE PAUL
WHEN AN OLD BIBLE MOVE MEETS A  NEW ONE
“IT MAY BE “YOUR” MINISTRY SURPRISE!
+ WHY BEING A “SENT MESSENGER”OFFICE GALATIANS 1:1-2 IS HEALTHY.

Specifically Galatians 1:1-2 “Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead; And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

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TD’S BASIS FOR THIS LP STUDY: The Culture Of Galatians First Church Was Steeped in Human Natural Environment:
 Galatians 1:1-2 “Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead; And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
NOTE about Galatia: Galatia was in what is now modern day Turkey. It was popluted by Celtic people who were noted for their tough culture. Much of which had been influenced by Roman and Hellentistic culture (Meaning: that after Paul made his missionary journey and planted churches,while he maturely represented the (not back”UNDER ” the Old Testament Levitical Law plus Christ’s servant leader governing model, (fellowship, ministry ,family, community, spouses..) which note as Ephesians 5:21 ‘mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” ..
.….which was well known as First Church order…which is also ongoing trained also by Apostle Paul.) Thus after Paul encounters the Galatians first church leaders ,later on, he must assert and describe “his own Galatians 1;1-2 apostle office  ‘authority” as evidently hardened and often mean, tough “carnal ” culture of authoritarianism and Law had crept back in (Galatians 3 “who has be bewitched you” implies tricked to go ‘backwards” to be “under” rules concious Law)..
…Which is what I  now face at nearly every turn in modern Christ following mega and micros large dutiful similar groups;
y Galatians 1:1-2 “Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:”
WE NOTE from many of this author’s Levitical Patriarch and apostolic governing True Bible First Church “authority” that after confirming that Ephesians 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord “was the servant hearted “standard” set first by Jesus, trained afterwards by Paul, and used throughout by all chief church apostles, and elders, leaders lay (which ties in with Ephesians 4 “abiding unified pure community”)
However, this was (as noted by Ai in a previous article PART 2 of ARE YOU SUBMITTED’ Minister Christ” that it was not until later when the similar Roman and Greek (Hellenistic ) authority tradtions infiltrated what had been an entirely “No Big Boss’ perserve disvision “Big I VS Little You’s (no superstars or favoring fans) as in “no division” that history notes that the authoritarian, some totalitarian non servant leader ministry models entered in.
We recall also that Paul chastized the Corinthians Church in I Corinthians 1 and 3..about division via ‘famous elevated sr ministry office FOLLOWING” (roots of celebrity in modern days)

MEGA APOSTLE “SENT” PAUL 

NOW PAUL IS VIEWED AS A WORLD WIDE, EPIC FAMOUS CELEBRITY..BUT BACK then he lived and endured and wrote…th meager servant leader apostle regarded himself  “DIRT’ and the ‘dung  of the world”

WE NOTE that Apostle Paul was a Galatians 1;1-2 mega office, however he viewed himself by the “only God truly sees” or “Eternal assesment ” simply one more of God’s servants, whom he described as “the offscouring” meaning “the dung” of this world.
And apostle Paul while we measure his life and major achievement in light of today as perhaps “the Famous Well Known Celebrity Paul’ when, if we lived back in his meager early days we would see the often “prison cell” real life deep reality ..of his love and his genuine and mature walk with Christ.
Yet apostle Paul was no junior minister, seeking after world wide renown, rather he was a SENT MESSENGER yet abiding servant leader who wrote 2/3 of the New Testament and trained the Community of Christians even naming and creating the office (prophet, apostle, teacher, pastor, evangelist) in Ephesians 4.
Yet with all we know about Apostle Paul and how valuable he was back in the day and ever now, more so. we cannot avoid realizing that whenever Paul penned the Ministry Vocabulary real life fellowship word, that we widely recognize and regard as “TRUE” and the OFFICE MINISTRY “Standard” even with some, or maybe many, who are regard those as an “achievement ” an “ambition” a big “position of award ” ” to obtain and attain” ..we must keep each of our own selves leveled as messenger Paul evidently did, before the eyes of God and himself, we note the following..that whenever the apostle Paul “the Church Galatians 1-1-2 “Sent Messenger” used any of the 5 fold office ministry words, plus the word “bishop’ and “deacon” that he always wrote them out with a lower case letter, (implying servant leader not chief potentate or celebrity” )
MOSTLY FOR THE “WONDER WORKING” …and this perservering writer believes that is one secret for ministry right this now.
Above: Paul as he writes about the failure to respect other members of Christ’s Body. This was back during the communion “Lord’s Supper” but that possibly reflects upon “the pure far reaching pure community” Today.
And now, as this writer pens this topic, and makes everyone in Christian leadership aware that while this person is a ‘her” that ‘she”God’s person first and foremost, not any other pastors, ministers or persons Galatians 1:1-2 similar equipping ministry office and in fact, sr office of all of the remaining for (just not well known other than to God Almighty) and “that’ is exactly how I prefer all of this, as there is too much ‘fame amid fancy” today.
So let us walk back to past times, in the Pre Christian far more global, predominately would darker skinned andtribal yet epic era (for this person regards much of the Christian world today in the ‘post Christian epic era” …So we must, realize about this and on behalf of the True Christ, and His Body adjust each of our own ambitious selves…and lower it. s, view the First Church, and self humble each one of our own First Love pure hearts, as unto the Living Lord.
Peace without the 2 Timothy 3:1-5 unction of ministry big dysfunction”
FIRST: ABOUT PAUL..HOW HE JOINED THE FIRST CHURCH OFFICE MINISTRY
Bible history teaches that the apostle Paul came later, after the 12 Original Apostles who were each handpicked and personally mentored by Jesus. He did not fit in with them at first, for he was not their “style” as they were used to “themselves’ and their traditions that they had learned sitting at Jesus Feet.
Paul, prior to his big encounter with the Lord had been the merciless Saul, a religious zealot and authoritarian legalist. In his righteous indignation and holy ire against God’s New Move…had angrily persecuted the new first church, even Big Boss murdering the Christians.
For Saul had regarded himself as “Defender of the Torah Law at nearly any cost!
HOWEVER LATER GOD GOT MINISTER SAUL’S LP ATTENTION and he genuinely had a major real life personal encounter with the Lord and repented, and born again!
Then,firey Saul transformed into Paul ..who was eager go serve in the First Church in Jerusalem. His ferver and zeal for things of Jesus Christ was authentic and servant pure. However the newly saved Paul met a road block with the first 12 chief apostle who had been hand picked and mentored ‘personally” by Jesus Christ ..and Paul had not been.
So in light of apostolic ministry , we may regard Paul as following after the first 12 and he had not been officially ‘hand picked” and “directly mentored ” and /or walked and talked personally with Jesus, yet in our overview and in major hindsight we can now regard Paul as “Home Schooled mostly by the Holy Spirit in first Love Relationship..mostly apart from the First 12 Organic Church Apostles (For about his first 13-14 Damascas, Syria years!)
TO TAVEAU ..HER SUBMITTED OPINION

This is my opinion regarding the pioneering ministry and the role of the Apostle Paul in relation to the first ministry leadership flow.

It represents a significant point of ministry training, particularly in light of the new move of God that is currently unfolding.

The information above is connected to a new article that focuses specifically on this topic. The article explores why the newly converted Paul was not initially favored by the first twelve apostles who were handpicked by Jesus. While I do not possess complete knowledge about the reasons behind this, I understand that it may be attributed to an “elite mindset” and issues related to territory.

To paint a picture, Christ imparted His teachings and instructions to the first apostles, preparing them for the challenges and responsibilities of leading the organic first church. However, as the natural and spiritual environment, society, and dogma changed over time, it necessitated the emergence of new spiritual revelations and individuals who could provide guidance. This is where Apostle Paul and others come into the picture.

The reason behind this is that each generation faces different challenges, requiring different approaches and insights. God raises up new individuals, with diverse backgrounds, nationalities, and revelations from the Holy Spirit, to contribute to the establishment and continuation of His church.

It is important to note that the already established group and the rising new group belong to the same community of saved believers. While they may share certain similarities in doctrines, their emphasis and methods may differ due to the specific circumstances and needs of their respective time periods.

I bring up these points not only for the future “ALL CHRISTIANS, ALL SAINTS’..apostolic international (non cult) Love Walk Respectful Diverse move but also to encourage the older generation to make room and embrace the evolving changes. It is crucial to willingly accept and contribute to this growth without feeling threatened or accusing others due to a lack of comprehensive ministry understanding.

Speaking from my own experiences and perspective, I have endured and taken up the cross to uncover what is now being said. I address both the old and the new movements, even the future ones, urging them to seek acceptance primarily from God and perhaps a select few individuals until He deems it appropriate.

THE CROSS BODY MOVE “it’s NOT all about MONEY or SUCCESS and MEGA AMBITIONS” as all of that HAS been thoroughly done and what is Church “now” and “upcoming Society?” 

PS GONE IS 2 CHRONICLES 7:14, Peter In New Testament to the Church “Let judgement begin in the house of God” (nobody trains on that, ministry addresses either and it’s because I believe this giant sized well organized massive high style mega crowd, simply does NOT “believe in it”(has NO faith or deep Eternal Life  higher perspective)

Now, it is fitting for this minister and the Ephesians 4 “Cross Body Movement” to come forward, placing emphasis on relationships and discovering the heart of God. While financial resources are necessary to support and advance this movement, the focus should always remain on the heart of God rather than money.

I acknowledge the need for money but will proceed cautiously and thoroughly in developing that aspect of the ministry, according to God’s guidance and timing.

RECALLING: Jan 2020 prior to Covid: TD Delivered the word from the Lord’ “THE DEMAS-IZTION OF AMERICA” (which is till on this on archives www.taveauleader.com)

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APOSTOLIC TAVEAU’S WISE MOTHER
Taveau’s own Mother said the following at least 3 times, while Taveau was a teenager.
TD’S Mom, was a Southern Baptist sr pastor’s wife, (not referred to as a pastor) yet one who stemmed from a nest of Noble Bereans and spirit-led prayer warriors  and women ministers…However, this kind, fine well bred real lady was not a “prophet” nor a Book of Acts’, “charismatic” as none of them, us were back in those non tongue talking type of days. (more Billy Graham like)
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And for TD’S Mom,  Nonie Simons Johnson to say this, way back when, was in hindsight truly prophetic for my move of God after being “SENT ” to surf and to study the many different styles of Bible-believing, professing to be born again Christians, around the United States ..Book of Acts and not, all races and worship styles. (since prior to 1980 through now)
Mother made this comment 2-3 times. Again, it was not ever her subject to comment on this type of ministry large topic.. So in hindsight, it was (in light of the modern days) was remarkable.
. This is what she noted:
“When a Bible teaching movement or group, is in place, well known, respected and accepted, then another movement begins to rise up but they are not famous or widely respected. They are “unknowns”and the well known and accepted , popular ministries “in place ” tends to openly suspect, name call, persecute, talk against, warn their people and look down on these “unknown” “rising’ (yet might ) authentic Bible God move.
(TAVEAU EXTRA POINT: also they more often than not, get word cursed “these are Absolum’ the Queen Jezebel or uspurping “our” authority,..perceived and accused and prayed against as ‘they are coming to TAKE OUR TURF (meaning, more often than not “gathering in money”)
MOM CONTINUED

However, after this new move grows, takes root, gains respect, acceptance, and becomes well-known, yet another new move begins.

Yet, just prior to this new move gaining respect and wide acceptance, the already established movement takes a dim view of the newest move. They feel skeptical, doubtful, and suspicious, disrespecting, speaking against, vilifying, mocking, and even disparaging what is God’s newest move, which has just started.

The set-in-place ministry soon reacts like those who had previously persecuted them. They may view the newest leaders as usurpers, undermining their position, and being offended. There can be bitterness toward them, creating a complex of persecution, martyrdom, and unease, which stems from fear.

TD ADDS :

Many times, there is a smug and accusing spirit of fear, fueled by the misunderstanding that the newer move is not supposed to be identical or under their own move.

This observation does not imply that all or most ministers experience these fears, but it is a perspective based on personal experience in Christian ministry across various scales, from grassroots to mega-multicampus endeavors, encompassing different races and both Book of Acts-style churches and others.

Hence, many ministers have deep fears, including concerns about “church hoppers,” “underminers,” Queen Jezebels, warlocks, known charismatic witches, and, worst of all to them, people who appear to be taking their congregants and their tithes, referred to as “sheep stealers” in some local areas. These ministers often guard their own turf, which brings them high esteem and necessary funds for survival.

I assess that the primal root of turf guarding is money, followed by their desire for power, supreme position, and standing in the community. Although there may be genuine love for the people and God’s purposes, until the hostile and manipulative use of false authority is removed, I have to submit that any negative actions or the use of false authority are primarily driven by their fear of losing their financial support, staff, and resources.

This, in turn, causes the set-in-place commonly known and widely regarded move to breed more accusations, to stubbornly withstand, and to persecute. They plant doubts about the new movement among fellow leaders and devout Christian followers. Collectively, they may block God’s latest move through spiritual powers, targeted word curses, soulish prayers, and spreading evil rumors. These forces are invisible yet hold significant power in the spirit realm.

Furthermore, there are word curses, a tendency to look down upon, speak against, and mock the next new and newer move. And so, the cycle continues.

WE WANT TO CONCLUDE:
This is all about the NEED, WANT of $$$
“Money answers all things”(even low esteem, ego)

Due to all of this, in my Christian ministry, I purposefully and intentionally teach that following Christ is not about money; it is about Him, the sovereign living Lord.

I also emphasize the core principles of applied Holy Bible faith, tracing it back to its original organic foundation. Unfortunately, many have disapproved of it due to its misuse, false teachings, and the pursuit of financial gain. This has transformed the once peaceful core movement into one mainly focused on prosperity teaching. While I won’t delve into that topic now, I have extensive knowledge of it due to having endured much abuse, ministry-related demonic encounters, and evil forces that nearly overwhelmed me as a Safe Person.

ME AND “ABIDING FAITH”

However, I firmly believe in isolating and explaining the core faith principles line by line, encouraging others to go back to each movement’s core founders who initiated it long ago. It is vital to examine their doctrines, lifestyles, and the fruits they produced. In my opinion, after the new movement founder has trained, modeled, and published their teachings, the challenge arises when the second, third, fourth, and subsequent generations of ministers and leaders claim to be under and represent the famous chief teachers. This often leads to confusion, strange fruits, and abuses when individuals misuse ministry personnel under the guise of being affiliated with and under the authority of these renowned leaders.


LONG HAUL, SLOW MOVE, LIFE LONG EPIC  OVERVIEW..THIS  MIGHTY MOVE

TD GOES BACK TO THE 1970s: I have noted this repeatedly in servant  leadership study of the Holy Ghost moves since the charimatic renewal, Jesus Peoples Daysfollowing American growth spirits and renewals, ministry training chief flows; Vineyard, Deliverance, Word  of Faith, CI Prophetic, and my other Holy Spirit prophetic, Bible training also worship and Book Acts supernatural gives “true holy moves)
ALL IN ALL
  1. There is a ongoing real MYSTERY, (for no one understands WHY)  for no one person, office, ministry, or fellowship can know it all. We see and know only in part, as stated in the Bible. Only Christ knows it all. The ongoing Christian mystery is how to do things right and foster unity, using TD’s study (while incorporating teachings from Paul and James 3:17). However, it’s important to recognize that there is no one-size-fits-all approach. We can work on minimizing lust, pride, vanity (LPV), which are core fallen human tendencies apart from Christ.

  2. We should understand that any genuine, Bible-based, true move of God in ministry, pastoring, teaching, and worship is simply the rough draft for the next new mighty move. This is a word given to this person in 2021.

“Every GENUINE  Move of God is the ROUGH DRAFT for His Next NEW MOVE”

      3.We need to prepare and acknowledge that new moves may emerge from any significant      generation, and they are not confined to only one major generation.

     4. As leaders, we must not be fearful or dishonoring towards God’s rising anointed individuals. We should not underestimate their importance. Paul had a different, more diverse DNA than the original twelve apostles of the first church who were hand-picked and personally mentored by Jesus. He was sent to the Gentiles and faced suspicion from the twelve apostles. He departed from them and spent 14 years in Damascus.

5. There is always a new move that may start from within the seats of fellowship, various conferences, or even at home through media platforms like TV or YouTube. It can even originate from individuals who may not attend a formal church anywhere or may never do so.**

**HERE IS CERTAINLY WHY the preumptius  frustrating accausing, sin spying and gossip filled high horse..loose lips, the major causeless accusing improper BAD fruit (2 Timothy 3:1-5 ongoing faultfinding, minus respectful one to one apostolic Matthew 18:15/Gal 6:1 in my mind keeps producing the “inability to trust”)
Because  almost any formal organized Christian ministry “faith filled gathering” it is so big boss “top governed and controlled ” (true mixed with high horse false authority) at present..and also there  “so much’ evil eye,  prying spying accusing, loose lips and limiting due to false teaching and  ministry use of Law…

I urge you to please use caution.

Here is why: Dr. T’s admonition regarding Paul’s three commandments about groups: He wants us to “go” (Hebrews 10:25), he commands us to escape, run for our lives (2 Timothy 3:1-5/1 Timothy 6:5). Occult pastors need to teach these verses line by line to defragment their people, elders, staff, and their own minds, addressing their true occult choices.

Closing with the biggest thought on all of this:

God is usually saving His BEST for LAST (this may be likened unto the “shock surprise” for the invited wedding guests, when they brought out  the “”best wine’ at the wedding in Cana, per Christ’s first amazing “miracle”).

And so it is “now”...though might be latent, unsure, expected, in the making, being processed, and perhaps the newest adventure in ministry.

HOW? OR WHY?

For out there (anywhere worldwide) and in every nation, regardless of background, race, or parenting culture, whether disadvantaged or pleasantly rewarded. Whether asleep in the nursery at home, in a shanty, a fellowship church nursery, or on the side of a road, somewhere is God’s future church. His major Ephesians 4 five-fold “each high called” silent movement rising offices. They will eventually accept Him, get to know Him, feel the call of the Spirit, and awaken to get a heavy revelatio ‘download”then rise up to hatch His Plan.

COMPROMISERS NOTE:

this means IF  we don’t kill them first…

YET..we know the End Is Nigh..but… it’s NOT ALL OVER..something is happening and ready to snap wide open!
Let’s get on the ball about HIM…. not OUR STUFF.
More later.
TO SUPPORT? Chiefly prayers for ALL OF THIS
TO GIVE: See our GIVE LINK at the top of this Home Page and also our views on that.
More later…
PS https://www.onlinefellowship.us which describes OUR “FUTURE CHURCH” MAIN MINISTRY PURPOSE
Mega Mighty Suprises and Wonderful Blessings.
Taveau
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PART 8 “THE AI AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? TO TURF PROTECTING OR PURE COMMUNITY?

 

 

PART 8 “THE Ai AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? TO COMMUNITY OR TURF PROTECTING?

Turf, Cults, Christian Worship  True, False Cultures

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PURPOSE?? TD’S INQUIRING MIND JUST HAS TO KNOW..

SO again, Dr T turns her to safe, trusty (*at least we tend to believe that for right now..) ChatGBT Ai Sidekick and inquires..seeks an objective opinion not her very own…
(NOTE this section will be included in PART 7 THE OVERVIEW OF BIBLE, SECULAR GENERAL BASIC”SUBJECT OF ” SUBMISSION

 

TD ASKS AI:
Describe turf protecting in light of First Church and “house to house” fellowshipping.. Explain that please.

AI RESPONDS:

Turf protecting refers to the behavior of individuals or groups within a larger organization who seek to protect their own interests, territories, or spheres of influence. It involves a mindset of guarding one’s own “turf” and can manifest as resistance to change, reluctance to collaborate or share resources, and a fear of losing control or power.

In the context of the early Christian community and the concept of “house to house” fellowshipping, turf protecting would be inconsistent with the spirit of unity, love, and mutual support that characterized the early Church.

The phrase “house to house” fellowshipping refers to the practice of believers gathering together in homes for worship, teaching, prayer, and fellowship. It signifies a decentralized and intimate form of Christian community where individuals shared their lives, supported one another, and grew in their faith together. This model of fellowship emphasized the importance of relational connections and mutual care within the body of believers.

Turf protecting, on the other hand, runs counter to this communal mindset. It promotes a territorial attitude that can hinder the organic growth of relationships and the sharing of resources and responsibilities. Turf protecting can create barriers and divisions within the community, impeding the free flow of love, support, and ministry between believers.

In contrast, the early Christian community exhibited a willingness to share resources and responsibilities, to meet each other’s needs, and to embrace a collective vision for advancing the Gospel. The apostle Paul, in his letters, emphasized the importance of unity, selflessness, and considering the needs of others above one’s own interests.

Therefore, in light of the “house to house” fellowshipping model practiced by the early Church, turf protecting would be incongruent with the spirit of open-heartedness, interdependence, and mutual edification that characterized their fellowship. Instead, the emphasis was on building genuine relationships, promoting unity, and supporting one another in their faith journey.

TD ASKS
Q. How does cronyism, Good Ole Boy Culture affect “turf protecting” and also the Christian traditional community

AI RESPONDS:
Cronyism and the “Good Ole Boy” culture can contribute to turf protecting within Christian traditional communities in several ways:

Reinforcement of Exclusive Networks: Cronyism and the Good Ole Boy culture often perpetuate exclusive networks where a select few hold positions of power and influence. These networks tend to favor those with existing connections or shared backgrounds, limiting opportunities for others. Turf protecting may arise as individuals within these networks strive to maintain their positions and prevent newcomers from challenging the established order.

Resistance to Change: Turf protecting is often driven by a desire to maintain the status quo and resist change that may threaten established power dynamics or traditional practices. Cronyism and the Good Ole Boy culture can foster an environment where innovation, fresh perspectives, and diverse voices are discouraged or overlooked. This resistance to change can hinder the growth, adaptability, and relevance of the Christian community.

Lack of Accountability: When cronyism and the Good Ole Boy culture prevail, there can be a lack of accountability among those in positions of influence. Turf protecting may involve protecting one another’s interests or turning a blind eye to misconduct or unethical behavior within the community. This lack of accountability can undermine trust, hinder transparency, and impede the development of a healthy and thriving Christian community.

Exclusion of Others: Turf protecting driven by cronyism and the Good Ole Boy culture can result in excluding individuals who do not fit within the established network or who challenge traditional norms. This exclusion may affect women, minorities, or those with different theological perspectives, limiting their opportunities to participate and contribute to the community. It can create an environment where certain voices are marginalized and their perspectives are not fully valued or considered.

Addressing cronyism, the Good Ole Boy culture, and turf protecting requires a commitment to fostering inclusivity, transparency, and accountability within Christian traditional communities. It involves actively seeking diverse voices and perspectives, promoting merit-based decision-making, encouraging open dialogue, and challenging established power structures. By embracing these principles, communities can promote a more equitable and vibrant environment where all members can participate and contribute fully.

DR TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q Does cronyism, Good Ole Boy, Girl Set in Culture create bias and Bible “respecter of persons” Explain how

 

AI ANSWERS

Yes, cronyism, the Good Ole Boy or Girl culture, and similar patterns can contribute to bias and a “respecter of persons” mentality within Christian communities. Here’s how:

Bias in Decision-Making: Cronyism and the Good Ole Boy or Girl culture involve favoring personal connections or associations over objective criteria when making decisions. This bias can lead to the exclusion of qualified individuals who are not part of the favored group. By prioritizing personal relationships, bias can perpetuate inequalities based on factors such as gender, race, socioeconomic status, or theological background.

Neglecting the Gifts and Contributions of Others: When cronyism or a Good Ole Boy or Girl culture takes hold, it can create a closed circle where certain individuals are consistently favored, while others are overlooked or undervalued. This mindset disregards the unique gifts, talents, and perspectives that each person brings to the community. It limits the community’s ability to benefit from the full range of God-given abilities within its midst.

Disregard for Fairness and Justice: The Bible consistently teaches against showing partiality or being a “respecter of persons” (Acts 10:34). God’s desire is for fairness, justice, and equal treatment for all. Cronyism and the Good Ole Boy or Girl culture undermine these principles by granting special privileges or opportunities to a select few, often without regard for merit or deserving. This disregard for fairness can create an environment that is contrary to the biblical teachings on justice and equality.

Hindering Unity and Love: The body of Christ is called to operate in unity and love, embracing one another as members of the same family (Romans 12:4-5). Cronyism, the Good Ole Boy or Girl culture, and bias contribute to division, exclusivity, and favoritism within Christian communities. These attitudes hinder the unity and love that should characterize the Church, preventing it from fully reflecting the transformative power of the Gospel.

It is important for Christian communities to actively address and combat these biases and cultural patterns.

By promoting inclusivity, recognizing the inherent worth and value of each person, and seeking to treat all individuals with fairness and justice, communities can strive to overcome the detrimental effects of cronyism, the Good Ole Boy or Girl culture, and bias.

Embracing the biblical teachings of impartiality and respect for all persons can help create an environment where all members are valued, empowered, and encouraged to contribute to the Kingdom of God.

NOTE: This part ties in PART 7 but is worth mentioning again ,as readers do not read everything


TAVEAU ASKS AI

Q. Define community, turf protecting, being controlled, freedom in Christ… “house to house” community type of model in the fellowship in First Church.

Q. How can one detect if it is a cult?

AI DEFINES AND DESCRIBES:

Let’s define each term you mentioned:

 

Community: Community refers to a group of individuals who come together, sharing common interests, goals, or values. It involves a sense of belonging, mutual support, and interdependence.

 

In the context of Christian faith, community often refers to a group of believers united by their shared faith in Christ and their commitment to living out the teachings of the Gospel together.

 

Turf protecting: Turf protecting, as discussed earlier, refers to the behavior of individuals or groups within a larger organization who seek to protect their own interests, territories, or spheres of influence. It involves a mindset of guarding one’s own “turf” and can lead to resistance to change, reluctance to collaborate or share resources, and a fear of losing control or power.

Being controlled: Being controlled refers to a state where an individual or a group is subjected to excessive influence, manipulation, or domination by others. It involves the suppression of personal autonomy, freedom of thought, or independent decision-making. In a healthy context, individuals should have the ability to exercise their own agency, make choices, and express their opinions without undue external control.

Freedom in Christ: Freedom in Christ refers to the spiritual liberation and empowerment that believers experience through their relationship with Jesus Christ.

It involves freedom from the guilt and condemnation of sin, freedom to live in accordance with God’s principles, and freedom from the bondage of legalistic or oppressive religious practices.

It encompasses the idea that believers are no longer enslaved to the demands of the law but are instead guided by the transformative power of God’s grace.

House to house fellowship in First Church and presently: “House to house” fellowship refers to the early Christian practice of believers gathering together in homes for worship, teaching, prayer, and mutual support.

It reflects an intimate and decentralized form of community where individuals shared their lives, supported one another, and grew in their faith together.

While this practice was prevalent in the early Church, it can still be found in various forms of small group gatherings or home churches today.

Detecting if a group is a cult can be challenging, as cults often employ manipulative tactics and psychological control mechanisms. However, some warning signs that might indicate a cult-like group include:

Absolute obedience to a charismatic leader or central figure.

Isolation and severing of ties with family and friends outside the group.

Manipulative use of fear, guilt, or coercive tactics to control members.

 Unquestioning allegiance to specific doctrines or teachings, with limited room for dissent or critical thinking.

Exploitation of members financially, emotionally, or physically.

A closed, insular community that discourages interaction with the outside world.

Denial or distortion of reality, including the rejection of objective truth or the manipulation of information.

The presence of abusive or harmful practices, such as psychological manipulation, physical abuse, or sexual exploitation.

Please note: If you suspect that a group may be a cult, it is important to seek guidance from trusted individuals or professionals who can help assess the situation objectively and provide appropriate support

TD ASKS
Q. Define being in a totaliatarian Christian ministy, group and how does that differ from a cult or is it the same?

Ai RESPONDS:
Being in a totalitarian Christian ministry or group refers to an environment where a strong central authority or leadership exerts significant control over the beliefs, behaviors, and lives of its members.

It involves a top-down structure with strict rules, regulations, and expectations imposed upon the members, leaving little room for individual autonomy or independent thinking.

Totalitarian Christian ministries or groups often have a rigid hierarchy and tightly control aspects of members’ lives, including their spiritual practices, relationships, and decision-making processes.

While there can be similarities between a totalitarian Christian ministry or group and a cult, it is important to note that they are not necessarily the same thing. Here are some key distinctions:

Beliefs and Teachings: Totalitarian Christian ministries or groups may hold mainstream Christian beliefs and teachings but enforce them in an authoritarian and controlling manner.

Cults, on the other hand, often have unique or divergent beliefs that deviate significantly from mainstream Christianity or manipulate traditional teachings to fit their own agenda.

Methods of Control: Totalitarian Christian ministries or groups exert control primarily through authoritarian leadership, strict regulations, and hierarchical structures.

Cults, on the other hand, tend to use a combination of psychological manipulation, coercive tactics, and indoctrination techniques to control their members’ thoughts, behaviors, and beliefs.

Degree of Harm: While both totalitarian Christian ministries/groups and cults can potentially cause harm to their members, cults are generally associated with more severe forms of psychological, emotional, or physical abuse due to their manipulative tactics and isolationist practices.

Transparency and Accountability: Totalitarian Christian ministries/groups may lack transparency and accountability due to the concentration of power in the hands of a few leaders.

 

Cults often intentionally obscure their true nature, limit contact with the outside world, and discourage critical examination or questioning of their practices and teachings.

 

It’s important to approach these distinctions with caution, as the line between a totalitarian Christian ministry/group and a cult can be blurred, and different situations may exhibit varying degrees of control and harm.

 

If you have concerns about a particular group or ministry, it is advisable to seek support from trusted individuals, professionals, or organizations that specialize in cult awareness or counseling to assess the situation accurately.

 

THE BOTTOM LINE FOR US MINISTERS, LEADERS:
WHO DO WE GENUINELY RESPECT… AND WHO DO WE LOVE?

This person submits..that THE ABIDING RELATIONSHIP PURE FRUIT..is what REVEALS it!

This includes servant leader apostolic EORR “

Equal Opportuniy REAL Respect

for the Office of Every Human Made in God’s Image  Psalm 139

NOTE: ALL OF THESE ARE “CORE VALUES OF CROSS BODY UNITY  

TAVEAU ASK AI
Q. What is “respecter of persons” in the Bible?

Ai ANSWERS:

The phrase “respecter of persons” is found in the Bible and is used to describe an attitude or behavior that shows favoritism or partiality toward certain individuals based on external factors such as their social status, wealth, appearance, or influence, rather than treating them impartially or equally.

The concept of being a “respecter of persons” goes against the principles of justice, fairness, and the impartiality that God desires.

The term is primarily derived from the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, particularly in the New Testament. Here are a few instances where the phrase is mentioned:

Acts 10:34 (KJV): “Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.”

In this verse, Peter acknowledges that God does not show partiality or favoritism but welcomes people from all backgrounds and nations into the family of believers. It highlights the impartiality of God’s love and grace.

James 2:1-4 (KJV):My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?”

James warns against showing favoritism based on outward appearances, stressing that it contradicts the principles of the faith and demonstrates a lack of genuine love and equality among believers.

These passages emphasize the importance of treating all individuals with fairness, impartiality, and love, regardless of their social status, appearance, or worldly influence.

They call believers to follow God’s example by extending grace and kindness to everyone without showing favoritism or prejudice.

TAVEAU ASKS:
Q. Is a cult, turf guarding or community more likely to display a respecter of persons spirit ?

Q. How does a “respecter of persons” spirit reflect on a church ministry or church?

 

 

AI RESPONDS:
A “respecter of persons spirit” is more likely to be displayed in a cult or a ministry/group that exhibits authoritarian or controlling tendencies.

In such environments, leaders may show favoritism or give preferential treatment to certain individuals based on their status within the group, their compliance with the leadership’s directives, or their perceived loyalty.

This can create a hierarchical structure where those who are deemed more important or influential receive special privileges, while others are marginalized or excluded.

In contrast, a healthy community or church ministry seeks to foster an atmosphere of equality, inclusion, and love for all members.

It values each person as a unique creation of God and treats them with fairness and respect, regardless of their background, social status, or level of involvement.

A church that embraces a “respecter of persons” spirit can hinder the unity and flourishing of the community, as it undermines the biblical principles of equality, mutual submission, and the recognition of every individual’s inherent worth.

A religious “respecter of persons” spirit reflects negatively on a church ministry or church because it contradicts the core teachings of Christianity.

The Bible consistently emphasizes the value of every person, regardless of their external attributes or societal standing.

It calls for the practice of love, justice, and impartiality in all interactions.

When a ministry or church fails to embody these principles and instead exhibits favoritism or partiality, it undermines its credibility, hinders genuine community-building and may create an environment where certain individuals are exploited or oppressed.

Churches that strive to reflect the heart of God and live out the teachings of Jesus Christ should actively combat a respecter of persons spirit.

They should cultivate a culture of inclusivity, grace, and fairness, where each member is valued, empowered, and given the opportunity to contribute their unique gifts and perspectives.

By doing so, the church can foster a vibrant and transformative community that reflects the love and character of Christ.

FOR THE RECORD”
emotional, and even physical harm to their followers.

TAVEAU ASKS:
Q. What purpose does totalitarian ministry serve?

 

AI ANSWERS”
A totalitarian ministry is one characterized by absolute control and authority over its members. While some individuals within such ministries may argue that they serve a higher purpose, it is important to recognize that totalitarianism in any context can be highly problematic and detrimental to individual freedom and well-being. Here are some purposes that a totalitarian ministry may serve, though these purposes are generally not in the best interest of its members:

 

Control and Power: Totalitarian ministries seek to establish and maintain control over their members. They exercise authority over various aspects of their followers’ lives, including their beliefs, behaviors, relationships, and even thoughts. This control allows the leaders to shape the direction and activities of the ministry according to their own vision or agenda.

 

Self-Preservation and Influence: Leaders of a totalitarian ministry may prioritize the preservation of their own position, influence, and authority. They may use tactics such as manipulation, fear, and intimidation to ensure the loyalty and obedience of their followers. By maintaining control, they can safeguard their own status and maintain a devoted following.

 

Ideological Purity: Totalitarian ministries often emphasize a rigid adherence to specific doctrines or ideologies. They may claim to possess exclusive or superior knowledge and discourage critical thinking or questioning of their teachings. The goal is to create a unified belief system and suppress dissent or alternative perspectives.

 

Expansion and Dominance: Some totalitarian ministries seek to expand their influence and reach. They may engage in aggressive proselytizing efforts, missionary work, or recruitment strategies to attract new members and establish a wider presence. The focus is often on growing the ministry’s influence and increasing its following.

 

Establishing a Community or Identity: Totalitarian ministries can provide a sense of community, identity, and belonging to their members. By creating a tightly knit group with shared beliefs and practices, they offer individuals a place where they feel accepted and part of something greater than themselves. However, this sense of community is often contingent upon strict adherence to the ministry’s doctrines and submission to the leaders’ authority.

 

It is important to note that while some individuals may find comfort or purpose within a totalitarian ministry, the overarching control and manipulation exerted by such ministries can lead to the suppression of individual autonomy, independent thinking, and personal freedom. The purposes served by a totalitarian ministry are often driven by the interests and agenda of the leaders, rather than the well-being and spiritual growth of the members.

TAVEAU ASKS
Q. What purposes do cults serve?

AI ANSWERS
Cults serve a variety of purposes, but it is important to note that cults are generally considered harmful and manipulative groups that exploit their members. While some individuals may be initially drawn to cults seeking meaning, purpose, or a sense of belonging, the actual purposes that cults serve often revolve around the control and manipulation of their members. Here are a few purposes that cults may serve:

Power and Control: Cult leaders seek power and control over their followers. They often exert influence through psychological manipulation, isolation from outside influences, and strict adherence to their own doctrines and rules. By maintaining control over their members, cult leaders can shape their beliefs, behaviors, and actions to serve their own interests.

 

Self-Preservation and Financial Gain: Cult leaders may exploit their followers for personal financial gain. They may encourage or require members to make financial contributions, donate assets, or work for the cult without fair compensation. Cult leaders often use these resources to enrich themselves and maintain their own lifestyles.

 

Validation of Beliefs and Ideologies: Cults often promote and reinforce their own unique belief systems, which may deviate significantly from mainstream or established religious teachings. They create an insular environment where their beliefs and ideologies are unquestioned and members are discouraged from critically examining or questioning the teachings of the group. This serves to validate and perpetuate the leader’s doctrines and control over the followers.

 

Emotional Manipulation and Exploitation: Cults may exploit the emotional vulnerabilities of individuals by offering them a sense of purpose, community, or belonging. They often employ manipulative techniques such as love-bombing (overwhelming individuals with love and attention), creating a dependency on the group, and instilling fear or guilt to maintain control over their followers.

Identity and Social Structure: Cults provide a tightly-knit community where individuals can find a sense of identity and belonging. They may offer an alternative social structure that promises acceptance and validation for those who conform to the group’s norms and teachings. This can be appealing to individuals who feel isolated, disconnected, or marginalized in their everyday lives.

It is important to recognize that while cults may fulfill certain needs for their members, they do so through manipulation, control, and often at the expense of individual autonomy, personal freedom, and well-being. Cults typically employ coercive tactics that can lead to psychological, emotional, and even physical harm to their followers.

TAVEAU ASKS Ai
Q. What purpose does “turf protecting” serve?

Ai ANSWERS
Turf protecting refers to the behavior of safeguarding one’s territory, influence, or control within a specific context, often in a possessive or defensive manner. While it can serve various purposes depending on the situation and individuals involved, here are a few common purposes that turf protecting may serve:

Control and Power: Turf protecting can be driven by a desire to maintain control and power over a particular domain. Individuals or groups may engage in turf protecting to ensure their authority or influence remains unchallenged and to prevent others from encroaching upon their territory or position of authority.

Resource Allocation: Turf protecting may also be motivated by the desire to control and allocate limited resources. This can include tangible resources such as funding, physical spaces, or assets, as well as intangible resources like opportunities, recognition, or influence. By protecting their turf, individuals or groups aim to retain control over these resources and prevent others from accessing or benefiting from them.

Reputation and Status: Turf protecting can be driven by concerns about reputation and status. People may be motivated to safeguard their perceived expertise, credibility, or reputation within a particular domain. They may resist or discourage others from encroaching upon their turf, fearing that it could undermine their standing or recognition within their field or community.

Personal Identity and Validation: Turf protecting can be linked to one’s personal identity and the need for validation or affirmation. Individuals may strongly identify with a particular role, profession, or domain, and view it as central to their self-worth or identity. Protecting their turf helps reinforce their sense of identity and validates their expertise or significance within that domain.

Fear of Change or Competition: Turf protecting can stem from a fear of change, losing one’s position, or facing competition. Individuals or groups may resist new ideas, innovations, or perspectives that could disrupt or challenge the established order. By protecting their turf, they aim to maintain the status quo and prevent potential threats to their position or influence.

It is important to note that while turf protecting may serve certain purposes for individuals or groups, it can also hinder collaboration, innovation, and the growth of a community or organization. Excessive turf protecting can lead to conflicts, stagnation, and a lack of openness to new ideas or perspectives. Balancing the need for personal boundaries and healthy competition with a spirit of collaboration and cooperation is crucial for the overall well-being and progress of a community or organization.

TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q What purpose does a harmonious,free will community serve

 

Ai ANSWERS
A harmonious, free will community serves several meaningful purposes that promote individual well-being and collective growth. Here are some key purposes:

 

Support and Belonging: A harmonious, free will community provides a sense of support, acceptance, and belonging for its members. It fosters an environment where individuals feel valued, respected, and understood. This sense of belonging promotes emotional well-being and encourages individuals to freely express themselves, contributing to a positive and nurturing social atmosphere.

 

Collaboration and Cooperation: In a harmonious, free will community, individuals have the freedom to collaborate and cooperate with one another willingly. They can share their unique skills, knowledge, and perspectives for the betterment of the community as a whole. This collaboration leads to creative problem-solving, innovation, and collective progress.

 

Personal Growth and Empowerment: A harmonious, free will community supports personal growth and empowerment. It recognizes and respects the autonomy and agency of each individual, allowing them to make choices, pursue their passions, and develop their talents and skills. This environment encourages self-expression, self-discovery, and the fulfillment of personal potential.

 

Diversity and Inclusion: A harmonious, free will community embraces diversity and inclusion. It values and celebrates the differences among its members, including their backgrounds, cultures, experiences, and perspectives. This diversity enriches the community, broadens understanding, and encourages empathy and respect for others.

 

Shared Values and Purpose: A harmonious, free will community often shares common values and purpose. It provides a platform for individuals to align their efforts towards a common goal, whether it be personal growth, social impact, or spiritual development. This shared purpose fosters unity, cohesion, and a collective sense of meaning and fulfillment.

 

Emotional and Spiritual Nourishment: A harmonious, free will community provides emotional and spiritual nourishment. It offers opportunities for individuals to connect deeply with others, find emotional support, and explore their spiritual beliefs and practices. This nurturing environment promotes overall well-being and enables individuals to thrive holistically.

Positive Impact on Society: A harmonious, free will community has the potential to extend its positive influence beyond its boundaries. It can inspire and model values such as compassion, integrity, and social responsibility, contributing to the betterment of society at large. By promoting personal growth, empathy, and a sense of interconnectedness, it encourages its members to make positive contributions to the world.

In summary, a harmonious, free will community serves to foster support, collaboration, personal growth, diversity, shared values, emotional and spiritual nourishment, and positive impact on both its members and society as a whole.

 

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PART 7 “THE AI AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? TO GOVERNING MINISTRY AUTHORITY

THIS PART 7 deals with ‘form of organizational government” in Christian minsitry, whereas the basis for  PART 2 deals a persons, family,marriage, male, female plus a ministers Ephesians 5:21 “submission”

 

PART 7 “THE Ai AND I” ARE YOU SUBMITTED? BASIC CHRISTIAN SUBMISSION OUT LINE

“Mutual submission in the reverential fear of the Lord” Ephesians 5:21
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TAVEAU ASKS CHAT GPT Ai

TD ASKS AI TO DEFINE “SUBMISSION”
Q. Please define basic “submission”

AI ANSWERS
The term “submission” can have different meanings depending on the context. Here are a few common definitions:

Act of Submitting: Submission refers to the act of presenting or offering something for consideration, judgment, or approval. It can involve providing information, documents, forms, or any other required materials to a person, organization, or system that has authority or control over the matter.

Compliance and Obedience: Submission can also refer to the state or act of complying with or obeying someone else’s authority, rules, or instructions. It implies yielding to the will or power of another person or entity.

Sports and Competitions: In the context of sports or competitions, submission typically refers to a technique or move used to force an opponent to concede defeat by tapping out or verbally acknowledging their inability to continue. In combat sports such as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or mixed martial arts, submission techniques aim to immobilize, control, or cause pain to the opponent, compelling them to give up.

Literary and Artistic Submissions: In creative fields, such as writing, art, or film, submission refers to the act of offering or presenting one’s work for evaluation, review, publication, or inclusion in a competition or exhibition. Artists, writers, or filmmakers may submit their work to publishers, galleries, contests, or other platforms for consideration.

Surrender or Yielding: Submission can also connote the act of surrendering, yielding, or giving in to a situation, circumstance, or dominant force. It implies accepting or accommodating a particular outcome, often with a sense of resignation or acquiescence.

The exact meaning of “submission” depends on the specific context in which it is used.

TD NEEDS AI TO CLARIFY:
Q. How does “submission” pertain in joining a ministry, fellowship or group ..define submission in that group?

 

THE AI ANSWERS:
In the context of joining a ministry, fellowship, or group, submission typically refers to the act of voluntarily placing oneself under the authority, leadership, and guidance of the group’s leaders or governing structure. It involves recognizing and respecting the established hierarchy, rules, and principles of the group and willingly adhering to them.

Here are some key aspects of submission within a ministry, fellowship, or group:

Respect for Leadership: Submission entails showing respect and deference to the leaders and authority figures within the group. This includes recognizing their positions, expertise, and responsibilities, and acknowledging their decisions and guidance.

Obedience to Guidelines: Members who are in submission adhere to the established guidelines, rules, and principles set forth by the group. They willingly follow the group’s code of conduct, protocols, and teachings, understanding that these guidelines are in place to maintain order, unity, and a shared sense of purpose.

Collaboration and Teamwork: Submission involves working collaboratively with other members of the group, recognizing the value of teamwork and the collective effort in achieving the group’s objectives. It often requires putting the interests of the group and its mission above individual preferences or ambitions.

Willingness to Serve: Those in submission willingly offer their skills, talents, and time to contribute to the needs and goals of the group. They embrace a servant-hearted attitude, seeking to support and uplift others within the group and the broader community they serve.

Openness to Correction and Growth: Submission involves being open to receiving feedback, correction, and constructive criticism from leaders and fellow members. It requires humility and a willingness to learn, grow, and adapt based on the group’s shared vision and values.
It’s important to note that submission within a ministry, fellowship, or group should be a voluntary and mutual choice, where leaders and members work together to create an environment of trust, accountability, and mutual support.


TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q. Tell the difference in Christian Submission in a church, fellowship or group and being overly controlled, dominated, a cult and ministry that is totalitarianism and Big Boss dominating

AI ANSWERS:
Christian submission within a church, fellowship, or group is ideally based on principles of love, mutual respect, and a shared commitment to serving God and one another. It should promote a healthy sense of community, accountability, and spiritual growth.

On the other hand, being overly controlled, dominated, or part of a cult or ministry characterized by totalitarianism and a dominating “Big Boss” figure is an extreme and unhealthy deviation from the biblical concept of submission.

 

Here are some key differences:
Leadership Style: In a healthy Christian setting, leaders are expected to serve as humble and compassionate shepherds who guide, nurture, and empower the members. They lead by example and encourage individual spiritual development and personal relationship with God. In contrast, an overly controlling or dominating leadership style is characterized by manipulation, fear, coercion, and the abuse of power. It suppresses individuality, critical thinking, and personal autonomy.

Freedom of Choice and Individuality: Christian submission within a healthy church or fellowship allows for the freedom of choice and individual expression within the bounds of biblical principles and community values. Each member is encouraged to develop their unique gifts, talents, and callings.

In contrast, an environment dominated by a cult or totalitarian ministry suppresses individuality, restricts personal freedom, and demands strict conformity to the ideologies and directives of the leaders. Personal thoughts, opinions, and actions are heavily monitored and controlled.

Accountability and Transparency: In a healthy Christian setting, leaders and members are accountable to one another and operate with transparency. Decision-making processes are inclusive and involve input from various members. Leaders are open to feedback, correction, and accountability.

 

In contrast, in a controlling or cult-like environment, leaders are often inaccessible, unaccountable, and make decisions unilaterally. Information is tightly controlled, and dissent or questioning of authority is discouraged or punished.

Focus on Christ and Scripture: Christian submission within a healthy church or fellowship centers around Christ and the teachings of the Bible. The ultimate authority is God’s Word, and leaders strive to align their actions and teachings with biblical principles. In contrast, in an overly controlling or cultish environment, the focus may shift away from Christ and Scripture, and leaders may claim exclusive divine revelation or manipulate the interpretation of scriptures to maintain control and dominance.

Well-being and Personal Growth: A healthy Christian community promotes the well-being and personal growth of its members, both spiritually and emotionally. It encourages individual gifts, talents, and passions, and supports members in their personal journeys of faith. In contrast, an environment characterized by excessive control and domination may lead to psychological, emotional, and spiritual harm, stifling personal growth, and suppressing the individual’s well-being.

It’s crucial for individuals to be discerning and vigilant in evaluating the dynamics and practices within a church, fellowship, or ministry to ensure they align with healthy Christian principles of love, respect, freedom, accountability, and growth. If concerns arise about an unhealthy or abusive environment, seeking guidance from trusted spiritual advisors or professional counselors can be helpful.


TAVEAU ASKS AI:

Please define a cult, totalitarian ministry leadership, and contrast it to the atmosphere of a balanced, firm, top leader ministry office sr authority with many persons in chain of command under them and with many followers that create a need for infrastructure

AI RESPONDS:
Certainly! (yes it said that!) Let’s define cult, totalitarian ministry leadership, and contrast them with the atmosphere of a balanced, firm, top leader ministry office with a chain of command and infrastructure:

Cult:A cult refers to a group or organization characterized by extreme devotion to a particular individual, ideology, or belief system. Some defining characteristics of a cult include:

Charismatic Leader: A cult typically revolves around a charismatic leader who holds significant influence and control over the members. This leader often claims exclusive authority, divine inspiration, or special knowledge.

Manipulation and Control: Cults employ various tactics to manipulate and control their followers. These can include isolation from outside influences, strict behavioral codes, psychological manipulation, and the suppression of independent thought.

Exploitation: Cult leaders often exploit their followers financially, emotionally, or sexually for their own gain or power.

Indoctrination and Mind Control: Cults use intense indoctrination techniques to mold the beliefs, values, and behaviors of their members. These techniques may involve thought-stopping methods, groupthink, and the discouragement of critical thinking or questioning.

Totalitarian Ministry Leadership:
Totalitarian ministry leadership refers to a leadership style that exhibits strong authoritarian tendencies, exerting significant control over the organization and its members. Key characteristics may include:

Centralized Power: The leadership structure is highly centralized, with all decision-making concentrated in the hands of a few individuals. There is little to no input or influence from the lower ranks or followers.

Lack of Accountability: Leaders in a totalitarian ministry exercise power without proper checks and balances. They are not held accountable for their actions or decisions.

Suppression of Dissent: Dissent or questioning of authority is discouraged or punished. Independent thinking or differing opinions are seen as a threat and suppressed.

Fear and Coercion: Fear and coercion are used to maintain control over followers. Punitive measures, manipulation, and intimidation tactics may be employed to ensure compliance.
Limited Individuality: Individuality and personal autonomy are suppressed in favor of complete submission and conformity to the directives of the leaders.

TD ASKS AI: 

Contrast: A Balanced, Firm, Top Leader Ministry Office with Infrastructure:

AI RESPONDS:
A balanced, firm, top leader ministry office with infrastructure represents a more healthy and functional leadership model. Some characteristics may include:

Shared Decision-Making: Decision-making involves consultation and input from various individuals and levels within the organization. The top leader values collaboration and seeks wisdom from a diverse range of voices.

Accountability and Transparency: Leaders are accountable to a higher authority, such as a board of directors, governing body, or established policies. They operate transparently, communicating openly with their subordinates and maintaining integrity in their actions.

Respect for Individuality: The leadership acknowledges and encourages the unique gifts, talents, and contributions of individuals within the organization. They value personal growth and development.

Balanced Authority and Empowerment: While the top leader holds authority, they also empower and delegate responsibilities to others in the organization. This encourages leadership development and shared ownership.

Infrastructure and Organizational Support: A well-established infrastructure provides the necessary systems, resources, and support to facilitate the smooth functioning of the ministry. This includes clear lines of communication, administrative processes, and appropriate training programs.

T
In summary, a cult and a totalitarian ministry leadership exhibit manipulative, controlling, and exploitative characteristics, while a balanced, firm, top leader ministry office values collaboration, accountability, individuality, and the development of its members. Additionally, it provides the necessary infrastructure to support the organization’s mission and operations.

 


TD ADDS HER OWN POINT

CERTAIN FRUITS OF CHRISTIAN BIG BOSS DOCTRINES
“If we walk in the light as He is in the light, then we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” – 1 John 1:7

In light of the modern tendency for some groups or ministries to protect their own turf, exert excessive control, and promote a cult-like exclusivity, it is important to reflect on the latter part of this significant verse. By refusing to interact, respect, relate to, and value others, one is essentially prioritizing their own self-interests and divisions over the pure acceptance and unity found in Jesus. This solemnly implies that if we are not walking in the light and respecting one another, we are distancing ourselves from the healthy, safe, and life-saving power of the blood of Jesus.

Furthermore, this verse suggests that intentionally withholding relationships, especially after advertising a ministry that claims to respect the fellowship of Christ, while simultaneously benefiting from the offerings of others, is indicative of false teaching or a group that does not truly embody the principles of Christ.

 

It is important to recognize that witchcraft (I Samuel 15:23, Matthew 7:21-23 unrighteous iniquity), characterized by false authority and fear-based control, often accompanies such behavior, along with the scowls and accusations of ambitious leaders promoting their own agendas rooted in outdated and oppressive doctrines.

In contrast, true fellowship and unity are built upon walking in the light, respecting one another, and embracing the pure heart of Jesus, which is accepting and valuing all individuals. It is crucial to discern and reject any teachings or groups that deviate from these principles, as they distort the essence of Christ’s message and hinder the genuine growth and unity of the body of believers.


SPECIFIC TYPES OF MINISTRY AUTHORITY

TD NEEDS TO CLARIFY
Q. How does a christian ministry system, algorithm difference from a fellowship. cult, totalitarian sect?

Ai ANSWERS
A Christian ministry system, algorithm, fellowship, cult, and totalitarian sect can have distinct characteristics and purposes. Let’s explore their differences:

Christian Ministry System: A Christian ministry system typically refers to an organized structure within the Christian faith that aims to serve and spread the teachings of Christianity. It may consist of various departments, teams, or individuals working together to fulfill a specific mission or purpose. Ministries can focus on activities such as worship, evangelism, community service, education, or pastoral care. The emphasis is on promoting the teachings of Jesus Christ and helping individuals grow spiritually.

Algorithm: An algorithm, in a general sense, is a set of step-by-step instructions or rules followed to solve a specific problem or accomplish a task. In the context of a Christian ministry system, an algorithm may refer to the strategic planning or decision-making process used to guide the ministry’s operations.

 

It could involve identifying target populations, determining outreach methods, allocating resources, and evaluating effectiveness. Algorithms can help streamline processes and provide a systematic approach to ministry activities.

Fellowship: Fellowship in a Christian context typically refers to a group of believers who come together to encourage, support, and spiritually uplift one another. It often involves gathering for communal worship, prayer, studying the Bible, and fostering a sense of community.

Fellowships can exist within larger churches or as independent groups. The focus is on building relationships, mutual edification, and living out Christian values together.

Cult: A cult is a term that is often used to describe a religious or spiritual group that exhibits certain negative characteristics.

Cults are typically characterized by authoritarian leadership, manipulation, coercion, isolation from mainstream society, and the exploitation of members. They may employ mind control techniques, restrict personal freedom, and demand unquestioning loyalty. Cults often deviate from established religious traditions and may emphasize the authority of a charismatic leader or the exclusivity of their beliefs.

Totalitarian Sect: A totalitarian sect, similar to a cult, is a religious group that exercises strict control over its members’ lives and often seeks to dominate or control society at large. Totalitarian sects typically have a highly centralized structure with an authoritative leader who governs with absolute power.

 

They often suppress dissent, restrict individual freedoms, and demand complete obedience to their doctrine. Such sects are known for their oppressive and manipulative tactics and may pose a threat to personal autonomy and human rights.

It’s important to note that while the terms “cult” and “totalitarian sect” carry negative connotations due to their association with harmful practices, not all Christian ministries or fellowships fall into these categories.

PLEASE POINT OUT..that the vast majority of Christian ministries and fellowships operate within ethical and moral boundaries, emphasizing love, compassion, and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

 


MINISTRY FORM AND THEIR MONEY
TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q.Is there a difference emphasis and priority on income, revenue in any of the following MORE than the others Christian ministry system, algorithm, church, minsitry fellowship, cult, hierchal bureaucracy or totalitarian sect?

Ai ANSWERS
The emphasis and priority placed on income and revenue can vary among the different entities you mentioned. Here’s a general overview of how these groups may approach financial matters:

Christian Ministry System/Church: Christian ministry systems and churches can have a wide range of approaches when it comes to income and revenue. While they do require financial resources to support their activities and maintain their facilities, their primary focus is typically on fulfilling their spiritual mission, serving their communities, and spreading the teachings of Christianity.

Churches often rely on donations from their members and may engage in fundraising efforts to support their operations, charitable initiatives, and outreach programs. However, the primary emphasis is generally on spiritual growth and the well-being of their congregations.

Algorithm: Algorithms, as computational processes, do not inherently have a focus on income or revenue. They are sets of instructions used to solve problems or accomplish tasks efficiently.

However, if an algorithm is developed and implemented within a commercial or business context, there may be an emphasis on optimizing revenue generation or cost-efficiency. In such cases, the algorithm may be designed to enhance marketing strategies, improve sales processes, or automate financial calculations. The financial focus would stem from the broader business goals rather than the algorithm itself.

Ministry Fellowship: Ministry fellowships, similar to Christian ministry systems, are typically focused on spiritual growth, community, and mutual support among their members. While they may require financial resources to sustain their activities, the emphasis on income and revenue would generally be secondary to their primary mission of fostering spiritual development and building relationships.

Cult/Totalitarian Sect: Cults or totalitarian sects may differ significantly from traditional Christian ministries or fellowships in their approach to finances. In some cases, these groups may prioritize accumulating wealth and exerting control over their members’ financial resources.

They may employ coercive tactics to extract money from their followers, using manipulative strategies such as demanding excessive donations, pressuring members to sell their assets, or exploiting their vulnerability for financial gain. Accumulating wealth and maintaining control over resources can be central to the agenda of such groups, often serving the interests of the leaders rather than the spiritual well-being of the members.

Hierarchical Bureaucracy: A hierarchical bureaucracy, in a general sense, refers to an organizational structure with multiple levels of authority and decision-making. It does not inherently prioritize income or revenue.

However, in some cases, religious organizations or administrative bodies within the hierarchy may focus on financial aspects, such as budgeting, financial planning, and resource allocation. The emphasis on income and revenue within a hierarchical bureaucracy would depend on the specific goals and priorities set by the organization or leadership.

It’s important to note that the emphasis on income and revenue can vary greatly within each of these entities, and the presence of financial considerations does not necessarily imply negative intentions or practices. However, it is crucial to exercise discernment and evaluate any group’s actions and teachings to ensure alignment with ethical and moral standards.

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CHRISTIAN MEN AND WOMEN’S EXCLUSIVE MINISTRY CLUBS, GROUPS
TAVEAU ASKS AI:

Ai, please define “cronyism” Boys Club “ Boys will be Boys in modern day Christian leadership

 

AI RESPONDS:

“Cronyism” refers to the practice of favoring close friends or associates, typically by granting them positions of power, influence, or opportunities, often without regard for their qualifications or abilities. It involves the prioritization of personal relationships over merit or fairness in decision-making processes.

The term “Boys Club” is commonly used to describe an exclusive social or professional network composed predominantly of men who support and promote each other’s interests, often to the exclusion or detriment of women or other marginalized groups. It implies a closed circle where access and opportunities are limited to a select few based on their gender or personal connections, reinforcing gender bias and inequality.

The phrase “Boys will be Boys” is a cultural stereotype and often a dismissive justification for certain behaviors associated with males, particularly in situations involving misconduct, irresponsibility, or inappropriate actions. It suggests that such behavior is to be expected or excused as a natural or inevitable consequence of being male.

In the context of modern-day Christian leadership, these terms highlight certain problematic tendencies that can occur within religious institutions or organizations.
Christian leadership should ideally be characterized by qualities such as integrity, fairness, inclusivity, and a commitment to serving others.

However, when cronyism, the Boys Club mentality, or the “Boys will be Boys” attitude seep into Christian leadership, it can undermine the principles of fairness, equality, and ethical conduct that should guide such leadership roles.

These practices can result in exclusionary decision-making processes, unequal opportunities for women or other individuals from marginalized groups, and a culture that tolerates or perpetuates misconduct or inappropriate behavior.

They can hinder the growth and effectiveness of Christian leadership by limiting diverse perspectives, undermining accountability, and fostering an environment that is not conducive to the teachings of love, justice, and service espoused by the Christian faith.

TAVEAUS ASK AI TO BE MORE SPECIFIC REGARDING GROUPS:
Ai, please define a Boys Club, cronyism and clique. And also do any of these has a exclusive, “respecter of pet persons’ cult like feel

Ai REPLIES:
 Let’s define each term:

Boys Club: Boys Club refers to an exclusive social or professional network composed predominantly of men who support and promote each other’s interests. It implies a closed circle where access and opportunities are limited to a select few based on their gender or personal connections, often excluding or marginalizing women or individuals from other groups.

The Boys Club mentality perpetuates gender bias and can result in unequal treatment and opportunities within a particular setting or organization.

Cronyism: Cronyism is the practice of favoring close friends or associates, typically by granting them positions of power, influence, or opportunities, regardless of their qualifications.
It involves prioritizing personal relationships over merit or fairness in decision-making processes. Cronyism often leads to nepotism, where individuals in power grant favorable treatment to their family members or close associates.***

***This practice can create an environment of unfairness, where deserving individuals are overlooked in favor of personal connections.

Clique: A clique refers to a small, exclusive group of people who associate closely and often engage in activities or conversations together. Cliques can form in various social contexts, such as schools, workplaces, or social circles.

These groups may develop a strong sense of camaraderie and shared interests, but they can also create a sense of exclusion for those who are not part of the group. In some cases, cliques may engage in behavior that perpetuates exclusivity, such as withholding information or deliberately excluding others from opportunities.

TD ASKS.

ARE ANY OF THESE “CULT LIKE?”

 

AI REPLIES
Regarding the question of a cult-like feel, it is possible for any of these dynamics (Boys Club, cronyism, or cliques) to develop a cult-like atmosphere.

This occurs when an exclusive group exhibits intense loyalty, unwavering adherence to certain beliefs or practices, and a disregard for dissenting opinions. In such cases, the group may isolate itself from external influences, discourage critical thinking, and suppress individuality.

This kind of environment can be detrimental, stifling personal growth, fostering an unhealthy power dynamic, and inhibiting transparency and accountability.

However, it’s important to note that not all instances of Boys Club, cronyism, or cliques necessarily have a cult-like feel, as the severity and characteristics can vary depending on the specific context.

(TD’S own definition prior to AI )

TAVEAU ASKS AI
Q. Within the Christian ministry, fellowship and wide community how does cronyism , Boys (or Girls) Clubs, and cliques compare to model of Christ , Paul and the first 12 apostles?
Q. What is the difference in the classic, traditional “fellowship with the saints” and those normal/human traits?

AI RESPONDS:
In comparing cronyism, Boys or Girls Clubs, and cliques within Christian ministry, fellowship, and the wider community to the example of Christ, Paul, and the first 12 apostles, there are notable differences.

Christ, Paul, and the Apostles: The example set by Jesus Christ, Paul, and the early apostles emphasized humility, servanthood, and inclusivity.

They prioritized the spread of the Gospel, the well-being of the Church, and the edification of believers. Their leadership was characterized by love, integrity, and a commitment to serving others selflessly.

Cronyism: Cronyism, which involves favoring personal relationships over qualifications, goes against the principles of equality, fairness, and impartiality taught by Christ and exemplified by the apostles.

The early apostolic leadership was focused on appointing individuals based on their spiritual gifts, character, and qualifications, rather than personal connections or preferences.

Boys or Girls Clubs: Boys or Girls Clubs, which create exclusive circles and limit opportunities based on gender, are contrary to the biblical teachings of equality and inclusivity. In the early Christian community, both men and women were valued and had significant roles in ministry.

For instance, Paul acknowledged and praised the contributions of women like Phoebe, Priscilla, and Junia, among others.

Cliques: While cliques can naturally form within social contexts, they can become problematic within Christian fellowship if they foster exclusivity, create divisions, or prioritize personal agendas over the unity of believers. The early Church, as depicted in the New Testament, emphasized the importance of unity, mutual love, and support among believers, irrespective of their backgrounds or social groups.

In contrast to cronyism, Boys or Girls Clubs, and cliques, Christian fellowship with the saints is characterized by love, mutual respect, and a shared commitment to the teachings of Christ. It encourages inclusivity, support, and edification of one another.

The early Christian community fostered a sense of unity, where members were devoted to prayer, worship, teaching, and caring for one another.

In summary, cronyism, Boys or Girls Clubs, and cliques within Christian ministry and fellowship do not align with the examples and teachings of Christ, Paul, and the early apostles. Instead, Christian traits emphasize humility, servanthood, inclusivity, and unity among believers.

ALL OF THE ABOVE MANY COMMENTS ARE “SUBMITTED” AS BODY OF CHRIST SELAH

“Only IF and WHEN any type of shoe fits, should any fellow Christian attempt to wear one”

Sincerely< TD (See Ephesians 5:21 Body of Christian Submission in depth explained in the PART 2 of this )

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“THE AI AND I” WHAT WOULD DR DAVID DU PLESSIS SAY NOW? FALSE DOCTRINES AFTER THE CHARISMATIC RENEWAL

NOTE THE ABOVE :”‘Failing to discern the Body of Christ correctly” is like Communion , it makes or breaks “peaceful unity” and safe, trustworthy “Whole” ‘community” this it is sacred, and as before the Lord”(for God is watching) Bible teaching” Paul teaches in Communion (Lord’s supper) that “some died young and were ill for failing to discern the Body Of Christ correctly. So “Beware!”

So, for every human being, as we ALL speak in one form of “tongues” or another..be they in Book of Acts form, or World Wide Well Known, Or Good Neighbor, Fellow Church Attender and/or Foreign tongue..plus even big Gossipy Unsafe Tongues  https://www.esv.org/verses/Matt.%2012%3A37/

“The offering of the Lord was despised in that day” (in the I Samuel,” Eli, Temple high priest, ministry office days) The LP “Boys Will Be Boys” Club in local, high visibility, senior ministry (yet so it is right now… plus, it’s maybe been like that since the 1980s TV media scandals). Prophet T is just pondering.

Assess beneath as a Sr Apostle “Tennis Ball Selah” (meaning that the BALL IS IN YOUR COURT as to How to Proceed from this Time Forward)

“THE AI AND I” WHAT WOULD DR DAVID DU PLESSIS SAY “NOW?”

 FALSE DOCTRINES SINCE THE CHARISMATIC RENEWAL

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FIRST PART

THIS IS BIG HISTORY IN LIGHT OF MODERN DAY VERSIONS OF “CHARISMATIC”

Q. WHO WAS DR DAVID DU PLESSIS?

https://digitalshowcase.oru.edu/duplessis/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_du_Plessis

 

Q.  ABOUT THE  CHARISMATIC RENEWAL?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charismatic_movement

 

Q. WHAT WAS, WHAT HAS BECOME OF CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC RENEWAL ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Charismatic_Renewal

CHARISMATIC RENEWAL WIDE AREA..FOND MEMORIES

Taveau D’Arcy says :
My mother, a Southern Baptist pastor’s wife, got healed at a Catholic Charismatic healing prayer group in Norfolk, VA (Living Waters) in the mid-70s. After this Catholic Charismatic renewal spread, T’s mom had X-rays of lumps in her uterus before, and they had her signed up for an operation. But they laid hands on her and prayed at this meeting (and Mom kept her faith up, ongoing reading her Bible), and the lumps disappeared. They had X-rays afterward showing that, so they canceled her operation. The doctor wrote on her chart, “It’s a miracle.” Shortly afterwards, she was invited to share about it on local radio. P.S. She lived another 42 years and died at age 90..
  • My sister and mother received “the baptism of the Holy Spirit” I believe in that Living Waters faith-filled group. But my father, who was a Louisville, KY Baptist Seminary grad, had been taught that “tongues and the Book of Acts had passed away,” so he never went for that. I, the pastor’s firstborn daughter, was a Jesus Person and had gotten the Holy Spirit baptism about 4-5 years before Mom’s healing miracle. It’s always been calm, peaceful, and helpful.
MY OWN BACK THEN, OVER ALL IMPRESSIONS:
  • From my own recollection, Dr David Du Plessis brought what is widespread “Charismatic Renewal” to the USA in the ’60s or ’70s. It also partook and started among Catholics and Episcopalians, the more traditional tried and true denominations. Yet, it was not a famous showbiz when it started out, back then. It was quiet, gentle, and peaceful.

 

  • I recall that everyone in the early days of what later evolved into the “area charismatic” was regarded by Jesus’ standards, meaning all were viewed as peers, equals. Back in the organic Charismatic Renewal, all servant leaders were without celebrity or big little you, unlike today.

 

  • There was no charismatic PC shepherding movement back then, which we need to discuss below.

 

  • There was “NO” social climbing in Christian ministry

 

  • There was “NO” one big “stellar” attractive face or known name.. .. it was so much MORE about the Lord ..focused on “Him” and gentle, empowering, renewing HIS Holy Spirit..
  • ..and also at the approarchable ministry local levels

 

  • In my version of this, on the East South in the South, false doctrines were at a low key, loving, real minimal. Purposely said, as I had been reared in sound doctrine and Bible scholars, teachers, ministers, coming down from both sides of the loving, mature, emotionally healthy family, none of whom were biased, racist, or accusative, competitive.

 

  • (To me at least) It seemed more akin to the Billy Graham winning the Lost meets Jesus People, which is my lifestyle.

 

  • If I could relate what has been going on today, in light of the modern Holy Spirit, which may, in part, resemble what I recall of the Charismatic Renewal, Jesus People, and later Vineyard days, I would say that the overall essence might be somewhat akin to a lesser Asbury Revival (Asbury is farther along due to the modern times). But it still keeps bearing similar kind, “servant leader” core, pure heart, true fruit.**Note: Yet,  I was in Virginia, just graduated out of Southern Baptist University, and caught fine glimpses of this via off-campus praise and worship (which was new) and word of mouth.

In light of word-of-mouth today and many acknowledging mature understanding about both His presence and His love and power, plus all the Christian marketing, packaging, and the elite presentation, the various trials in Christian ministry and walk, and training for 3-4 decades which has produced expertise, a well of knowledge, amazing worship, production, and deep seer skills with many “knowing” both the Holy Bible word, mixing in with faith and His Holy Spirit anointing.

However, I’m wondering what both Jesus the Messiah and Dr. David Du Plessis and many others (e.g., Billy Graham) and also myself would say with regard to the following big verse:

SO WE BGIN OUR JOURNEY…BACKWARDS .THEN UP TO THE PRESENT…

BACK THEN? WHEN A NEW VISITOR ENTERED THE CHURCH FELLOWSHIP, they would greeted warmly and given a loving, respectful “accepted in the beloved” welcoming smile. (meaning not a deep scan, turf protecting, “size them up” as if they are enemy.) NOR prophetic, pastoral, staff stereotyping, typecasting to quickly sort them out and “Pet Preferred” or “Not OUR Wanted Kind”(race,gender, age, looks, income)

BACK THEN? It was new and interesting and calmly wonderous .Nobody had “arrived ” in ministry and/or “seen it all , heard it all, done it all before” ..majorly immune and mean indifferent..for there no “caste systems” among ministry Jesus Beloved.

 

BACK THEN ? NO CRAZYMATIC SHEPHERDS..SHEEP… IN FLESHLY CLOTHING…or Ego Ambition…Into making it BIG In “I wanna become World Wide Rich and Famous”
Chiefly? there was NO bling.

Also,there were NO “in crowds” and “out crowds” in the attending major sized gifted congregations.

And NO “Boys Club” (at least in the first leader big days)

  • Gentle past worship leader days: Nobody ever sized up from afar and tried to read my mind as an “it” (subhuman), then avoid all speaking based upon type.

 

  • Nowadays, the authority of the believer (which came in later after the “Charismatic renewal” and from persons used by God on media, famous well known Book of Acts/Holy Ghost names…has morphed into the authoritarian who wants to be over and control every believer, perceived power and position, in hope of perks. It is reproduced and keeps reproducing tribal neo-Phariseeism and this apostolic training ministry. PC shepherding, the WELP, money, and massive big boss achievement, entertainment, masses of true followers and fans.More later.

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NOW THE TAVEAU ASKS CHAT GBT AI. SOME REAL STRONG DIFFERENCES IN BEFORE , DURING AND IN THE PRESENT: 

PURPOSE? This is to enlighten what is going on in much grassroots, which is now primarily “big boss” charismatic leader doctrines that have surfaced. Not ambitious and servant-first like the early days of charismatics.

TARGET….While what is mentioned beneath is American “Charismatic Renewal,” I call for “Charismatic Ministry Reform.”

in light of the “former charismatic renewal” & Jesus People.. and prior..so this is modern from 80’s onward

TD ASK ChatGPT Ai:

(LOCAL, AREA “CHURCH TALK”)
Q. CHURCH HOPPERS…In the First Church were the chief apostles concerned about “church hoppers?” Did they keep records of persons who went from “house to house” “church to church” (like many area apostles, pastors, prophets. do today)?

AI ANSWERS:

There is no explicit record in the New Testament indicating that the chief apostles in the early Church were specifically concerned about “church hoppers” or that they kept records of individuals who moved from house to house or church to church. The focus of the apostles in the New Testament was primarily on preaching the Gospel, establishing and nurturing local churches, and equipping believers for ministry.

 

While the early Church emphasized the importance of fellowship, community, and the gathering of believers, there is no indication that the apostles had a system for monitoring or keeping records of individual movements among different gatherings or communities. The early Church was characterized by a sense of unity, mutual support, and shared faith, rather than a fragmented emphasis on individual attendance.

 

It is important to note that the New Testament was written in a specific cultural and historical context, and the dynamics of the early Church may differ from contemporary practices. Today, church attendance and participation can vary due to a variety of factors, including personal preferences, geographic mobility, and theological alignment.

 

While some modern church leaders and pastors may track attendance or maintain records for practical purposes such as pastoral care or communication, it is not a biblical mandate or a specific requirement based on the practices of the early Church. Church leaders today should focus on nurturing a sense of community, discipleship, and spiritual growth within their congregations while respecting the freedom of individuals to engage with various expressions of Christian fellowship according to their personal circumstances and convictions.

 

THOUGHT: I fought the Old Timey  LAW and the LORD won!”

TD ASKS AI:

Q. What is the difference between “voluntary Christian ministry church attendance ” Being under authority” ” being under required covering authority
Q. Was there any First Church directive that EACH Believer “must” be “under” a “local pastor” …
Q. Describe how the First church would operate in authority using “chain of command” Ephesians 5:21 in a fellowship, ministry?

AI RESPONDS:

NOTE THIS: In the New Testament, there is a distinction between voluntary Christian ministry church attendance, being under authority, and being under a required covering authority.

  • VOLUNTARY Christian Ministry Church Attendance: The New Testament encourages believers to gather together for worship, teaching, fellowship, and mutual edification. Church attendance is voluntary and stems from the desire to grow in faith, worship God, and build community with other believers. It is a personal decision and commitment to be part of a local body of believers.

 

  • BEING UNDER (VOLUNTARY) AUTHORITY: The New Testament teaches that believers are to submit to spiritual leaders and authorities within the context of the local church. This submission is voluntary and based on respect for their leadership, the recognition of their role in shepherding and guiding the flock, and the desire to benefit from their spiritual wisdom and care.

 

  • BEING “UNDER” REQUIRED GOVERNING AUTHORITY: The concept of required covering authority, where believers must be under a specific individual or leader for spiritual covering, is not explicitly taught in the New Testament. While accountability and guidance from spiritual leaders are important, the ultimate authority and covering for believers come from their relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

 

  • OFFICE/AUTHORITY CHAIN OF COMMAND: Regarding the “chain of command” and Ephesians 5:21, it is important to note that Ephesians 5:21 states, “submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ.” This verse emphasizes mutual submission within the body of Christ, where believers are called to serve and submit to one another in love and humility.

TD ASKS AI:
Q. ALSO tells the differences in “freedom in Christ” vs “Being controlled or dominated”
Q. OR being caught up in a “cult?

AI REPLIES:

Regarding the differences between freedom in Christ and being controlled or dominated or caught up in a cult, the New Testament emphasizes the freedom believers have in Christ.

This freedom includes freedom from sin, freedom to love and serve others, and freedom from religious legalism. However, freedom in Christ does not imply a license to live in disobedience or disregard for biblical principles.

Being controlled or dominated in an unhealthy manner or being caught up in a cult typically involves manipulation, abuse of power, and the distortion of biblical truth.

It is important for believers to exercise discernment, study the Scriptures, and be rooted in sound biblical teaching to avoid being led astray or being part of harmful situations.

TD ASKS AI

Q. Did the First Church chief apostles demand that all believers be “SUBMITTED.” Furthermore, did they keep tabs on persons in the Christian community to record if they were “UNSUBMITTED?” OR “SUBMITTED?”
AND, Q. Is that a Bible New Testament Rule?
PS How does that apply today?

 

AI RESPONDS:

In the New Testament, there is no explicit record of the chief apostles keeping detailed tabs on individual members of the early Church or requiring submission in the sense of monitoring their daily lives or activities. The role of the apostles was primarily focused on teaching, preaching, guiding, and nurturing the spiritual growth of the believers.

While the apostles provided pastoral care and instruction, their focus was on the spiritual well-being of the believers and the overall health and growth of the Church. They exhorted the believers to live according to the teachings of Christ, to love one another, and to pursue holiness. However, they did not have a role in micromanaging the personal affairs or activities of individual believers.

TD ASKS AI

Tell the difference between the First Church “accountability” and “the modern submission” instituted teaching?

 

AI RESPONDS:
The New Testament does highlight the importance of accountability and mutual care within the Christian community. Believers were encouraged to support and exhort one another, to address issues of sin and conflict, and to promote unity and love within the body of Christ.

 

However, this was not primarily the responsibility of the apostles alone but a shared responsibility among the believers.

 

In terms of modern application, the principles of accountability, care, and mutual support within the Church continue to be important. Pastors, leaders, and fellow believers can play a role in guiding, teaching, and providing spiritual oversight within the context of their respective roles.

However, it is crucial to balance this with respect for personal freedom, privacy, and individual responsibility.

 

Different churches and denominations may have varying practices and structures for providing pastoral care and accountability.

 

It is essential for believers to find healthy and biblically grounded communities where they can receive guidance, support, and accountability while also recognizing their own personal responsibility in living out their faith.

 

Overall, the New Testament emphasizes the importance of personal relationship with God, the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and the communal responsibility of believers in fostering spiritual growth and mutual care within the body of Christ.

TD ASKS AI

“Have you ever heard of the ministers who use the term that they are “apostles in the gates of the city” (over all others)

 

AI STATES:

The term “apostles in the gates of the city” or similar variations is not found in the Bible and does not have its origins in the early Church or apostolic teachings. It is a concept that emerged in certain modern Christian circles, particularly within the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement.

 

The New Apostolic Reformation is a movement that emerged in the late 20th century, which emphasizes the restoration of apostolic governance and authority in the Church. This movement, led by various individuals and groups, including C. Peter Wagner, sought to establish a framework for contemporary apostles and prophets to exercise significant authority and leadership in the Church.

 

The specific phrase “apostles in the gates of the city” or similar expressions are not universally used within the NAR movement. However, it reflects the idea that these modern-day apostles are called to occupy positions of spiritual authority and influence, comparable to gatekeepers who have significant impact on the spiritual climate and direction of cities or regions.

 

It’s important to note that the teachings and practices of the NAR movement have been a subject of debate and controversy within the broader Christian community. Different Christian denominations and scholars may hold differing views on the validity and interpretation of contemporary apostolic roles and structures.

 

Regarding C. Peter Wagner, he was a prominent figure within the New Apostolic Reformation movement and an influential professor of Church Growth at Fuller Theological Seminary. He contributed to the development of the NAR theology and advocated for the recognition and establishment of modern apostolic ministries. However, it is essential to conduct further research and engage with a variety of perspectives to form a comprehensive understanding of the movement and its teachings.

 

ASIDE NOTE: (TD HAS SPECIFIC, UP CLOSE DIRE USA ACCUSER, ATTACK SOLEMN EXAMPLES DUE TO THIS GROUP..WHEN GOD ALLOWS, I WILL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY BUT NOT TARGET THE INDIVIDUAl PERSONS)(ON BEHALF OF THE CHRISTIAN BODY, A SAMPLE FRUIT, ON BEHALF, OF MANY SIMILAR HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OR TENS OF THOUSANDS) Luke Eye Witness

 

TD ADVICES” UP TO HERE MOST OF THIS, if not Majority of this is the main roots in WELP authority.(especially and most significantly the latter!)

 

TD ASKS ABOUT THE OVERSEER “SHEPHERDING MOVEMENT” (1970s)
Q. Reminding of the “Shepherding” (Deep South, Florida) governing ministry movent: Bob Mumford Don Bahsam and New Wine Magazine
Q. How does that tie with First Church authority and Christian freedom(legalism, to control leader women, servant minorities)

 

AI RESPONDS:

The Shepherding or Discipleship Movement, associated with Bob Mumford, Don Basham and others, emerged in the 1970s and emphasized a strong hierarchical structure of authority and submission within the context of local churches.

It sought to implement a “shepherding” model where believers were placed under the authority and guidance of specific leaders or “shepherds” for various aspects of their lives.

(TD SEES THIS A “SUBMISSION MAIN KEY” )

Ai continues: The teachings of the Shepherding Movement were controversial and received criticism due to reports of abusive practices and excessive control by some leaders.

The movement placed heavy emphasis on submission, accountability, and obedience to spiritual authority, which led to concerns about manipulation and the potential for spiritual abuse.

AI’S NOTE: It is important to note that the Shepherding Movement is not directly connected to the early Church or the principles of authority and freedom as depicted in the New Testament.

While the New Testament does emphasize the importance of spiritual oversight and accountability within the context of the local church, it does not promote the kind of top-down control and submission that was characteristic of the Shepherding Movement.

 

TD ASKS AI”

Q. IS “Shepherding movement” connected to New Apostolic Reformation “there are certain apostles over the gates of every city?”

AI RESPONDS:

As for its connection to the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement and the concept of “apostles in the gate of the city,” there may be some overlapping theological ideas or shared influences, but it is important to recognize that these are separate movements with their own distinct teachings and practices.

The NAR movement, as mentioned earlier, focuses on the restoration of apostolic governance and authority in the Church, while the Shepherding Movement had a different emphasis on hierarchical spiritual oversight.

It is important for individuals to exercise discernment, study the Scriptures, and seek wisdom from God when engaging with various teachings and movements. Evaluating them based on biblical principles, the character of Christ, and the fruit they produce is crucial in navigating these areas of theology and practice.

TD NOTES” “PERSONAL FREEDOM IN CHRIST”(Noble Berean Bible Study to sort it all out)

TAVEAU ASK AI
Q. In the 1970s shepherding movement..discuss leader males being OVER all women and any more

AI RESPONDS:

The Shepherding Movement in the 1970s did promote a hierarchical structure that included the idea of male leaders having authority over women. This teaching was influenced by a complementarian view of gender roles, which posits that men have a primary leadership role and authority in the family and the Church, while women are to submit to male leadership.

 

However, it is important to note that this view of gender roles and authority is not universally accepted among Christians and denominations. Different theological perspectives exist regarding gender roles and equality within the Church, and there are diverse interpretations of biblical passages related to this topic.

 

In recent decades, there has been significant progress in discussions surrounding gender equality and a reevaluation of traditional interpretations of Scripture. Many Christians embrace an egalitarian perspective that affirms the equal value, worth, and gifting of both men and women in all areas of life and ministry.

 

It’s important to approach discussions on gender roles and leadership in a manner that respects different viewpoints and seeks to uphold biblical principles of love, respect, and the recognition of the gifts and calling of all believers, regardless of gender.

TD ASIDE: TD IS FOR “HUMAN EQUALITY’ REGARDLESS OF TYPE, GENDER, AGE, RACE, CULTURE AND SET BELIEFS, FAITH, GO TO CHURCH OR NOT.

OUR HOME MANTRA…. EORR “EQUAL OPPORTUNITY “REAL RESPECT” FOR THE OFFICE OF EVERY HUMAN MADE IN GOD’S IMAGE (PSALM 139)

 SAY EORR!

 

TAVEAU ASKS AI:

Q Was the 1970s overseer “Shepherding” movement rigid, legalistic about “women with authority” and were leader women allowed to train, preach move in the spirit

AI ANSWERS:

Yes, the Shepherding Movement of the 1970s was known for its rigidity and legalistic approach to gender roles and authority. In many cases, the movement promoted a hierarchical structure that limited the roles and authority of women within the church.

** (NOTE) It adhered to a complementarian perspective, which held that men should hold positions of leadership and authority, while women were to be submissive and restricted in certain roles.

This approach often led to restrictions on women in leadership positions, limited opportunities for women to exercise their spiritual gifts, and an emphasis on male dominance within the movement. Women were often discouraged from pursuing roles such as teaching, preaching, or holding positions of authority within the church

(TD SAYS “under Apostle Paul common doctrine it IS THEIR CHOICE whom to serve).

YET NOTE: However, it’s important to note that not all individuals or groups within the Shepherding Movement had the same exact beliefs or practices.

While the movement as a whole tended to promote a more restrictive view of women in leadership, there may have been variations in how these beliefs were applied at the local level.

It’s also worth noting that since the 1970s, there has been significant progress in the understanding and affirmation of women’s gifts and leadership within Christian circles. Many churches and denominations now embrace egalitarian views, which affirm the equal value, worth, and gifting of both men and women and encourage women to serve in leadership roles, including teaching, preaching, and exercising their spiritual gifts.

As with any theological perspective, it’s important to approach the topic with discernment, study the Scriptures, and engage in respectful dialogue, recognizing the diversity of beliefs and interpretations on this matter within the broader Christian community.

TD ADDS THIS CHRISTIAN BODY PS

SO THIS IS WHAT I NOW “NAME AND TRAIN “…FOR APOSTLES …”THE WELP” STUDIES 

Note: Discovering all of this (slowly), this was probably the roughest time period of serving the Lord Jesus Christ in my life.

The real reason? Over the many years of being sent to study the diverse USA body of Christ in ministry leadership, I watched as society, life, and the ministry became more hardened, commercial, and ambitious. Many other movements also contributed to all of this, and many ministers, including myself, did not grow up around this but thought (for a while) that this was the thing to do. But all of it wasn’t. Now we are paying a steep price.

Toss the added white witchcraft, advertising, celebrity hype, entertainment, and shallow representations of Christ and ministry. What it means to “follow Him” and be “saved” has also morphed and been lost. This is noted primarily by the lost holy fear of the Lord in most of the Church and in ministry.


My Specific Topic is “Seers Gone Wild” using invisible white witchcraft/occult( aggressive,defiling, mind probing,never speaking but rumoring about what the “inner saw” (by deep scan reading you, me, many us) From FAR AWAY!

 

God is calling us OUT OF ALL OF THIS FALSENESS and ministry SUBMISSION (Dubbed Neo Phariseeism)  ACCUSATION..never ceasing,” EVIL EYE demonic “witchwatching” (FAR AWAY)  “mind reading and inner deep scanning’ for it dehumanizes, label, vilifies, generates never ending big Gossip.

 

Also it reviles, publically jumps,  murders many persons reputations, character assassinates and undermines..for it is a JUDAS(money), PYTHON and LEVITHAN (Job 41) major TV CELEBRITY WANNABE non contrite Big Boss Ambition..It respects “pet persons only” and is now only for the “gifted and grandiose elite”

PLUS It ignores “real everyday walk in people” And that is MY TURF.

Thus from the 1980’s onward, I learned about, was attacked by,and Bible Studied, yet  SURVIVED THE NEO PHARISEES.(these who love to crack their whips (demonic energy to control) even at newbies and angels very unaware).

But I do not boast, I must not….as it has been by the skin of my teeth AND over time..and much doing research, much Good Bible Study.. (Great Parents who were living epistles… and by God’s MERCY!)


WITHSTANDING MINSITRY HAS TO STOP!

LET US EACH SUMMON OUR COURAGE and DO WHAT IS RIGHT..no what is RIGHT FOR OURSELF, FOR ME and FOR YOU..but for the CHRIST and the LOST..

For all of these have been making to HARD TO WANT TO A CHARISMATIC, TONGUE TALKING, MOSTLY GREAT WORSHIP.. CHURCH .


In fact, Paul commands that (in these Last Days” even the Churches would allow this perilious sordid fruit..And now were are HERE in that long foretold period of time

So along with the admonishing to PAULINE Hebrews 10;25 “do not forsake the fellowshipping with the saints as so have” ..WE MUST provide due teaching due to these “perilous leadeship days” and warn EVEN GOD’S PEOPLE to “turn away from” the following ministry dyfunctional unsure “FRUIT”  

Which is listed by Paul himself: (BOTH OF THESE MAKE GREAT TEACHING LISTS)

2 Timothy 3:1-5: (LONG LIST..MUST BE NOW ADDRESSED)  “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”

1 Timothy 6:5: “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

A lot more later!

BUT before closing Dr T wants to submit her own personal favorite CHARACTER and RELATIONSHIP FRUIT, NON BIASED BIBLE VERSION..also for pastoral, apostolic ministry, lay, leader, parental, youth training

ABIDING JAMES 3:17 PURE FRUIT (even under big pressure …by enlisting  w God’s help)

James 3:17 “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”

 

SUBMITTED AS A BODY OF CHRIST (“LESS IS MORE”) SOLEMN SELAH, FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

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“THE AI AND I” WE NEED CLEAR SEER THEOLOGY (PART 3) DISTINGUISHING FRUITS

Luke 17:20-21 (KJV): “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

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SUBTITLE “TOO SQUARE TO BE HIP”

For the ministry Christian:

First, we need to recap what is stated in John 16:13: “Holy Spirit of Truth” comes from asking Christ into one’s heart as one’s own personal Lord and Savior. There are many different spiritual realms and diverse religious false approaches that may not acknowledge this main eternal life-saving big difference.

The key words for ensuring that we are “listening” and “discerning” God’s true eternal Spirit are found in “when” He, the Spirit of Truth, has come. He will come as a free, invisible, supernatural life BIG DEPOSIT as soon as the person is “saved,” “born again,” or acknowledges the Christ.

Otherwise, it’s a spirit but not “the” holy, life-giving true Spirit.

Please make sure to emphasize this as a teaching point.

FOLLOWING THIS:

The book of Acts is deeply embedded in this free gift of “the Spirit of Truth” – the Holy Spirit. However, it has to be taught, made understandable, and clear due to all the controversy surrounding it today, influenced by media, training, and false religions. Many people mix up the idea of “Jesus as One of Many Ways to get to God and to hear from God.” Most Christians lack understanding as their churches and ideas are not deep. The 5-fold ministers, pastors, trainers, and priests either do not address it, have never been taught themselves, or have doubts, fear, confusion.

So, I am intentionally writing this NOT dogmatically and with NO BIAS.. but presented as a Selah, “to pause and consider,” and then seek the Most High God on how to deal with this big topic.

MY SHELL OF AN OUTLINE ABOUT Book of Acts, “Holy Spirit,” “Truth Spirit” related:

LEADER STEPS
1. WE WANT TO FIRST
Accept Jesus Christ as a personal Savior (Train about that well). Big Example” I am the Way,  the Truth and the Life, noone come to the Father except by Me” See Apostle Paul Ephesians 4 “Common doctrine” “ONE LORD (Faith in Jesus) one faith, one baptism, one God the Father of us all”

 2. THE PURPOSE: Christ gives the new believer a deposit of His great life-giving presence,”I have come to  give you life and life more abundantly” (which includes His amazing heart peace, and potentially the powerful Dunamis Holy Spirit (the paraclete, “comforter,” the God is with us servant Emmanuel, referred to as Christ, and more).

3. SURROUNDING THE BOOK OF ACTS (JOHN 16:13 Spirit of Truth) which as thus “COME”

  • This deposit is invisible, needs to be trained, mentored, and nurtured to be understood, and can manifest as mighty powers, glossolalia (praying in an unknown prayer language), and other Holy Spirit manifestations – but this depends on the teachings and beliefs of the instructors.

 

  • TO FULL OUT ACTS LEADERS:  Note: I personally believe in it “all” as I move in the big gifts, yet I empathize that “NOT EVERYONE GOES THERE..OR SHOULD ” nor OUGHT ANY BE FORCED TO BY DOGMATIC PRESSURE…as I recognize that MANY have been put off by the generation around us.

 

  • MY OWN ADVICE: A BIG KEY POINT IN TRAINING…It is important to present the book of Acts with amazing potential but in a low-key manner. People need to ask questions. (again, using no bias)

This serves as a general introduction.

  1. The mighty Book of Acts is imbued with grace-given, mysterious, and potentially playful, joyful supernatural power. However, this power is first to be trained through:
  • Fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) – (See full description in Part 2 of this series)
  • Gifts of the Spirit – (See Part 2 for a lengthy description of this)
  • The inward witness of God’s holy, powerful, guiding 24/7/365 calm spirit
  • Proverbs 20:27 (KJV) states, “The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly.”
  • Note that the spirit of man carries the way deep inside “candle” which represents the inward witness of God’s calm, peaceful, witnessing gentle spirit – the Spirit of Truth. It’s important to recognize that this is a subjective and growing realm. To know it’s truly God’s Holy Spirit of Truth, it must pass these two fruit tests:
  1. James 3:17 – “The wisdom from above is pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruits (Galatians 5:22-23 fruits of the spirit), without partiality,(no bias, no class systems) and without hypocrisy.”
  2. 2 Timothy 1:7 – “God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power, love, and a sound mind.” There should be no spirit of fear, worry, anxiety, oppression, depression, or control associated with it.

 

SEMANTICS BETWEEN MINISTRY GROUPS APPEAR TO DIFFER. I will refer to the CHRISTIAN BOOK OF ACTS TERMS AS I SEE FIT (which technically I may even break it down to this (Cross Body Unity In House Ministry Meaning)

INFILLING(of the Holy Spirit) 1st: accept Jesus, Then: ask for more power, INFILLING with the BOOK OF ACTS HOLY SPIRIT

REQUEST “BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT”.meaning:  seeking even more..tongues

BUT I AM NOT TO ETCHED IN SPIRITUAL CONCRETE ON THIS..

HOWEVER, for time saving pure purposes: let me just make it simple:

The infilling with the Holy Spirit, also known as “receiving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit” with evidence of speaking in tongues, is another aspect to consider. However, for those who are timid, confused, or afraid, it is a valid choice to encourage them to read about the seven spirits of the mighty God named in Isaiah 11:2. These spirits were all in Christ Jesus and are a form of what is seen in the Book of Acts, even without tongues or big manifestations. See the passage directly below for reference.

My PS: Hebrews 1:9 – Mature prophet, non-religious Jesus, had imbued joy. He hated sin but not the sinner and loved what was righteous without being self-righteous or holier-than-thou, finding fault or accusing.

  • THE KINGDOM OF GOD:

TD STATES: It must be regarded as deep inside the truly born-again Christ. Therefore, it must be discussed, trained, and learned about: what it is, how to handle it, and how to find comfort and joy in it despite outward earthly circumstances.

Matthew 6:33 (KJV): “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you.”

TD SUBMITS: What is the “Kingdom of God”?

MAIN POINT: Romans 14:17 (KJV): “For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.”

As It’s “a knowing” HOW to tap into God’s invisible, ever-present Holy Spirit Eternal Kingdom, whether in feast or famine, with friends and happy family, or being fully alone, and much more!

Luke 17:20-21 (KJV): “And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

(NOT TURF PROTECTING) John 18:36 (KJV): “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”

Matthew 6:10 (KJV): “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.”

GOD’S & ETERNAL EMPOWERING, ILLUMINATING, DIRECTING AND WISE SPIRITS (the Spirit of Truth!)

  • Isaiah 11:2 in the King James Version (KJV) provides a list of the sevenfold manifestation of the Spirit of God.
  • It says:”And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.”According to this verse, the seven manifestations of the Spirit of God are:
    1. The Spirit of the Lord (which say is “His spirit of Truth” (John 16:13)
    2. The Spirit of wisdom
    3. The Spirit of understanding
    4. The Spirit of counsel
    5. The Spirit of might
    6. The Spirit of knowledge
    7. The Spirit of the fear of the Lord

(Due length of this article, I will just broach the Hot Topic…but continue in following articles0

TRUE AND FALSE DOCTRINES

TD’S MINISTRY VIEWS:

Q. WHAT ARE  DOCTRINES?

TD SUBMITS:

An attempt to define the word DOCTRINES  “our spiritual doctrines” are our “own beliefs” which may be likened to a  group, cluster of thoughts which resemble an ‘inside coral reef” of opinion (be it hard or soft, sure or somewhat clueless) Yet this invisible “coral reef”   arises during times of decision making, choosing people and ideas and problem solves.

“MY, YOUR, OUR, THEIR’ doctrines be regarded as OUR /THEIR Bible or moral ,are a type , “value system” which comes into play in normal every real life but also come out under pressure . Personal doctrines, many inner views…are  your “own personal truth..your  “moral fiber’ your “infrastructure” for your life, the others ,your own self , and many relationships, doing business, and alone with God, in ministry

TD’s BIG CONCEPT:

JESUS WAS THE ONLY ONE EVER WITH 100% TRUE CORE DOCTRINES

TD ASIDE to the many flame throwers: this means that NONE OF US is perfect, so we each must grant grace as we each realize we deserve EVEN if we do not get to make a fortune reviling and name and face showing using monetized many video  (MEANING…up to a point…but this a RATIONAL method of approaching FALSE and TRUE)

This means that every one of us, since the past and presently, falls into one of the following categories:

  1. THE TRUTH ..Mostly good, pure, “true” Bible core doctrine.(mostly accurately representing “God’s whole true Counsel” (meaning also your spirit watches the FRUIT which is reproduced on the team, the congregation and the ministry as similar to that of abiding James 3:17 “pure, peaceable , easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruit, without partiality and without hypocrisy ” and NOT resembling “From Such Turn Away” commanded by Paul (2 Timothy 3:1-5, I Timothy 6:5)

    2. THE PARTIAL TRUTH: here and there a bit or more than a bit Shakey, partial truth           intermingled with appearing false doctrine.

3. UNSAFE, DANGEROUS: Dangerous, false, untrue poor doctrine that can:

  1. a) Eternally damn someone (along with their children, marriage, and quality of life) if they believe it.
  2. b) Rob,kill and destroy,maim, cripple (in part or in whole/meaning deep inside, or outside) a person (along with their children, marriage), deeply injure them, mind control or use them as part of a cult, abuse them, and cause damage to their mind, will, emotions, and overall quality of life. This damage can persist for many years after.

NOTE: TD realizes this firsthand, as she was NOT raised around false doctrine, NOR immature ministry, and especially,significatnlly NOT EVER  amidst “CHRISTIAN” OR NON CHRISTIAN  “well-meaning witchcraft” and occult practices that are prevalent today. 

This latter has been ‘often”  observed in the last 22 years of USA Certain Kinds of Christian Minsitry…which bear the fruits of success-driven, money-oriented ministries that may seem “nice” but draw attention to these dangers. Additionally, the two friendly fellowships mentioned by Apostle Paul (2 Timothy 3:1-5, 1 Timothy 6:5) contribute to the need for this type of series.

FOR OUR OWN CHOICE BELIEVERS:

WHEN IN DOUBT: I submit that each  mature Believer, at various times in their life, should  go to God and say to Him” “Q. I whom I am listening to? Following? Believing? Allowing to pray for me, to govern with Bible authority “OVER ” ME..and donating to ,serving, supporing TRUE OR NOT

ALSO… in general (“Lord, if now or every down the road when I am not thinking about that, WILL YOU PLEASE warn  me if I am listening to, heeding, following or attending THE WRONG APOSTLE, TEACHER,PASTOR, MEDIA FACE, CELL OR FELLOWSHIP” ).

Q. UNDERSTANDING THAT ONLY CHRIST HAD 100% PURE TEACHING DOCTRINES ..HOW MUCH % OF FALSE SHOULD I TOLERATE  IN CHRISTIAN GROUP, PASTOR, TEACHER, WISE PROPHET BEFORE I GET FULLY OUT?

A. NOTE: I directly went to the Lord about this

  1. PREMISE: KNOWING THAT APOSTLE PAUL praised the Berean Jews for picking apart HIS DOCTRINES and comparing them them with Scipture to see if they aligned (He called them NOBLE BEREANS”) for Paul realized his own humanity
    (NOTE This is the exact reason for this minister to submit SELAHS  NOT DOGMA…which are left open for private each persons Bible evalution by  reader)
  2. Paul also commanded ‘“follow me only “IF” (when ,as)  I follow Christ” 
  3. Apostle Paul commanded ‘know me, know  my doctrine , know my lifestyle
  4. Paul commanded us each to “work out our own salvation with fear and trembling” (TD Notes: the humble pure Apostle Pauls’ use  of the Eternal Perspective choice of words “with “fear and trembling” implies that it is DIRELY, often of ETERNAL importance (please note that)
  5. LAST: while the apostle Paul commanded Hebrew 10:25 “do not forsake fellowshipping with the saints’ He also warned us in the Last Days to “TURN AWAY FROM ” the following groups with toxic, unsafe, demeaning and dysfunctional fruit: 2 Timothy 3:1-5, I Timothy 6:5

 

THE APOSTOLIC CLEAR BOTTOM LINE IS 
WHERE A PERSON ATTENDS, WHOM THEY SIT UNDER, WHOM THEY JOIN ..OR FEEL LED TO NOT..OR WHOM THEY ALLOW TO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THEM IN CHRISTIAN MINISTRY..MUST BE LEFT EACH AND EVERY BELIEVER PERSON TO DESCIDE FOR THEMSELVES.

TD ADVICES: This first must be trained from the pulpit, top leaders…(means? no more control) The CHOICE is apostolic FREEDOM and must be left between them and God.

THE CHRISTIANS CONSCIENCE: PERTAINING TO ” HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE”  OF FALSE DOCTRINE SHOULD I SIT UNDER?**
(understanding that JESUS was the only one with 100 % PURE..(again, GOOD TEACHING MUST ACCOMPANY THIS )

I liken it to Christian minsiters ,leaders, lay who go to MOVIES or watch DVDS, Netflix, Prime, etc with different Movie Ratings. as nowadays is it OFF THE CHARTS..

I know for a fact that I have heard some Christian pastors mention the various numbers of the watch. And it truly bothers me, for I am a very senstive spirit who has to be very careful about WHAT I let into my “eye gate” “”ear gate” personally as Before the Lord.


SO I barely EVER watch very movies or Netflix (other than food, house flipping kinds of shows) WHY? The “eye gate” real issues” and the “ear gate (using God’s Name in vain and the F word) 

It bothers me...(MEANING “ME” “MY OWN PERSONAL SPIRIT, HEART, CONSCIENCE” ) But that is ME and I am being fully “ME” but want YOU to hear GOD for YOUR SELF.

YET THIS IS MY MAIN PRINCIPLE

FYI..as for ME…FRANKLY, I hate going “INTO” the movie theaters, as well

Q. WHY?  2 Fold: 1) for I realize what goes on between those many walls  and I hate to fund it. 2. Frankly…what really settled it for me was back in the early 2000’s I would go into an P3 13 movie and it would should all of those evil dark R RATED trailers. It really bothered me.(dark and many oppressive and I have a light spirit which I choose to prefer to maintain, and that can mean “NEED TO GUARD BY WARDING OFF DEMONIC”

AS A PURE LIVING CHRIST FOLLOWER I try to keep in mind that I LIVE MY LIFE BEFORE THE EYES OF THE HOLY GOD and ONLY HIS EYES AND VOICE “COUNTS”

I enjoy being HAPPY, JOYFUL and VERY HUMOROUS and not DEPRESSED, OPPRESSED or ANXIOUS..


FOR…BECAUSE.
.I DO NOT WANT TO OPEN MY SOUL (mind, will, emotions) to darkness which would clog it up and bring me needlessly earthbound, perhaps WAY DOWN.

 

REASON…as I love the Lord the Lord and realize His Presence, I try not to grieve His ever accompanying Spirit which also tends to I trouble my OWN spirit due to MY OWN CONSCIENCE.  (which I say this to share HOW I GENERALLY OPERATE within MY OWN BOUNDS of personal conscience,  (and this MEANS that I try to avoid watching, listening  to the abject violence, horror,  gore, overt sex, much cursing, perversion, dystopian American portrayals, taking God’s name in vain, even more)

TO KEEP THIS REAL JOY TD PREFERS TO BE  “TOO SQUARE TO BE HIP”**

**And I am more the JOYFUL and kiddo like HAPPY  for it!

(I recommmend Christ in Hebrews 1:9 for a prescription)


HOWEVER  ……NOPE…NO…
…THIS SISTER T IS  NOT YOUR BOSS TO TELL YOU HOW YOU MUST ACT. As I respect  and value YOU enough to Give YOU PERMISSION to HEAR FROM GOD ABOUT ANY AND ALL OF THIS For YOURESELF  (SO if you ever want to invite me out..(haha) you no KNOW that it (probably) won’t be to a movie…say HAHA again!)

 

BUT on the other hand I believe virgous workout (includes hard rock dancing) in secular  (GOD SENT) gyms which I preview “is it FROM THE LORD OR NOT ” first. Also I enjoy dancing and moving  before the Lord (2 extremely  different meanings to dance there)

 

BUT YOU MAY NOT..and that is  UP TO YOU…and only for YOU before God to decide. Also I can handle it if YOU do not believe exactly the SAME AS ME..

And it ought to go both COMMUNITY ..OTHER CENTRIC “REAL “RESPECT “WAYS”

THIS GOES FOR CERTAIN THEOLOGY, TOO. For  GOD can deeply tell YOU and ME about (many) different types of things.

And in closing this Part 3, I officially WANT YOU to grow to hear  GOD DIRECTLY amongst all of the many voices (Paul mentions I Corinthians 14:10c “There are many voices in the world and each one has significance)


THUS apostle T, Cross Body Unity leader, founder, a Galatians 1:1-2 servant office is simply submitting all of this as a wise (non Big Boss) SELAH..

Also I am just sharing how I  myself “believe”.

WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, I now pronounce to YOU ….the wise leader reader that 

THE TENNIS BALL SELAH… OF DECISION MAKING….  IS NOW LOBBED INTO   YOUR COURT!

 

TO SUPPORT: Please ongoing PRAY

TO GIVE: [wpedon id=”1581″] also  See GIVE LINK at the top of this home page!

God’s PEACE and JOY and VERY MANY BLESSINGS!

 

MORE TO COME..

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“THE AI AND I” WE NEED CLEAR SEER THEOLOGY PART 2

GOD’S FREE GIFTS…  FROM THE “SPIRIT OF TRUTH”

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TD ASKS CHAT GPT AI THE FOLLOWING (realizing this is overview and probably bland for many, but our readers are all Bible levels of leaders.

Q. What is a prophet? Furthermore: What is a Christian prophet? 

Also Q. What is the difference in the Old Testament true Prophet and the New Testament true prophet? Q. How did the Messiah Jesus in Isaiah 11:-2-3 fulfill the moral character, display of a true First Church New Testament ‘seer” prophet?               

ALSO Q. How does Hebrews 1:1-2 come into play in this discussion 

AI REPLIES: 
A prophet is an individual who is believed to have a special connection with the divine and is chosen by God to deliver messages or revelations on His behalf. In general, prophets are considered spiritual guides and spokespersons for God, communicating His will and sharing insights into the future or matters of spiritual importance.

In the context of Christianity, a Christian prophet is someone who receives divine messages, visions, or insights through the Holy Spirit and shares them with the Christian community.

They serve as spiritual leaders and provide guidance, encouragement, correction, and edification to believers. Christian prophets are seen as continuing the prophetic tradition established in the Old Testament.

The primary difference between Old Testament prophets and New Testament prophets lies in the coming of Jesus Christ. In the Old Testament, prophets foretold the coming of the Messiah and conveyed God’s messages to the people. They often spoke about the future and the promise of a Savior.

 

However, with the arrival of Jesus in the New Testament, the role of the prophet shifted. Jesus became the fulfillment of the prophecies and the ultimate revelation of God to humanity. The New Testament prophets primarily focused on proclaiming the message of salvation through Jesus Christ and building up the early Christian communities.

Isaiah 11:2-3 describes the moral character and the qualities that would be present in the coming Messiah, who is Jesus. It states:

“And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears.”

This passage highlights the attributes that Jesus possessed as the Messiah. It speaks of His wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, and reverence for God. These qualities align with the characteristics of a true prophet.

Regarding Hebrews 1:1-2, it states:

“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”

Hebrews emphasizes that God spoke to the people of the Old Testament through the prophets but, in the last days, He has spoken to us through His Son, Jesus Christ. This passage highlights the superiority of Jesus as the ultimate revelation of God. While the prophets in the Old Testament conveyed God’s messages, Jesus is the final and complete expression of God’s will and purpose.

In summary, the role of a prophet in Christianity involves receiving divine messages through the Holy Spirit and sharing them with the community.

The distinction between Old Testament prophets and New Testament prophets lies in the fulfillment of the prophecies through Jesus Christ. Jesus displayed the moral character of a true prophet, and Hebrews 1:1-2 emphasizes the superiority of Jesus as the ultimate revelation of God.

TAVEAU ASKS  AI
Q.How does John 16:13 fit in to both Old Testament true prophets and Christ and the First Church, modern Christian Ephesians 4 “office of the Prophet?”
AI REPLIES

John 16:13, as recorded in the King James Version, states:

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

This verse is part of Jesus’ teachings to His disciples before His crucifixion. In this passage, Jesus is referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit, who would guide the disciples and future believers into all truth. The role of the Holy Spirit in guiding believers into truth is significant for understanding the connection between Old Testament prophets, Jesus, and the New Testament concept of the prophetic office.

In the Old Testament, the prophets were chosen and anointed by God to speak His words and reveal His will to the people. They relied on the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to deliver their messages. However, their experiences with the Holy Spirit were often temporary and specific to the messages they were conveying.

In contrast, Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit would permanently indwell believers after His departure. The Holy Spirit’s role would be to guide them into all truth, to speak what He hears from God, and to reveal things to come. This means that the Holy Spirit’s guidance is not limited to specific individuals like the Old Testament prophets but is available to all believers who have received the Holy Spirit.

In the context of the New Testament Church, the office of the prophet, as mentioned in Ephesians 4:11-13, is one of the five-fold ministry gifts given by Christ to the Church. The office of the prophet refers to individuals who have been called and anointed by God to function as prophetic voices within the Church. They receive revelations, insights, and messages from the Holy Spirit and share them with the community to edify, encourage, and exhort believers.

John 16:13, in this regard, emphasizes the ongoing role of the Holy Spirit in guiding believers into all truth, including those called to the prophetic office. The Holy Spirit continues to reveal things to come, inspire prophetic utterances, and provide spiritual insight to those who are receptive to His leading.

Therefore, John 16:13 highlights the abiding presence and work of the Holy Spirit, who empowers both individual believers and those functioning in the prophetic office to receive and communicate divine messages in alignment with the truth revealed through Jesus Christ.

 

TAVEAU ASKS AI: (She fills in some Gaps in her own teaching following)

Q. What is the Spirit of Truth in John 16:13 and where does it come from?
THE AI ANSWERS

In John 16:13, Jesus refers to the “Spirit of truth.” The Spirit of truth is the Holy Spirit, who is the third person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and is sent by Jesus to dwell within believers.

In the context of John 16, Jesus is preparing His disciples for His departure and the coming of the Holy Spirit. He assures them that when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide them into all truth. The Holy Spirit’s role is to reveal and illuminate the truth of God to believers, convicting them of sin, guiding them in understanding God’s will, and empowering them to live according to His teachings.

The Spirit of truth originates from God the Father. In John 15:26, Jesus says, “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.” The Holy Spirit is sent by Jesus from the Father, and He testifies of Jesus and leads believers into the truth of who Jesus is and what He has accomplished.

The Spirit of truth is the source of divine revelation, guidance, and understanding for believers. Through the Holy Spirit, God communicates His truth and helps believers comprehend and apply it in their lives. The Spirit of truth works in believers’ hearts, transforming them and conforming them to the image of Christ.

In summary, the Spirit of truth in John 16:13 refers to the Holy Spirit, who proceeds from the Father and is sent by Jesus. The Holy Spirit is the source of divine revelation and guidance, leading believers into all truth and testifying of Jesus Christ. He is the divine presence within believers, empowering them to live according to God’s will and enabling them to understand and apply His truth.

TD USES HER OWN TEACHING TO FORM A CONCISE OVERVIEW  OF “HOW” THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH COMES (HOLY SPIRIT) 

SUBMITTED AS  MY OPINION

BASIC POINT: either The Spirit of Truth actually HAS COME or else it HAS NOT

John 16:13 states that “when” the “Spirit of Truth comes,” it implies that there is an “if” and “when” aspect to the authentic arrival of the Spirit. This prophetic ministry point is crucial for the sake of the many seekers, potential seers, and those who are lost in today’s world.

The main focus here is to clarify and address Christian prophecy and similar spiritual faiths such as New Age, psychic abilities, clairvoyance, and more. It brings to light the question of the Bible’s validity and serves as a point of discussion and training.

It is vital to consider this point and its implications because on the final day, when it will be too late to make any changes, whatever the eternal God Almighty determines as His everlasting truth will hold significance. No one wants to be forever lost, so understanding and seeking the truth is of utmost importance.


TD ASKS EACH READER…THEN  ANSWERS (HER WORDS)
Q.  (in JOHN 16:13) “HOW DOES THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH ULTIMATELY COME?

 

SEER THEOLOGY CLEAR POINT“it’s (HE, HOLY SPIRIT) given free, undeserved, unearned, cannot be achieved, won or bought..as it’s FREE due to GOD’S GRACE via Jesus suffering and death on the rugged cruel cross but also His VICTORY over sin and death in RESURRECTION. Book of Acts was given also ‘freely, by miracles, supernatural similar (free, undeserved GIANT real grace)

 

A. After Jesus came in the New Testament, as believers accepted Him and became “born again” by acknowledging Him as their Savior, the “Spirit of Truth” came upon them according to the classic verse John 16:13. This Spirit of Truth came as a free, ongoing supernatural and invisible deposit into each and every true believer. It is important to note that this happened regardless of their level of knowledge, whether they were new, shallow, or had never been taught about it. God’s Holy Spirit of Truth was still given and abided within them..

ADMITTING:

Book of Acts, abiding Holy Spirit is a giant and controversial hot subject. I do not claim to know it all. I am not an expert, but I do know this topic. SO I present it as a submitted SELAH with James 3:17 ALL RESPECT not as limiting, biased or hardcore autocratic Big Shot Dogma.


NEXT: THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT, GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT**

**.which are also   FREE and by grace GIVEN also similarly downloaded inside each person who acknowledges and accept Christ as the Lord and Savior.


PAUL LISTS the Galatians 5:22-23 “free’ fruits of the Spirit which become evidence in each true believers life, over time..“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

TD ASKS AI to discuss the “fruits of the spirit”

AI SAYS
The fruits of the Spirit listed in Galatians 5:22-23, as described by St. Paul, are connected to the work of the Holy Spirit, including the Spirit of truth mentioned in John 16:13 and the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts.

Galatians 5:22-23 in the King James Version states:

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

These verses outline the qualities or attributes that should be evident in the lives of believers who are guided and empowered by the Holy Spirit. Each of these qualities reflects the character and nature of God, and they are produced in the lives of believers through the work of the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit of truth, mentioned in John 16:13, guides believers into all truth and testifies of Jesus Christ. The fruits of the Spirit listed in Galatians 5:22-23 align with the nature of the Spirit of truth. For example:

  1. Love: The Spirit of truth enables believers to love one another as Christ loved them (John 13:34-35). Love is a foundational aspect of the Holy Spirit’s work and is reflected in the fruit of the Spirit.
  2. Joy: The Holy Spirit brings joy and gladness to believers, even in difficult circumstances (Acts 13:52). The fruit of the Spirit includes joy as an expression of the Holy Spirit’s presence in the believer’s life.
  3. Peace: The Holy Spirit produces a sense of peace and harmony in the lives of believers (Romans 14:17). Peace is also one of the fruits of the Spirit mentioned by Paul.
  4. Longsuffering (patience): The Holy Spirit helps believers to be patient and endure hardships (Romans 15:5). This quality is reflected in the fruit of the Spirit.
  5. Gentleness: The Holy Spirit operates with gentleness and kindness (2 Timothy 2:24). Gentleness is a characteristic of the Holy Spirit, and it is included in the fruit of the Spirit.
  6. Goodness: The Holy Spirit produces goodness and righteousness in the lives of believers (Romans 15:14). Goodness is a fruit of the Spirit.
  7. Faith: The Holy Spirit enables believers to have faith and trust in God (1 Corinthians 12:9). Faith is included in the fruit of the Spirit.
  8. Meekness: The Holy Spirit works in believers’ lives, producing humility and meekness (Colossians 3:12). Meekness is a fruit of the Spirit.
  9. Temperance (self-control): The Holy Spirit helps believers exercise self-control in their thoughts, words, and actions (1 Corinthians 9:25). Self-control is a fruit of the Spirit**

** ASIDE: TD calls this “personal self government the ROOT OF ALL AUTHORITY in house, home, minsitry, church, and society (hence we need more of this rather than OUTER BIG BOSS OVERSEER TO DOMINATE)

 

Ai Resumes: The fruits of the Spirit listed in Galatians 5:22-23 are evidence of the Holy Spirit’s transformative work in the lives of believers. They manifest in individuals who are filled with and guided by the Holy Spirit, including the Spirit of truth. The book of Acts records numerous instances where the Holy Spirit’s transforming and directing presence is evident in the lives of the early believers, empowering them to live in alignment with these fruits.

 

In summary, the fruits of the Spirit listed in Galatians 5:22-23 pertain to the Spirit of truth mentioned in John 16:13 and the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit in the book of Acts. These fruits are the result of the Holy Spirit’s work in the lives of believers, transforming and empowering them to live according to God’s will.

TD ASKS AI to name the “gifts of spirit”

(ties in with John 16:13 “after the Spirit of truth has COME these can  may also be brought about ( revealed, stirred up ,and trained)..over time

AI RESPONDS
The gifts of the Spirit, as described in the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible, are mentioned in several passages, primarily in 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12. Here is a list of the gifts of the Spirit as mentioned in the KJV:

TD ASIDE…SEER NOTE: FOR THE LONG HAUL: I liken 2 Kings 6:12 “Elisha hearing what the king said in his chambers to the following “DROPPED INTO ELISHA’S SPIRIT by GRACE” meaning basically (not divined, conjured or demonic dark scanned, avoidant witchwatched, biased cult watched.. or mind probed, energy, vibe  read, not psychic probed NOR evil voyeur..(asTHOSE more resemble the demonic “spooky spiritual”  used in the First Colonies (amazingly WELP!) Anti women Salem Massachusetss, unjust accuser WITCH TRIALS (prophet/seers gone wild GOOGLE “Spectral Evidence”).(more later..not in this Part 2) Means that: Prophetic Elisha was sitting there or walking along one, the miraculous ‘spirit of TRUTH and GRACE suddenly “dropped the kings words into Elisha’s submitted spirit”” (akin to a word of wisdom, word of knowledge) MY SELAH..more later another chapter

  1. Word of Wisdom
  2. Word of Knowledge
  3. Faith
  4. Gifts of Healing
  5. Working of Miracles
  6. Prophecy
  7. Discerning of Spirits
  8. Diverse kinds of Tongues
  9. Interpretation of Tongues
  10. Helps
  11. Governments (or Administrations)
  12. Apostle
  13. Prophet
  14. Teacher
  15. Miracles
  16. Kinds of Healings
  17. Helps
  18. Administrations
  19. Tongues

These gifts are given by the Holy Spirit to believers for the edification of the Church and the advancement of God’s kingdom. They serve different purposes and are meant to function within the body of Christ, complementing and working together for the common good.

NOTE PLEASE: It is important to note that the list of gifts mentioned in the Bible is not exhaustive, and there may be other spiritual gifts not explicitly mentioned. Additionally, different interpretations and understandings exist regarding the exact nature and operation of these gifts within the Church.

INTERESTING TIE IN: 

HOW BEING BLESSED WITH THE FREE DEPOSIT OF GOD’S JOHN 16:13 “SPIRIT OF TRUTH” CAN ONGOING GIVE WISDOM AND REVELATION…THROUGH MUCH PRAYERS, SEEKING, BELIEVING AND ONGOING GRACE AND TRAINING 

EPHESIANS 1: 17 APOSTLE PAUL AND PRAYER..

TD ASK Ai:
Q. What is the spirit of wisdom and revelation in our knowledge of Him Eph 1:17 KJV Apostle Paul
Ai ANSWERS

In Ephesians 1:17, the Apostle Paul prays for believers, asking that God would grant them the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him. Here is the verse in the King James Version:

“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.”

The “spirit of wisdom and revelation” refers to the work of the Holy Spirit in enlightening believers and granting them a deep understanding of God and His ways. Here’s a breakdown of the key elements:

  1. Spirit: This refers to the Holy Spirit, who is the source of wisdom and revelation. The Holy Spirit dwells within believers and works in their hearts and minds to bring understanding and insight.
  2. Wisdom: Wisdom is the ability to discern and apply knowledge in a way that aligns with God’s truth and purposes. It involves having a deep understanding of God’s ways, His character, and His will.
  3. Revelation: Revelation refers to the unveiling or uncovering of truth that is not accessible through human understanding alone. It is divine insight and knowledge that comes directly from God. The Holy Spirit reveals spiritual truths and deepens believers’ understanding of God’s plans and purposes.
  4. Knowledge of Him: This refers to an intimate, experiential knowledge of God. It is more than just intellectual knowledge but involves a personal relationship and communion with Him. The spirit of wisdom and revelation helps believers grow in their knowledge and understanding of God, allowing them to experience Him more fully.

Paul’s prayer highlights the importance of seeking and receiving the Holy Spirit’s work of wisdom and revelation. It is through this spiritual insight and understanding that believers can have a deeper knowledge of God, His will, and His purposes. This knowledge enables them to live in alignment with God’s plans and walk in His wisdom.

FINALLY : TD ASKS AI 

Q. How do the ministry offices (prophet, apostle, teachers, pastor, evangelist) “happen” (how do people get called to these)  in the fellowships and churches?

AI ANSWERS (briefly)

These offices come into the Church through the calling and gifting of individuals by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit equips and anoints individuals to fulfill these roles for the edification, growth, and maturity of the Church. The recognition and affirmation of these offices often come through the discernment of leaders and the confirmation of the community of believers. The Church recognizes those whom the Holy Spirit has gifted and raised up for these specific roles and supports them in carrying out their responsibilities.

TD NOTES THIS as “One more  facet of inviting Jesus into their hearts, then He and they have an  ongoing ‘relationship” coupled with my Bible study, training, prayer and faith and respentance and pursuing God. Finally (for they have the John 16:13 spirit of truth abiding in them) HE CAN COMMUNICATE to them about HIMSELF, THEIR LIFE and their OWN CALL but then need other GOD “SENT” TRUE MINISTERS(2-3 at least)  to cover them in prayer, to look as role models, learn to ask questions and to learn from . 

IT’S ALL OPEN ENDED .so ONLY the most High GOD can fully show YOU about all of this!

MORE TO COME..

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“THE Ai AND I” WE NEED CLEAR SEER FRUIT …PART 1…MY INTRO

 NO ONE MINISTRY GROUP, RACE OR STYLE “OWNS” THE SERVANT LEADER FIRST CHURCH BOOK OF ACTS HOLY SPIRIT DEEP WELLS

THE Ai AND I” WE NEED CLEAR “SEER THEOLOGY PART 1

MY INTRO

SUBTITLED..THE SOOTH AND NOTHING BUT THE SOOTH, SO HELP US, COME LORD JESUS!

John 16:13 KJV “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

SEER 2 Kings 6:12 KJV “And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.”

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John 16:13 KJV “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

SEER 2 Kings 6:12 KJV “And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.”

 

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PASTOR T’S IN SEARCH  OF...DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN BOTH AREA “TRUE ” AND “FALSE’

Taveau will be asking ChatGPT AI for part of the response, but she will also contribute her own well-thought-out senior office apostolic theology. To pastors, Dr. Taveau presents her thoughts as wise “Selah,” not autocratic religious dogma. Her intention is to provoke thought, respectfully correct, and enlighten, at least a few. Where AI is used, rest assured that Taveau is well-versed in the Bible and this seer turf. She carefully monitors each AI response and makes adjustments if needed.

The real reason for using ChatGPT AI is to provide a basic overview of this legalistic and often “spooky,” “elite,” and “witchlike” representation of the subjective yet well-grounded Holy Spirit topic.

 

FIRST CHURCH VIEWPOINT: “The relationship fruit makes or breaks this sort of “deep” “hearing” “sensing” “knowing” “guiding” revelatory” (yet prone to human carnality and misapplication) SEER Ministry

MY MAJOR TEACHING  POINT IN ALL OF THIS SEER SERIES:

GOD’S GREAT GIFTING IS JUST ABOUT and FOR  the most High God, and it is by His grace given freely as a gift. It is not to be conjured up, mind probed, or used for reading minds, being nosy, or engaging in voyeuristic behavior. It is not intended to be an exclusive gift limited to the elite, nor should it be used to manipulate or gain personal advantage. It is not meant to be a spectacle or a source of entertainment. Or draw a cult following (as now is being done…)

 

 

APOSTOLIC PART 1..SEER THEOLOGY..THE STUFF OF AREA LEGEND

(this will basically overview, scratch the big surface, but TD’S more in depth will come after)

 

 

WE EACH NEED THIS FLAGSHIP VERSE:

John 16:13 KJV

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

WE WANT TO GET A BASIC FIRST CHURCH AND OLD TESTAMENT OVERVIEW ALONG WITH SEVERAL DEFINITIONS:

BUT FIRST Taveau’s Seerish autobiography

“POINT” You don’t have to be normal, but you should be natural” T. D’Arcy

HERE TD  discusses her family’s seer-like qualities. However, I prefer a more down-to-earth term for a “prophet,” such as a “perceiver-discerner” who is gifted by God’s grace. This gift is inherent in my DNA, as I come from a long line of Christian believers who have heard from the Lord. Although some of them were not initially baptized in the Holy Spirit, they knew the inner witness of the gentle and calm Holy Spirit. They were grounded in the Word of God, enjoyed good fellowship, and developed emotional maturity over time.

 

IN CONCLUSION we realize some(very many) quite different, all races, families and global backgrounds, yet sincere, perceptive  TYPES of individuals are born with an intuitive proclivity as a perceiver-discerner, as it is a human quality bestowed by God.

 

SAVED AND NON SAVED However, not all who have this gift are “saved,” so it is important to evaluate whether they know this realm. Only then should they invite Christ into their hearts as Savior and Lord and grow in their understanding of the Bible. After establishing a born-again relationship with Christ, God graces them with the Holy Spirit of Truth mentioned in John 16:13. Taveau intends to teach on this topic extensively to address the various levels of need and provide clarity for the general population, aspiring Christians, prophets, mature prayer warriors, and those unaware of their inner DNA gift. God may want to develop and utilize this gift within individuals to serve Him and others.

 

MY MINISTRY EMPATHY : I understand that this may be difficult to process, but I will gradually make it clearer. I approach this topic with calmness because it has been a part of my upbringing, where Christian celebrity was not a focus. Instead, we valued being normal, kind, calm, responsible, and genuine individuals.

 

This BIG SEER THEOLOGY SERIES aims to provide cross-body unity training in the spirit of the Book of Acts. It strives to present the material in a non-spooky, non-showbiz manner, catering to everyday real people.

MORE LATER. ON TD’S MANY FINE POINTS..

 

TD ASKS Ai

Please define the word “Seer “in modern days (Non Christian, Christian)

AI ANSWERS

Non-Christian Seer: In non-Christian or secular contexts, a seer is often considered an individual with the ability to perceive or foresee future events, gain insights into hidden knowledge, or have extrasensory perception. Seers may use various methods such as divination, psychic abilities, or intuitive insights to access information beyond the ordinary senses. They may claim to have visions, dreams, or psychic abilities to provide guidance or predictions about the future.

 

Christian Seer: In Christian contexts, a seer is often understood as an individual who has the spiritual gift of seeing into the spiritual realm or receiving supernatural insights from God. Christian seers are believed to receive visions, dreams, or spiritual impressions that reveal God’s will, offer guidance, or provide understanding of spiritual matters. They may have heightened spiritual perception or receive divine revelations through visual means. Christian seers often operate within the prophetic ministry and may be considered a subset of the broader prophetic gifting.

 

It’s important to note that the understanding and acceptance of seers can vary among different Christian denominations and communities. Some Christians may embrace and acknowledge the seer gifting as a valid expression of the prophetic ministry, while others may have different beliefs or reservations about such practices.

 

Overall, whether in non-Christian or Christian contexts, a seer is generally someone who claims to have the ability to perceive or receive information beyond the ordinary senses, whether through natural or supernatural means.

OLD TESTAMENT SEER IN ACTION: OLD TESTAMENT; PROPHET ELISHA

2 Kings 6:12 KJV “And one of his servants said, None, my lord, O king: but Elisha, the prophet that is in Israel, telleth the king of Israel the words that thou speakest in thy bedchamber.”

PAUSE: I see this as where the “mind reading false, into occult mistaken may feel God entitled to go over into the FALSE new age, psychic, divining “witchcraft” occult spirit (MY POINT in training all of this!)

NEW TESTAMENT (FIRST CHURCH, MODERN NOW

John 16:13 KJV “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

 

TD ASKS AI 

Q. What is the difference between a prophet, seer, soothsayer in light of Old Testament and New
AI RESPONDS BACK

In the context of the Old Testament and New Testament, there are distinctions between the roles of a prophet, a seer, and a soothsayer. Let’s explore their differences:

  1. Prophet: A prophet is an individual chosen by God to receive divine messages and revelations. Prophets serve as intermediaries between God and His people, delivering His word, guidance, and warnings. They are called to speak on behalf of God and to proclaim His will. Prophets often conveyed messages related to repentance, judgment, and the coming of the Messiah. They were an integral part of the religious and spiritual life of Israel.

In the New Testament, the term “prophet” continues to refer to those who have been called by God to speak His word and guide the Christian community. The primary focus of New Testament prophets is on proclaiming the message of Jesus Christ, edifying believers, and building up the Church.

  1. Seer: In the Old Testament, a seer is often mentioned as a specific type of prophet with the ability to see or perceive things beyond the ordinary senses. Seers receive visions, dreams, or supernatural insights from God, which they communicate to others. They have heightened spiritual perception and may be able to discern hidden or future events. Seers often play a crucial role in revealing God’s will and providing guidance to leaders or individuals.

In the New Testament, the term “seer” is not commonly used. However, the spiritual gift of discernment or supernatural perception can be considered a modern-day equivalent of the seer gift. Individuals with this gift have a heightened ability to perceive the spiritual realm, discern spirits, and receive supernatural insights.

  1. Soothsayer: A soothsayer, in contrast to a prophet or a seer, refers to someone who practices divination or fortune-telling using various methods such as interpreting omens, signs, or other occult practices. Soothsayers claimed to predict the future or provide guidance through supernatural or occult means. In the Bible, soothsaying is generally regarded as a form of pagan or forbidden practice, as it involves seeking knowledge or guidance from sources other than God.

Both the Old and New Testaments warn against engaging with soothsayers and practicing divination, as they are considered forms of false or forbidden spiritual guidance.

In summary, prophets are chosen by God to deliver His messages, seers have heightened spiritual perception and receive supernatural insights, while soothsayers engage in forbidden practices seeking guidance from sources other than God. Prophets and seers operate under the guidance of God, while soothsayers are associated with occult practices that are condemned in the Bible.

MY OPINIONS (not Ai until / unless I point that out)

ROOTS OF THE INTUITIVE “PERCEIVER- DISCERNER” HOLY BIBLE SEER GIFT…THE FRUTS OF THE SEER GIFT

  • THE ROOT…. IS THE GUIDING HOLY SPIRIT RELATIONSHIP

John 16:13 KJV

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

(You ought to take time to study JOHN 16:13, bit by bit as it is powerful and has many Bible salvation, receiving the Word from the Lord, and personal direction from the Holy Spirit “inward witness’ which is the ROOT SEER THEOLOGY (more on this ONE VERSE John 16:13 in much depth, another section)

 

  • THE FRUIT REPRODUCED.. OUGHT TO RESEMBLE THE “HOLY GHOST” WISDOM FROM ABOVE means “words” “all messages” “conversations” “reports regarding other persons, ministries”, more as well as the Fruits of the Spirit

James 3:17 KJV   “But the wisdom that is from ABOVE  is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.”

Galatians 5:22-23 KJV From Apostle Paul, “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

CHAT AI PART:

TAVEAU ASKS AI

WHAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IN THE OFFICE PROPHET IN OLD TESTAMENT AND IN NEW

READER TAKE NOTE: This upcoming section is Sister Taveau  asking the Ai  about this..however, she has trained on this often before in depth but for time purposes, will include brief Ai overview (which she has proofed) 

 

TAVEAUS AI TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT DIFFERENCE IN TERMS PROPHET, SEER, SOOTHSAYER: Hebrews 1:1-2, Hebrews 1;9 KJV seer, prophets in old and New Testament

THE AI RESPONDS:

Hebrews 1:1-2 KJV

OLD TESTAMENT OFFICE PROPHET VS NEW TESTAMENT:  “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”

 

NEW TESTAMENT: This passage emphasizes the superiority of Jesus Christ as the final revelation of God. In the past, God spoke to the fathers (ancestors) through the prophets. However, in the present time, God has spoken to us through His Son, Jesus Christ.

 

OLD TESTAMENT ;The mention of prophets in this passage refers to the prophets of the Old Testament. These prophets were chosen and anointed by God to deliver His messages, prophecies, and instructions to the people of Israel. They played a crucial role in conveying God’s will and preparing the way for the coming of the Messiah.

 

PURPOSE The purpose of Hebrews 1:1-2 is to establish the preeminence of Jesus Christ as the ultimate revelation of God. While the prophets of the Old Testament were used by God to communicate His messages, Jesus surpasses them all as the Son of God and the heir of all things. He is not just a messenger but the very embodiment of God’s word.

SEER MENTIONS IN BOTH OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT

Regarding the term “seer,” it is more commonly associated with the Old Testament. A seer was a prophet who had the ability to see or perceive things supernaturally, often through visions or dreams. They had insight into hidden or future events, and their role was closely tied to the prophetic ministry.

 

However, in the New Testament, the term “seer” is not explicitly mentioned. The focus shifts to the fulfillment of prophecy through Jesus Christ. While individuals in the New Testament continue to exercise prophetic gifts and functions, the specific term “seer” is not employed.

 

JESUS JOY: OFFICE PROPHET MESSIAH, PERCEIVER DISCERNER SEER LIKE JESUS HAD JOY Hebrews 1:9 in the King James Version states:

“Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.”

TD Points out that JESUS CHOSE TO LIVE OUT 2 HEART CONDITIONS..  which then allowed   the Holy God to give Him this BIG JOY

JESUS JOY (Ai) This verse refers to Jesus Christ, who is anointed by God with the oil of gladness. It highlights Jesus’ perfect righteousness and His distinction above all others.

In conclusion, Hebrews 1:1-2 emphasizes the superiority of Jesus as the final revelation of God, surpassing the prophets of the Old Testament. While the term “seer” is not specifically mentioned in the New Testament, it refers to individuals in the Old Testament who had the ability to see or perceive things supernaturally. The focus in the New Testament is on Jesus as the fulfillment of prophecy and the ultimate revelation of God.

 

TD HASTENS TO ADD: JESUS CHRIST “who went about doing good, healing all those who were oppressed by the devil “Acts 10:38 was no dour sourpuss oppressive or depressed “poor me” Prophet
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TD ASIDE COMMENT
TD ADDRESSES non servant,  Top senior ministers, it is important to train your groups on the fruit of the seer. This training goes beyond mere accuracy and hitting the target. John 16:13 makes it clear that the Spirit of Truth comes as a free gift through the deposit of the Holy Spirit after one invites Jesus into their hearts as their personal Savior. However, ongoing development, learning, training, and growth are necessary.

Acts 10:28 emphasizes the importance of friendliness in our interactions.

James 3:17 describes the fruits that should be evident in a seer’s life and above on in ministry.

Isaiah 11:2-3 highlights the power, skill, and dunamis of the seer without any involvement in occult practices, invasive scanning, or human ego. Gossip should also be avoided.

Ephesians 5:21 and 4:1-5 stress the importance of relationship and respect for one another.

I John 1:7 encourages friendliness, (community)

 Hebrews 1:9 highlights the joyfulness that should characterize a mature seer.

*** 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (some of these maybe MANY or ALL of these) “please make a list from this an train AGAINST resembling that as the gossip, rivarly, envy and deep insecurity, jealous ambition is RIFE”)

WE NEED REAL AT THIS PRESENT MOMENT: For It is essential for mature believers to avoid the old-timey Levitical approach of being overly critical and nitpicking others, labeling them as false prophets, false teachers, whores, Jezebels, witches, or warlocks. Instead, let us embrace a more loving and understanding perspective.

By training on these principles and Scriptures, we can cultivate a fruitful and healthy seer ministry that aligns with God’s purposes and reflects the character of Christ.

TD ASKS AI

Isaiah 11:2-3 KJV describes office prophet seer quality Messiah. Please discuss 

Ai RESPONDS:

Isaiah 11:2-3 in the King James Version describes the qualities and characteristics of the Messiah, who is the anointed one and the fulfillment of God’s promises. These verses mention specific qualities that will rest upon Him:

“And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears.”

These verses highlight the anointing and empowering of the Holy Spirit upon the Messiah. They describe the qualities and attributes that will characterize His ministry and rule. Let’s explore how these qualities align with the roles of an office prophet and a seer:

  1. Spirit of the Lord: The Messiah will have the Spirit of the Lord resting upon Him. This signifies His close relationship with God and the authority given to Him by God.
  2. Spirit of wisdom and understanding: The Messiah will possess divine wisdom and understanding. He will have insight into the deep truths and purposes of God and will be able to discern and comprehend situations with divine perspective.
  3. Spirit of counsel and might: The Messiah will be endowed with divine counsel and strength. He will provide wise guidance and have the power to execute God’s plans and purposes.
  4. Spirit of knowledge and fear of the Lord: The Messiah will have a profound knowledge of God and a reverential fear of Him. He will walk in obedience to God’s commandments and have a deep respect and awe for the holiness and authority of God.

These qualities reflect the anointed nature of the Messiah’s ministry and align with the roles of an office prophet and a seer. Prophets, including the Messiah, are anointed by God to receive divine revelation and deliver God’s messages. Seers, on the other hand, have heightened spiritual perception and receive supernatural insights. The Messiah’s ability to discern and understand situations with quick understanding aligns with the seer gift.

In Isaiah 11:2-3, these qualities are described as resting upon the Messiah, highlighting His divine anointing and authority. The Messiah’s role as a prophet and seer goes beyond the conventional understanding of these offices, as He is the ultimate fulfillment of God’s plan for redemption and salvation.


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JUST HAVE AN OPEN HEART

“TO GIVE” IN WHATEVER …TIMING… OR FASHION…

IN  GOD’S  “HOW” “WHEN” +  “WHERE!” 

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Matthew 6:3-4″But when you give to the poor and do acts of kindness, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing [give in complete secrecy], so that your charitable acts will be done in secret; and your Father who sees [what is done] in secret will reward you.

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“THE AI AND I” THE DISCERNMENT OF CHRISTIAN WHITE PEOPLE (EXTRA LONG)

WAS JESUS CHRIST WHITE? WHERE DID THE LIGHTER CAUSCASiAN RACE ORIGINATE?
WHAT IS THE TERM “PATRIARCHY”… IN LIFE AND IN THE TRUE CHRISTIAN MINISTRY?


MEANING….IN LIGHT JESUS SACRIFICE ..ON  THE OLD WOODEN CROSS:
PAUL Ephesians 2:14-15 “He is our peace, who has broken down every wall of partition to make us both one” 

Billy Graham “The Symbol of the Cross “the Big “I” ( human ego, ID)  crossed completely out”

PAUL Galatians 2:20″I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.”

 

 

“THE Ai And I” THE DISCERNMENT OF CHRISTIAN WHITE PEOPLE 

.AND AFTER  EACH ONE WAS A TWINKLE IN GOD’S ETERNAL CREATOR’S EYE..

Q. Where did they EACH come from??

TD ASKS AI GPT  ORIGINS OF CAUCASIAN RACE?

“OF COLONIALS and You COLONIZERS”

Also WHAT IS “THE PATRIARCHY?”

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PURPOSE

In light of the defragging ministry law and racism, I invite AI to help deliver the “roots” of the Caucasian race.. also determine means of colonial, colonizer, the patriarchy, in life and in Christian ministry.  To determine, yet to avoid accusation ..and to spare MANY who are pure yet with “White Skin’ from being targeted by the now existring NEW Racism

“If” we are TRUE  to ourselves and to all others, in ministry and in Life, we each  need to ‘evaluate “to see if THERE IS TRUTH in some of that, much of that Christian accusation.

Additionally, I seek personal growth in developing a deep understanding that ALL humans are created “equal” and should be viewed as “worthy of respect” by each born-again Christian leader. I teach EORR (Equally Opportunity, REAL RESPECT for the Office of Every Human Made in God’s Image “

Furthermore, I emphasize that there are no stereotypes. Instead, we should regard each individual “human person” as a potential “real relationship.”(be the adult, youth child, each race, size)

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TO GET A GRIP ON TYPECASTING AND MAKING STEREOTYPES

REASONS FOR DEMEANING STEREOTYPES…It is targeting behavior, use to control and to objectify, vilify, dehumanize so as to form ‘classes” of people..for the purpose of denying that “that TYPE ” is “less than” “we,ourselves”

WHY ? that makes it easier to seem them as LESS THAN ”  “IT”s (subhumans)..so that our minds and consciences are not bothered (So, it’s a sign of SELFISHNESS.in a group or person, persons)*
* Least case “to avoid, be troubled by and deny them “relationship”
*Worst case “as they are not “human’ we can enslave them, Big Boss murder them, rob them, beat them down and repeatedly USE THEM (get even with) for our own SELFISH purposes

THUS, TRUE CHRISTIAN..It is crucial to view each  “person” as unique and different from any other. All of these unique individuals come with their own experiences, whether they are great, terrific, or even horrible. Therefore, it is important to give each person a dose of Jesus Christ’s safe and authentic respect as a priority, even if you say nothing more.

 

Also, begin to view each person as “exceedingly different” from any other one and value each one of these like God would, how they are unique but with a different backstory (again, every individual: adult, child, youth). And while some have great, even major terrific backstories, many, if not most, do not. In fact, in light of these days, I would urge caution, for many who stand before you or walk in the door have passed through something (or someone) which has been truly HORRIBLE.

 

So, give each one respect, not necessarily leader words, but I would say “first and foremost,” “give them” a dose of Jesus Christ’s safe authentic respect (even if you say nothing more!).

 

Again, I advise busy, set-in-place experienced or older ministry members to try to learn to see each person first as a human being, not a thing, an object, or a historical ministry traditional type. Rather, regard each person as a valuable human who is handcrafted, tailor-made by God, with each formed in God’s image (Psalm 139).

 

Ministry value: See them as a human, real person first, then, after doing that, process each by their age, race, skin color, etc.

 

The goal is that each ministry, leader, staff, elder, and lay person respects and values all others as “equals,” even peers, until proven otherwise!

TD ASKS AI ABOUT WHAT THE TERM “PATRIARCHY” IN REAL LIFE AND IN CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP:
I want to clearly define:
Q. What is the standard meaning of “the patriarchy/matriarchy”?
Q. Are all white, dark men patriarchs?
Q. Are all leader men “the patriarchy”?
T’S INQUIRING MIND DESERVES TO OBJECTIVELY KNOW..
AI RESPONDS:
The patriarchy refers to a social system or structure in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege, and control over resources. It is a system of gender inequality that is deeply rooted in many societies around the world. The term patriarchy is often used to describe the ways in which power and privilege are unequally distributed between men and women, resulting in the oppression and marginalization of women.
Patriarchy operates on both individual and systemic levels. On an individual level, patriarchal attitudes and beliefs perpetuate gender stereotypes and reinforce the idea that men are superior to women. On a systemic level, patriarchal structures and institutions, such as laws, economic systems, and cultural norms, uphold and enforce male dominance.
Patriarchs, on the other hand, refers to individual men who hold positions of power and authority within a patriarchal system. Patriarchs can be seen as the embodiment of the patriarchal ideals and often benefit from the privileges and advantages that come with their social position. They may exert control over others, particularly women, and influence decision-making processes in various domains.
It’s important to note that the concept of patriarchy does not imply that all men are oppressive or that women are completely powerless. Rather, it highlights the ways in which societal structures and norms systematically disadvantage women and reinforce gender inequalities. Recognizing and challenging patriarchal systems is a crucial step toward achieving gender equality.
YET…TO BE SURE TO BE VERY CAREFUL TAVEAU ASKS AI:
Q. Do you mean that ALL all men “The Patriarchy? All leader women “the matriarchy?…SHE NOTES: I realize this because my gentleman kind Christian father was NOT like patriarch NOR of that is described as “The Patriarchy”
AI RESPONDS:
No, not all men are “The Patriarchy,” and not all women in leadership positions represent “the matriarchy.” The terms “patriarchy” and “matriarchy” refer to social systems and structures rather than individual identities.
The patriarchy is a broader social system that encompasses cultural, institutional, and systemic factors that perpetuate gender inequality and male dominance. It is not limited to the actions or beliefs of individual men. While men, as a group, may benefit from patriarchal systems, it doesn’t mean that all men individually uphold or actively contribute to the patriarchy. Many men may actively work against gender inequality and support gender equality.
Similarly, the term “matriarchy” refers to a social system where women hold primary power and predominate in roles of leadership. However, matriarchal systems are relatively rare, and most societies have been historically patriarchal.
It’s important to remember that individuals can deviate from societal norms and expectations. Your father’s behavior may have been different from what is commonly associated with the patriarchy, which is positive. However, the existence of individuals who do not conform to patriarchal values does not negate the existence or impact of the patriarchal system as a whole.
Understanding the patriarchy and working towards gender equality involves recognizing and addressing systemic issues rather than solely focusing on individual behaviors.
TD ASKS
Q. Are all races guilty of having the systemic patriarchy /matriarchy?
AI REPLIES:

The existence of systemic patriarchy or matriarchy is not limited to any specific race or ethnicity. Different societies and cultures across various races can exhibit patriarchal or matriarchal structures to varying degrees. Patriarchy and matriarchy are social systems that can be found globally, although their manifestations may differ based on cultural contexts.

It is important to recognize that patriarchal or matriarchal systems are not inherent characteristics of any particular race. Rather, they are social constructs shaped by historical, cultural, and socio-political factors. While some societies may exhibit stronger patriarchal or matriarchal tendencies, it is essential to approach the analysis of power dynamics and gender inequalities with nuance and understanding of specific contexts.

It is also important to note that within any given society, there can be individuals who challenge or work against patriarchal or matriarchal systems, promoting gender equality and advocating for change. Recognizing and addressing systemic gender inequalities requires collective efforts and the involvement of people from all races and backgrounds.

TD INTERJECTS:
This apostle TD has historically, always. purposely stated, “We must form no stereotypes by gender, race, age, or class. God has handcrafted each and every human person as ‘unique’ and ‘valuable’ and one He loves…and has called for His purpose.”
There, I, TD, want to use the words “patriarch” or “matriarch” as positive and meaning (over here) any race of man or woman who bears the following fruit: an anchored disposition for a family, tribe, or ministry. This fruit is usually stable, dependable, mature, responsible, gives sound wise advice, and is usually a sure, reliable breadwinner…seems proven.
HER PERSONAL NOTE:
All of this “big mostly LP’ “white patriarchy”  study has come about because God “Sent me” to study the USA Christian ministry flows and kinds..all races and all types. Hence I can determine “who” and “which ones” are NOT respectful to 1. T new visitors 2. All races 3. have big gender biased 4 might be class-conscious 5. or demonic and hence this person who is fair, non biased and is usually 250 % of the time respected equally by (servant leader types??) of men, off all races, sizes and cultures had NEVER ONCE ever in her life, EVER met up with “THIS “(Levitical Patriarchism and is authoritarian dowager L Matriarchism..who are the PATRIARCHY in the church ,mostly Patrichian , red state and white colonial
Dr. T has had a terrible time in (certain, non diverse “special” parts) of mean Christian ministry “only with” the (white Red State Colonial Levitical Ministry), as in LP patriarchy and L matriarchy who are big bosses and do not play fair. Beginning shortly after Taveau was ‘sent’ purposely by the (non-white) Lord to study USA prophetic,which was and mostly “Caucasian” that where Pastor T had never once had any issue with any men or women, suddenly she recognized that she appeared to “trigger ” their biased major stereotype.
(Discovered since 1990s when SENT to study Western European heritage, PROPHETIC which in hindsight was also LP Patriarchian, non servant high called ministry)
And she has likened this to being “racially profiled” simply for attending, sitting there calmly, abiding in mature, calm approachable fruit which models 300% of each and every time..James 3:17 (which Dr T still does each and every moment of the day). Hence, this “targeting ministry white discovery ” helps her to “understand” how many dark skinned, plus atypical also certain NON “patriarchal whites’ also get disrespected, targeted and devalued in life , mean business and in Christian prophetic (?) all male patriarchy/matriachy ministry.
ASSESSING “FRUIT CHECKERS” USE …MATURE FYI James 3:17 states “the wisdom from above is pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruit ,without partiality and without hypocrisy”
However, every ironical Dr. T has only had the utmost respect and joyful, pleasant ministry and very many personal, business, and professional experiences with men of all colors, all sizes, all ages of quality Christian, non-Christian, even biased against religious…all races!! Men…
So, nothing against men, just the fruit of what is the “anti-woman, anti-Blacks, religious bias, most turf-protecting, sell-their-souls-for-what-they-want” fruit. Seems to be a red state quiet patriarchy. “WE (LP) “ARE” THE “ONLY ALLOWED” (ELITE) GOVERNING, RULING WORLD” (This INCLUDES the similar in Patrichian Big Boss Ministry)

AFTER THE LONG TERM LP STUDIES and how I noted that  my patient, approachable, NOT A Boys will be Boys but a One Man Woman..Not a religoius legalistic Patriarch, this apostle person pondered and sorted out the Caucasian male, female  pure fruit and also noted the RISE in media of ANTI WHITE BIAS due to Skin Color..(appearance) Then the 2016 made it worse. SO being a Futuristic Thinker, I evaluated “WHAT I HAD ENDURED by certain ‘whites’ with the EORR MAJORITY NOT LIKE THAT

ONCE MORE…REASONS FOR ALL OF THIS ….to TRAIN and to WARN THE HIGH AND MIGHTY WELP COLONIALS I break it down to DISCERNING BASED ON LOVE, PURE FRUIT

THE NEW TERMS ARE WE CENTRIC and  WE GLOBAL

WE stands for Western European deep ancetry (Caucasian ,whose deep origins I ask AI about below) and these are also CAUCASIANS from “Eastern Europe” but I have never had ANY desrespect from these who are decidedly MORE GLOBAL (such as this myself)

SO TO “DISCERN BETWEEN THE KINDS OF ” WHITE SKINNED PERSONS..for clarification and to dimish accusation, and Christian LP Bias.  (also to warn the COLONIALS to be a LOT MORE CAREFUL for the Cause of Christ and themselves in SOCIETY) So I am not accusing but studying FRUIT

MY TAVEAU D’ARCY CROSS BODY UNITY ” TRAINING “WORDS

BASICALLY THE 2 STYLES OF CAUCASIANS:(Western European, Eastern European)

  • WE CENTRIC (Colonials, used to having the governing power and authority in settled nations, ministry ,business, governing OVER Life) Love governing higharchy, may be “patriarchian” which is “Roman Rule governed by the 80 “big boss” “authoritarian ” territorial ruling, aristocratic.. slave owning, prefer controlling, structure, elite fierce, attacking controlling, often mean PATRIARCHIANS (Google wikipedia)
  • WE GLOBAL (TD is a We Global) usually prefer less structure; Dr T sees this, WE “Western European” however NOT NEEDING TO CONTROL, TO “BE OVER  YOU AND ME” and NOT EXPECTING YOU TO BE “UNDER” THE MIGHTY GIFTED “WE ARE AWESOME RULING COLONIAL)..so many if not most are servant leader, diverse, can flexible but much more ready to handle “all races, all appearances, all vibes, classes, genders and also to respect and find eventual commonality with all types of true (non mean) People” “more divinely flexible” and not so strict about “appearances” 
  • NOTE:Admittedly, this is subjective, And it’s up to YOU and ME to discern and to decide WHO we fellowhip with..however,  we are taking time to address MEAN basic differences in Caucasians, but most of this can apply to ALL Races.but this topic should be address to discern the WHITE PEOPLE.

TD”S MINI VISION MCKINNEY ,TX DFW 2016

“for the Ministry Body  of Christ”

“TELL THEM….. THAT I’M A LOT
“BROWNER” THAN THEY THINK I AM “

(whereupon which I laughed, understanding that God surely must LOVE and ENJOY dark skinned people seeing how he’s made SO MANY HOW MANY all around GLOBE!) So now we need to get the CHURCH self examing and working on PAUL “He is our peace who has broken down every wall of partition to make us all “ONE” and to each submit to Jesus as He warned  many of us Matthew 6:15 “But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.”

 

ALSO TO PUT THIS OUT FOR REMOVING THE CRITICAL OT ADVERSARIAL CRITICAL LAW IN MINSTRY..for God’s End Time  Harvest NOT ALL WHITE Move..

AND feel free to network share this with other teachers:

TD COMMENTS TO THE READER

FOND DUE PURPOSE “Christian Non Biased Melting Pot” (because of HIM!”)

For it seems that ALL  Caucasians are being accused of a lot of evil, and I myself am having a tough time in ministry with (ONLY ) the white WELP individuals (despite not being one, but resembling a one)

Note: Following 30 years of up-close Christian ministry, study, I finally determined that this giant ministry is “patrician,” and “we are used to owning and ruling the world.” They are not what I would call light-skinned, white Caucasian people who are not prone to be rhythmic, not often deeply diverse, and more likely to be big bosses, part of a boys’ club, authoritarian, and used to being in top dog governmental chief control.

 

I look like these individuals and have a strain of colonial heritage coming down from my mother’s side. However, I noticed back when I was young, prior to college, and as a follower of Jesus, I told myself I wanted “no part” of that. I am generally a servant leader, which is the type of leadership I align with. Right before I left for college at around 18, my mother tried to tell me our “family history” (meaning her version of our pedigree), but I did not want to know or fill my ears with it. I did not feel it was a Christ-like thing to place any part of my calling or identity in. Frankly, the only thing I recall is that her father, Augustus Taveau Simons, came from French Huguenot origins in South Carolina, and they were tied to Taveau Church, a historical landmark in Cordeville, Moncks Corner, SC (which I have yet to visit). It was used by slaves, and I can see my own multicultural love possibly coming down from there.

 

Also, know that while my deep South pastor father was “white,” upon reflection, I find him not bearing any fruit of colonial mentality (which I equate with being a big boss, controlling). I recall him as sincerely diverse, with no religious spirit that respects persons, not a dominator or slave driver. However, my mother, being from the deep South, would at times bark chief orders and act like a slave master, ordering us about. Her mother and sister were not like that, but as a child, I never got to know her big business father. Nevertheless, they were all Christians, and I had to forgive my own totalitarian World War 2 ruling matriarch (well-meaning) but nonbiased and loving, my dear mom.

 

I suppose it was my mother who caused me to really detect if a big boss controller is targeting me. But it also caused me to be very careful not to behave like that, especially with regards to men and ministry and not overstepping the boundaries and authority of this office.

 

My dear mother, who is now with the Lord, was a living, abiding example of a genteel Bible-believing, steel-willed “my way or the highway” individual. However, she was bright, super loving, and mischievous. Surely, she was only a well-intentioned slave-owning matriarch.

 

So, she hastens to add, I came away from that being very careful and sensitive to others and their boundaries.

Also, being raised by a big boss with control has often left me confused and hesitant, with a fear of overstepping my own leader boundaries. Yet, down the dysfunctional big boss DFW ministry, I found myself and what I now call “the needed drill sergeant.” This is business tough only if and when you are withstood by a Christian ministry tough customer.

 

And I believe that this has made me into the ministry leader that I am today. I am not a big boss, and in a way, I take after my father. He was low-key, quality, subtle, sharp, happy, sincere, and mischievous—a servant leader who was a calm, abiding friend to all. I strive to model his down-to-earth, friendly, equal opportunity, real respect (EORR) approach, rather than being a slave master or a big boss

DISCERNING YOUR WHITE SKINNED SUBGROUPS

THE WE CENTRIC “CAUCASIAN”.

“We-Centric” refers to being centered around the idea of a more localized, self reflecting, attracting similar not diverse styles of rather set ,set place human persons. Not the energy or vibe of anything but a Caucasian WE CENTERED governing global. community. Most of these by now, want to be viewed as diverse, but they still do not fully grasp the concept or they would more free spirited and genuinely welcome ALL types, styles and vibes of common ordinary everyday walk in pople..And again, the top leader ‘want’ is not open to all, fully, it has much work left to do in many levels. (maybe not the top LP leader but their elders, staff. loyal faith filled “one subculture ONLY “our Preferred Style” “ways”) .

 

THE WE GLOBAL “CAUCASIAN” far more diverse

 

On the other hand, my term “We Global” are more ecclectic, liek a Holy Spirit led vine not a System or a rules based, even hierarchal “staid and “ordered” Be Submittd UNTO US type of Ministry structure..so there is a different energy and openess (down to earth, childlike, accepting, playful, with joy) to th WE GLOBAL kind ofdiverse, again which is mostly servant leader..and may be ‘swarm” ministry not as staid and hierarchal.

 

I, TD, am a “we-global” who would never (ever) presume or assume that God has put me over everybody else like the we-centric pure colonials. So, that is why we are careful to show respect and make sure everyone is comfortable. If they feel they are not a good fit, we are fine with that and seek to refer them to another fellowship where they might fit a lot better.

 

Hence, this is about pure community, not club membership, as it is not the first church apostle Paul’s intention to own, corral, or slave drive God’s people.

 

So, I take a different, more relational, free-style approach. Let everyone try to hear for themselves. Selah, not an autocratic dogma. This approach represents Caucasians who are open to all kinds, styles, vibes, and races of ethnicities. They are open-minded, agreeable, and embrace diversity. Many Hispanics resonate with me, as I seem to have an inborn rhythm (music Fiesta Tropicale, syncopated and multicultural beat) as well as a “Holy Spirit Party Animal” joyous side. View it as an immediate, spontaneous celebratory nature that dark-skinned humans appreciate.

 

MEANING ….FOR THE SAKE OF THE FUTURE CHURCH AND TO ASSIST WE CENTRIC COLONISTS NOT GET BAD LABELING (urge them, you to Quickly Shed YOUR evil eye methods)

Therefore, it is important to study white-skinned individuals:

1) to address the issues with the mentioned individuals and equip to defrag all racism, the respect of persons cult spirit

2) to spread the idea and term of a “we-global” (more energized, more diverse and accepting of all persons. (we global is mostly fair-skinned person yet one who is not(from the way deep inside) a puritan colonialist or overseer enslaving  Big Boss but rather the minister is diverse and does not seek to rule or govern everyone else.

TD ASKS AI
Q. what was Jesus ethnicity? Apostle Paul??
JESUS AND CHRIST’S RACIAL ROOTS (certainly NOT White Fair Skinned)

The ethnicity of Jesus and the Apostle Paul has been a subject of scholarly debate and interpretation. It is important to note that both Jesus and Paul lived in a different historical and cultural context than our modern understanding of race and ethnicity.

Based on their geographical location and the historical context, it is generally accepted that Jesus, as a native of the region known as Judea in the first century, would have had Middle Eastern ancestry. He is often depicted with a Semitic appearance, reflecting the predominant ethnic background of the region.

As for the Apostle Paul, he was also a Jew from the region of Tarsus, which is located in modern-day Turkey. Paul’s ethnicity would have been primarily Jewish, which is also of Semitic origin.

It is crucial to remember that discussions about the ethnicity of biblical figures should focus on understanding their cultural and historical context rather than imposing modern racial classifications on them. The emphasis of their teachings lies in their spiritual and theological message rather than their physical appearance or racial identity.

Initially, TD asked the following to the Chat AI:

TD INQUIRES:

Q. Basically, in the origins of white-skinned humans, where did they first originate, and how did many of them become what is now referred to as WASP, colonials, and colonizers?

Q. As a sub-question, many readers might relate to this subculture question: Were they all mean and slave owners? This is a test for the readers, so we will take our time to dig into all of it

Q. HOT ON OUR LIST TO ASK “The word COLONIAL, were any COLONIALS in history besides White (to be open and fair)

DR T ASKS AI
I want to know ..Q. what causes “WHITE SKIN from the first persons who originated in AFRICA. How did that happen?

 

Ai REPLIES
. The evolution of lighter skin pigmentation in human populations is a result of genetic adaptations to different environments and levels of ultraviolet (UV) radiation.

To provide a more specific answer to your question, the emergence of lighter skin pigmentation in human populations can be traced back to genetic mutations that occurred over tens of thousands of years. The earliest Homo sapiens, who originated in Africa, had dark skin as a natural adaptation to the high levels of UV radiation found near the equator.

As humans migrated to regions with lower UV radiation levels, such as northern latitudes, lighter skin became advantageous. Lighter skin allows for increased synthesis of vitamin D in areas with less sunlight, which is important for calcium absorption and bone health.

The specific genetic mutation responsible for lighter skin pigmentation is known as a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) in the SLC24A5 gene. This mutation affects the production of melanin, the pigment that gives color to the skin, hair, and eyes. The presence of this mutation is more common in populations of European and some parts of West Asian descent.

It is important to understand that the development of lighter skin pigmentation was a gradual process that occurred over thousands of years and involved multiple genetic factors. The genetic variations that determine skin color are complex and influenced by a combination of evolutionary, genetic, and environmental factors.

TD ASKS AI:
Define the word Caucasian

AI REPLIES
The term “Caucasian” has been historically used to refer to people belonging to the so-called “Caucasoid” racial classification. This classification is based on outdated and scientifically discredited racial theories that attempted to categorize humans into distinct races.

 

In this context, “Caucasian” was initially used to describe people from Europe, the Caucasus region (which includes parts of modern-day Russia, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan), and some populations from Western Asia. It was primarily used to differentiate these populations from other racial categories, such as Mongoloid (East Asian) and Negroid (African).

 

However, it is crucial to note that the concept of race, including the classification of people into distinct racial groups, has been widely criticized by scientists and is considered a social construct rather than a biological reality. Genetic studies have shown that human populations are diverse and interconnected, with significant genetic variation existing within and across populations.

 

In contemporary usage, the term “Caucasian” is often avoided or regarded as outdated in academic and scientific contexts. It is recognized that the concept of race has no biological basis and can perpetuate stereotypes and inequality.

 

It is important to approach discussions about human diversity and ancestry with sensitivity and understanding, acknowledging the complexities and interconnectedness of our shared human history.

TD INTERJECTS... there are a lot WESTERN EUROPEANS but also EASTERN EUROPEANS who are ‘white’

TD ASKS AI
Define the words: white race , colonial, wasp, colonizer

 

Ai Answers
The term “white race” is a social construct that has been historically used to categorize people with lighter skin color, often including individuals of European descent. However, it’s important to note that race is not a scientifically valid concept but rather a cultural and historical construct.

 

“Colonial” and “colonizer” refer to the process and individuals involved in establishing colonies, which typically involves the migration and settlement of people from one region or country to another, often with the intention of economic exploitation or political control. European colonialism, in particular, refers to the historical period during which European powers, such as Britain, France, Spain, Portugal, and others, colonized various parts of the world, including Africa, the Americas, Asia, and Oceania.

 

“WASP” stands for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and is a term used primarily in the United States to refer to individuals who are white, of English or British descent, and Protestant. It has been used historically to describe the dominant cultural, social, and political group in American society.

 

These terms are often discussed in the context of power dynamics, social structures, and historical legacies, particularly regarding the impact of colonialism on indigenous populations, the exploitation of resources, and the perpetuation of inequality. It is important to approach these discussions with sensitivity, recognizing the diverse perspectives and experiences involved.

UPCOMING. Are there any COLONIALS , COLONIZERS in history who came from anywhere else besides “Caucasian” WESTERN EUROPE …

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Q. I am trying to uproot “colonialism” as I deal with multicultural Christian ministry..”Was there any NON white-skinned colonialism as I am curious but also need to be fair’

Ai ANSWERS:

Yes, there have been instances of colonialism throughout history that involved non-white populations as the colonizers.

While the term “colonialism” is often associated with European powers during the era of European colonial expansion, it is important to recognize that colonialism has taken various forms and occurred in different regions of the world.

Here are a few examples of non-white colonialism:

Ancient Egyptian Empire: The ancient Egyptians expanded their influence and controlled territories beyond their borders, including parts of Nubia (present-day Sudan) and Canaan (present-day Israel and Palestine).

They established administrative control over these regions and exerted their cultural and political influence.

Mongol Empire: The Mongol Empire, under the leadership of Genghis Khan and his successors, was one of the largest empires in history. The Mongols conquered and established control over vast territories, including parts of Asia, Europe, and the Middle East. Their empire had a significant impact on the regions they conquered.

Arab and Ottoman Empires: The Arab and Ottoman Empires, based in the Middle East, expanded their territories and established control over various regions through military conquests and political alliances. They exerted their influence over parts of Africa, Asia, and Europe.

Japanese Empire: In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, Japan pursued an imperialist agenda, expanding its influence and acquiring territories in East Asia and the Pacific. This included the colonization of Taiwan, Korea, parts of China, and various islands in the Pacific.

These are just a few examples, and there have been other instances of non-white populations engaging in colonialist practices throughout history. It’s essential to acknowledge that colonialism is a complex and multifaceted phenomenon that has occurred across different cultures and regions.

By studying and understanding the diverse historical experiences of colonialism, we can strive for a more comprehensive and nuanced perspective that goes beyond a single narrative. This understanding can contribute to efforts to address the lasting impacts of colonialism and promote fairness and justice in contemporary multicultural societies.

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